USSR invades Ukraine. (42 Viewers)
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skybluetony176
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You also didn’t say she was. Someone had to bring balance to the discussion. You’re welcome.
fernandopartridge
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Do you understand balance Tony? Is that like voting UKIP to offset the threat of UKIP?
skybluetony176
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You’re thinking of voting brexit to punish big corporations. How did that work out by the way? I’ll check my notes. You crashed the pound inflating big corporations overseas profits sending their share values through the roof. No, that didn’t work. Maybe you voted brexit to empower the hard left. How did that work out? I’ll check my notes again. It says brexit converted them to hard right smashing the red wall and giving Boris Johnson a record majority so he could fuck you over with your blessing.
You’re not to good at this balance thing yourself.
Grendel
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Tony attempting to patronise posters is as credible as the Mcanns giving a lecture on good child care
David O'Day
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Don't feed the trolls
fernandopartridge
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You really don't understand the argument
skybluetony176
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What argument are you talking about? All I did was fill in your gap that this woman is a nut job herself, which she is. You couldn’t counter that so went off on a tangent which given your own history of what you thought you were voting for against what it turned out to be and your “reasoning” for doing so in the first place is a glass house of an argument for you. What I said in both cases is factually correct.
skybluetony176
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If these tanks are as effective as believed to be this could be a game changer. Especially if Russia really is sending 1950’s era tanks to the front lines. It should be shooting fish in a barrel.
Ukraine war: Germany sends much-awaited Leopard tanks
The first 18 of the cutting-edge tanks are sent, amid reports UK Challenger 2s have also arrived.
www.bbc.co.uk
If these tanks are as effective as believed to be this could be a game changer. Especially if Russia really is sending 1950’s era tanks to the front lines. It should be shooting fish in a barrel.
Ukraine war: Germany sends much-awaited Leopard tanks
The first 18 of the cutting-edge tanks are sent, amid reports UK Challenger 2s have also arrived.www.bbc.co.uk
Any tank is better than no tank, and those T55s can still cause damage if used properly. You'd imagine they'll be used as dug in defensive weapons.
But given Russia's tactics so far they'll probably send them out in assault, which will not end well. And yeah they got annihilated by modern tanks in Iraq.
skybluetony176
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Dmitry Muratov: Nuclear warning from Russia's Nobel-winning journalist
Dmitry Muratov says Russian propaganda is preparing people to think nuclear war isn't a bad thing.
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Well that's cheerful.Dmitry Muratov: Nuclear warning from Russia's Nobel-winning journalist
Dmitry Muratov says Russian propaganda is preparing people to think nuclear war isn't a bad thing.
fernandopartridge
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Dmitry Muratov: Nuclear warning from Russia's Nobel-winning journalist
Dmitry Muratov says Russian propaganda is preparing people to think nuclear war isn't a bad thing.
Boomers all over the world causing utter fucking chaos really
Flying Fokker
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Boomer by name…Boomer by nature. And if I may say, STFU.
skybluetony176
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Undoubtedly will be used by the Russian propaganda machine. "We said NATO were looking to put more troops closer to our border. They have. NATO cannot be trusted. We can".
Same as they'll use the likes of Finland joining as NATO were always looking to expand.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Someone should have told Finland not to bother as Putin clearly won’t invade any other non NATO members on his doorstep.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Especially those glow-in-the-dark varieties.
covhead1
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Hmm novichok, it's a Russian speciali-tea
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Have you got some notes ?
Flying Fokker
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A couple of weeks old but interesting article regarding masses of Russian tanks.
In my view:
1. There is of course the probability that Ukraine has just as many anti-tank weapons without putting their tanks in harms way.
2. The range/ effectiveness of the guns of ‘big tanks’ such as the Leopard may prove to be effective.
3. Russia is likely to use their tanks ‘dug in’ and used as artillery rather than field.
www.express.co.uk
In my view:
1. There is of course the probability that Ukraine has just as many anti-tank weapons without putting their tanks in harms way.
2. The range/ effectiveness of the guns of ‘big tanks’ such as the Leopard may prove to be effective.
3. Russia is likely to use their tanks ‘dug in’ and used as artillery rather than field.
Make no mistake huge numbers of Russian tanks will terrorise Ukraine
There has been a general chortling in the commentariat over news that the Russians are now apparently transporting obsolete tanks to the Ukraine war zone.
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Flying Fokker
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duffer
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A couple of weeks old but interesting article regarding masses of Russian tanks.
In my view:
1. There is of course the probability that Ukraine has just as many anti-tank weapons without putting their tanks in harms way.
2. The range/ effectiveness of the guns of ‘big tanks’ such as the Leopard may prove to be effective.
3. Russia is likely to use their tanks ‘dug in’ and used as artillery rather than field.
Make no mistake huge numbers of Russian tanks will terrorise Ukraine
There has been a general chortling in the commentariat over news that the Russians are now apparently transporting obsolete tanks to the Ukraine war zone.
I did wonder about this idea of old tanks as artillery, turns out it's not a brilliant idea, but if you're scraping the bottom of the barrel it's a possible option. (TLDR: Nowhere near as good as proper artillery, but they will at least survive for a bit, unlike in combat against modern tanks!).
Russia’s Ancient T-55 Tanks Could Double As Artillery. But Not Very Good Artillery.
A T-55 is a poor substitute for a purpose-built howitzer, which might fire twice as far as the tank can do, more accurately, faster and for longer.
www.forbes.com
tisza
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Issue with the article is that frequently reported that Russia don't have the "bells and whistles" mentioned to upgrade these tanks or even repair damaged modern ones. The high Tec bits were made from parts from the likes of Germany and France. Sanctions cut that supply route.A couple of weeks old but interesting article regarding masses of Russian tanks.
In my view:
1. There is of course the probability that Ukraine has just as many anti-tank weapons without putting their tanks in harms way.
2. The range/ effectiveness of the guns of ‘big tanks’ such as the Leopard may prove to be effective.
3. Russia is likely to use their tanks ‘dug in’ and used as artillery rather than field.
Make no mistake huge numbers of Russian tanks will terrorise Ukraine
There has been a general chortling in the commentariat over news that the Russians are now apparently transporting obsolete tanks to the Ukraine war zone.
Flying Fokker
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Fucking bastards. Yes you are right. Still out there. This Wagner group is not an army of strength. Wicked, just wicked. Putin and his Satanist West. Shoot to kill Russians but not resort to their enemies appalling actions. It just increases resolve to fight to the last man.
skybluetony176
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Bloody hell.
"A Russian fighter jet fired a missile at a manned British surveillance aircraft flying over the Black Sea in September but the munition malfunctioned, according to U.S. defense officials and a recently leaked classified U.S. intelligence report. The incident was far more serious than originally portrayed and could have amounted to an act of war."
www.nytimes.com
"A Russian fighter jet fired a missile at a manned British surveillance aircraft flying over the Black Sea in September but the munition malfunctioned, according to U.S. defense officials and a recently leaked classified U.S. intelligence report. The incident was far more serious than originally portrayed and could have amounted to an act of war."
Miscommunication Nearly Led to Russian Jet Shooting Down British Spy Plane, U.S. Officials Say (Published 2023)
Recently leaked intelligence documents called the incident, last year, a near shoot down. Officials said it was more serious than originally reported.
skybluetony176
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This is why there’s no point engaging in piece talks with Russian. They’ll ultimately mean nothing
Vladimir Kara-Murza: Russian opposition figure jailed for 25 years
Vladimir Kara-Murza says the harsh sentence shows he is "doing everything right".
www.bbc.co.uk