Sunderland crowd.. (5 Viewers)

Brylowes

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What is our capacity atm, I don’t mean the registered stadium capacity of 33.000ish, I mean the actual amount of seats available to purchase capacity ?
Once you deduct the ‘No man’s land’ in the South stand and the empty balcony in the main stand, what is left, no more than 28.000 I wouldn’t have thought and 4000 of those are allocated for away fans.
Its always difficult to sell-out to capacity (24,000 for Cov fans ) as when it gets near capacity you end up with a load of single seats and seats in areas people don’t particularly want to sit, so we struggle to sell them.
So we up about 2000 under capacity.
If the club were to open all areas giving fans more choice and the opportunity to sit with their mates, families etc I honestly think we’d be seeing gates now 26.000 to 30.00.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Got to admit have meet many Sunderland fans while on holiday.
I have the same 2 weeks off every year and it corresponds with their fortnight off.
Most say we are cheats believing we are the only reason they are shit most delusional fans out there living in the shadow of Newcastle.
Twice we have played them live on the telly while I was on holiday first time they sent a 7 year old to my table to taught me and my son who was about 5 himself a bar full of them and just us two City fans.
We won 2-0 think the second goal was a penalty (cheated again) first game of the season early 2000s
Should have seen the bar as we were the only 2 cheering bar a couple of Newcastle fans what a great day that was.

Loved it hated them ever since, horrible horrible fans.


Yeah and the Leicester fans are just as bad, we should know !!! 😉🤫
 

Gynnsthetonic

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What is our capacity atm, I don’t mean the registered stadium capacity of 33.000ish, I mean the actual amount of seats available to purchase capacity ?
Once you deduct the ‘No man’s land’ in the South stand and the empty balcony in the main stand, what is left, no more than 28.000 I wouldn’t have thought and 4000 of those are allocated for away fans.
Its always difficult to sell-out to capacity (24,000 for Cov fans ) as when it gets near capacity you end up with a load of single seats and seats in areas people don’t particularly want to sit, so we struggle to sell them.
So we up about 2000 under capacity.
If the club were to open all areas giving fans more choice and the opportunity to sit with their mates, families etc I honestly think we’d be seeing gates now 26.000 to 30.00.
Yes agree, they should open up all of the North Stand now, people will hold off as they don't want to sit front row right in the corner which is all that's available with 2 or more together
 

Grendel

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Hull are an extreme example the other way. They are under priced in general - They do not actually have season tickets in name but a monthly membership scheme - its undervaluing its product
 

Legia Sky Blue

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Somethin's gone mad in the world when we are trying to charge kids of working class parents £25 a ticket so we can pay players £20,000 a week to reach the promised land of paying players £50,000 a week with even higher ticket prices.

I empathise with that viewpoint, but what do you expect to happen if we do meet the 'promised land'?
 

theferret

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What is our capacity atm, I don’t mean the registered stadium capacity of 33.000ish, I mean the actual amount of seats available to purchase capacity ?
Once you deduct the ‘No man’s land’ in the South stand and the empty balcony in the main stand, what is left, no more than 28.000 I wouldn’t have thought and 4000 of those are allocated for away fans.
Its always difficult to sell-out to capacity (24,000 for Cov fans ) as when it gets near capacity you end up with a load of single seats and seats in areas people don’t particularly want to sit, so we struggle to sell them.
So we up about 2000 under capacity.
If the club were to open all areas giving fans more choice and the opportunity to sit with their mates, families etc I honestly think we’d be seeing gates now 26.000 to 30.00.

The current capacity is 30,000, as we achieved at the last but one league game.

The last paragraph I don't get, you think 4000 people are refusing to go because they haven't opened block 27, despite there being availability all round the ground?
 

theferret

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Hull are an extreme example the other way. They are under priced in general - They do not actually have season tickets in name but a monthly membership scheme - its undervaluing its product

There is a happy medium I think. The WBA pricing is spot on.
 

croatskyblue

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Are you suggesting it is? So we're trying to suppress crowds by pricing people out because the higher pricing obviously reduces gates. That's one batshit conspiracy..
You’ve been coming out with inaccurate statements & exaggerations all day- “11,000 left for sale” and so on.

Your position is clear, you think pricing is too high. Only time will tell on that, I think you may well be right, but you don’t have to use all these exaggerations to try and bulldoze the point home.
 

Brylowes

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The current capacity is 30,000, as we achieved at the last but one league game.

The last paragraph I don't get, you think 4000 people are refusing to go because they haven't opened block 27, despite there being availability all round the ground?
The capacity can’t be 30.00 there’s a no man’s land full of seats probably 3000 to 4000, there’s a balcony full of seats probably 1500, so that’s 4500 to 5000 seats that aren’t available to purchase, which would make our capacity around 28000.
Of course people will be put off buying tickets if the look online and see a sprinkling of single seats available, people like to attend with mates, family etc and I doubt there’s many that go on their own.
I could understand leaving areas closed when we were attracting crowds of 10 to 15000 but we’re now attracting crowds around 25000 so why not make every seat available 🤔 what does the club achieve by not doing so.
 

SkyBlue80

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Am I right in thinking that I can upgrade one of the kids' season tickets to an adult ticket for the day. Do I just do this on the day at the ticket office?
 

hamertime

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The capacity can’t be 30.00 there’s a no man’s land full of seats probably 3000 to 4000, there’s a balcony full of seats probably 1500, so that’s 4500 to 5000 seats that aren’t available to purchase, which would make our capacity around 28000.
Of course people will be put off buying tickets if the look online and see a sprinkling of single seats available, people like to attend with mates, family etc and I doubt there’s many that go on their own.
I could understand leaving areas closed when we were attracting crowds of 10 to 15000 but we’re now attracting crowds around 25000 so why not make every seat available 🤔 what does the club achieve by not doing so.
I genuinely just think they are that stupid.
 

SkyblueDad

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The capacity can’t be 30.00 there’s a no man’s land full of seats probably 3000 to 4000, there’s a balcony full of seats probably 1500, so that’s 4500 to 5000 seats that aren’t available to purchase, which would make our capacity around 28000.
Of course people will be put off buying tickets if the look online and see a sprinkling of single seats available, people like to attend with mates, family etc and I doubt there’s many that go on their own.
I could understand leaving areas closed when we were attracting crowds of 10 to 15000 but we’re now attracting crowds around 25000 so why not make every seat available 🤔 what does the club achieve by not doing so.
The North Stand no-mans land definitely needs looking at, watched the Spurs/Man Utd match at the weekend historically not the friendliest fixture and the no-mans land was about 6 seats and a line of stewards.
 

pusbccfc

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pusbccfc

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I understand what you’re saying, honestly I do. I’m playing devils advocate slightly.

I just find it hilarious that people think 22k home fans is poor

It is, these days. Home crowds are well up since covid.

Our crowds were only shit due to being the worst club in England to support. Our PL crowds of the 90 were comparable to the likes of Leicester and Southampton who consistently get 30k+ now.

The rise to an average of 20-22k is not really that impressive for a city of our size.
 

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