Match Thread vs Cardiff (A) 19/09/23 (27 Viewers)
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Brighton Sky Blue
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If he continues playing poorly but also keeps being picked then squad morale will sink further.
fernandopartridge
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Nice one, get down the Black Chicken and forget about it
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fernandopartridge
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Pace, ability to turn sharply, intelligent running. He'd suit us playing a breakaway style which makes this attempt to play slow passing football seem all the more bizarre
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Brighton Sky Blue
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As is Robins saying that’s not how he wants us to play despite Godden saying that this was the new approach
Not having a someone lined up to replace Gus was criminal, we are only ever an injury away from Kelly being near the starting line up.
Multiple times Godden found space in between the two cbs and we missed it everytime. Although Haji cant control a simple pass i do think he made some intelligent runs which again were being missed by the midfield or they would see the runs but instead pass it straight to a cardiff player.
On a more positive note, i thought simms looked up for it when he came on. Great work by him leading up to the 2nd goal. Ayari wasnt afraid to run at them and looked dangerous and great to see Allen back on the pitch.
Multiple times Godden found space in between the two cbs and we missed it everytime. Although Haji cant control a simple pass i do think he made some intelligent runs which again were being missed by the midfield or they would see the runs but instead pass it straight to a cardiff player.
On a more positive note, i thought simms looked up for it when he came on. Great work by him leading up to the 2nd goal. Ayari wasnt afraid to run at them and looked dangerous and great to see Allen back on the pitch.
clint van damme
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That was a very worrying performance.
And while the focus is on the deficiencies in midfield and attack let's not forget we were abject defensively.
And while the focus is on the deficiencies in midfield and attack let's not forget we were abject defensively.
clint van damme
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We're an injury to Kelly or Eccles away from having no-one to play there!,
Ccfcisparks
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His crosses into the box were fantastic yesterday, if Gyokeres was upfront he would have been all over them.
BlueSkiesForever
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Wright certainly can run, I don’t doubt his physical pace and I’m sure that he’s stronger than he showed but he did look dreadful last night. Although tbf to Wright he has shown bits and pieces in other games where he’s held the ball up well or run through well, we just have to hope there’s still a decent player in him.
My concern is that when you look back at the Leicester game, every single player on that pitch looked miles better than what we did last night, we’ve somehow regressed massively since the start of the season. The chance that Wright created for himself in that Leicester game was sensational, he obviously didn’t score but what he conjured up there was brilliant. I’m sure the ability is there it’s just that something has gone wrong along the way, and that applies for the whole team.
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shmmeee
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Keeper wasn’t great either.
jordan210
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Kelly & Eccles can't/Dont make the key balls that guy used to make. Not having someone who can tread a ball behind is killing us.
I dont want to dell on Gus as he has gone. But when he dropped deep to collect a ball he would then push forward. Kelly and Eccles tend to stay deep.
I dont want to dell on Gus as he has gone. But when he dropped deep to collect a ball he would then push forward. Kelly and Eccles tend to stay deep.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Need Ayari playing deeper in that case. Though he again needs time to bed in
shmmeee
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Might as well have a moveable wall in midfield as Liam Kelly when we’re in possession. But Eccles is supposed to be more than that and he can’t pass more than five yards either. With Hamer and Sheaf gone we’ve lost all long, quick, clever passing from the midfield. 19 and 8st wet or not that’s why I’d put Ayari in there.
Evo1883
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Hasn't been all season , feels like any shot of note against him is going in
Skyblueweeman
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It makes me angry that Gus left things to the last minute with his contract and decided not to sign it. Sheff Utd played a good game with the transfer.
By the same token, I'm surprised we didn't have a potential replacement lined up, 'should' Gus go. Maybe there just wasn't one that MR fancied to come in and do the job?
Regardless, it's clear we miss him and with an influx of new players who are all talented (I still think the majority will be classed as successful signings), it seems we've not settled on a good formation/system/style of playing that best covers the hole left by Hamer.
We need to get it sorted soon...whilst we're technically ahead of where we were last season and only two defeats in 8 looks ok on paper, we need to start picking up points. MR will have favour with the majority of the fan base - who knows how patient DK will be.
Hopefully we bounce back from this one the way we did vs Luton a couple of seasons ago when we were hammered 5-0 at KR. We beat Fulham 4-1 after that and I think only lost about 2 in 10.
By the same token, I'm surprised we didn't have a potential replacement lined up, 'should' Gus go. Maybe there just wasn't one that MR fancied to come in and do the job?
Regardless, it's clear we miss him and with an influx of new players who are all talented (I still think the majority will be classed as successful signings), it seems we've not settled on a good formation/system/style of playing that best covers the hole left by Hamer.
We need to get it sorted soon...whilst we're technically ahead of where we were last season and only two defeats in 8 looks ok on paper, we need to start picking up points. MR will have favour with the majority of the fan base - who knows how patient DK will be.
Hopefully we bounce back from this one the way we did vs Luton a couple of seasons ago when we were hammered 5-0 at KR. We beat Fulham 4-1 after that and I think only lost about 2 in 10.
Evo1883
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You're amazing
shmmeee
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But again the new signing didn’t look any better. He’s barely mentioned but you’ve really got to question keeping Moore and bringing Collins in. I’d rather have spent £7.7m there!
BlueSkiesForever
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Absolutely, they just don’t offer anything in almost any direction. Eccles has got away with people sticking up for him because he’s put in the odd decent cross or decent corner here and there but for 90 mins, consistently, game after game after game, he’s just not up to it in my view.
Just the thought of Kelly and Eccles playing together drains any excitement out of my body
Imagine if someone said to you before the start of the season, with all this transfer hype, that we’d be playing Eccles and Kelly in midfield for a fair few games this season, you’d be pretty appalled, and yet that’s the situation we’re in because for whatever reason we didn’t manage to get a decent midfielder in the team, it’s horrendous tbh.SkyBlueMatt
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shmmeee
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We needed a Gus backup well before we needed a Gus replacement. Really no excuse.
fernandopartridge
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In fairness to Kelly and Eccles they rarely had an option for a forward pass, wing backs too deep and Palmer hiding
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Skyblueweeman
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We did ok when he was suspended didn't we?
bigfatronssba
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The biggest concern for me was the performance.
So far this season we’ve shown at least some promise in every game, and that we just needed to click and we’d be fine.
Last night however we looked awful.
I can’t help but think this new possession style is all wrong for us. We don’t have the players to do it and it’s incredibly boring to watch.
So far this season we’ve shown at least some promise in every game, and that we just needed to click and we’d be fine.
Last night however we looked awful.
I can’t help but think this new possession style is all wrong for us. We don’t have the players to do it and it’s incredibly boring to watch.
shmmeee
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How would they know? Neither of them ever look up, and why would they? Neither of them can make the pass anyway.
shmmeee
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At the start of last season?
jordan210
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But they wont drive forward or take players on. What Is what palmer also should be doing.
bigfatronssba
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Hamer is being used as an excuse.
There were plenty of games last year where he was having an off day and we still got a result.
And even going back two years where we were play off contenders for most of the season, of the “big 3” at the time, most fans would’ve seen Hamer sold over O’Hare
There were plenty of games last year where he was having an off day and we still got a result.
And even going back two years where we were play off contenders for most of the season, of the “big 3” at the time, most fans would’ve seen Hamer sold over O’Hare
shmmeee
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Not me. But we also had Vik, and a defence that knew each others names.
clint van damme
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Absolutely, they just don’t offer anything in almost any direction. Eccles has got away with people sticking up for him because he’s put in the odd decent cross or decent corner here and there but for 90 mins, consistently, game after game after game, he’s just not up to it in my view.
Just the thought of Kelly and Eccles playing together drains any excitement out of my body
We'd get away with having Kelly and Eccles if we still had Hamer, or a player who could carry the ball and use it effectively in the oppositions half.
We need Sheaf and O'Hare back ASAP and even then O'Hare is surely going to need time to get up to speed.
Until then we can't afford any more injuries and we need Robins to work some magic.
I've defended Palmer but he's was shocking last night, contributed nothing.
BlueSkiesForever
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Yeah tbf for once I agree with you completely, if we had Hamer it would be massively different, and the same view on Palmer, I’ve been defending him so far this season but the last 2 performances from him have been completely indefensible. He’s got to be dropped next game.
Brighton Sky Blue
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In the short term you pair Kelly with Ayari and tell the wing backs to press up so he can play it either through the middle or the flanks. And for fuck’s sake stop bringing everyone back for corners!
BlueSkiesForever
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Don’t forget the bit about losing the ball after every tap tap tap, highly important step in our strategy atm!