USSR invades Ukraine. (29 Viewers)

[PVA]

"if every Ukrainian dies in that decade it’s mission accomplished"

As for this shit... Good grief.

 

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[Grendel]

It's not lazy.

You clearly don't understand what a counter-offensive is or how this one is going.

I'll ask again, do you think it is failing/has failed?

It will carry on for years. Again you are focussing on the US led propaganda which wants this war to carry on - it doesn’t want the war to end - it wants the Russian perceived enemy to engage in this trench war fare for a decade if it has its won

This is Classic United States imperialism - it’s not even subtle

 

[Grendel]

"if every Ukrainian dies in that decade it’s mission accomplished"

As for this shit... Good grief.

If the US withdrew all support what would happen?

 

[PVA]

If the US withdrew all support what would happen?

You throw a party.

 

[Grendel]

You throw a party.

What would happen?

 

[PVA]

What would happen?

As I say, you have a big party to celebrate Russia's victory.

 

[Grendel]

As I say, you have a big party to celebrate Russia's victory.

Ah so now we are getting somewhere. So is the US support because it cares about Ukraine?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Ah so now we are getting somewhere. So is the US support because it cares about Ukraine?

Obviously not. But that isn’t a groundbreaking point.

What’s weird is you not minding a Putin land grab on the continent. Not that it’s a sincere view of course.

 

[PVA]

You're on Russia's side. We get it.

 

[Grendel]

Obviously not. But that isn’t a groundbreaking point.

What’s weird is you not minding a Putin land grab on the continent. Not that it’s a sincere view of course.

Did you care in 2014?

 

[Grendel]

You're on Russia's side. We get it.

No im not but I don’t see why we are sucked into an expensive programme purely because the US think it’s an excellent way of using up their perceived enemies military and political arsenal - however many lives it costs

 

[PVA]

Obviously not. But that isn’t a groundbreaking point.

What’s weird is you not minding a Putin land grab on the continent. Not that it’s a sincere view of course.

It's only fair he grabs a piece. He was provoked after all.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Did you care in 2014?

…yes?

 

[Grendel]

It's only fair he grabs a piece. He was provoked after all.

But why do you as an individual actually care unless you’ve been influenced?

 

[Grendel]

…yes?

What did you do?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What did you do?

What would you have me do? Go over and fight?

 

[PVA]

No im not but I don’t see why we are sucked into an expensive programme purely because the US think it’s an excellent way of using up their perceived enemies military and political arsenal - however many lives it costs

So you'd rather all support is withdrawn (because it's expensive) and just let Russia help themselves to an entire nation.

OK.

 

[Grendel]

And via the back door....

Breakingviews - EU will go easy on Indian resale of Russian fuel

Western pledges to prevent the circumvention of anti-Russian sanctions risk falling flat in India. Fuelled by cheap imports from Moscow, the Asian country’s yearly oil products sales to Europe have surged over 70% to $15 billion in the past year, according to data from the Indian Ministry of...

www.reuters.com

Now this poster is a true socialist - one of only a couple on here - yet this post was ignored @PVA and @Brighton Sky Blue - read it and give a view

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Now this poster is a true socialist - one of only a couple on here - yet this post was ignored @PVA and @Brighton Sky Blue - read it and give a view

What has this got to do with you supporting a Russian victory?

 

[PVA]

Now this poster is a true socialist - one of only a couple on here - yet this post was ignored @PVA and @Brighton Sky Blue - read it and give a view

Ah shit, you're right.

The EU are the bad guys in all this.

 

[Grendel]

What has this got to do with you supporting a Russian victory?

I don’t support any victory. I think he’s a highly intelligent poster on this and I want your view - answer it

 

[Grendel]

Ah shit, you're right.

The EU are the bad guys in all this.

Wow - that’s such an intelligent response

See you in two years when it still drags on

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don’t support any victory. I think he’s a highly intelligent poster on this and I want your view - answer it

You laughed at the idea that Russia should completely withdraw and pay reparations?

 

[PVA]

Wow - that’s such an intelligent response

See you in two years when it still drags on

It's the response you deserve.

You were asked if the counter offensive is failing and you responsed with:

- USA is happy for every single Ukrainian to die
- Ukraine would lose if US support was withdrawn
- Went back 4 months to find a story saying the EU is indirectly buying Russian fuel


None of which are relevant. Just constantly moving the goalposts and putting over your weird pro Russian agenda.

 

[Grendel]

You laughed at the idea that Russia should completely withdraw and pay reparations?

Because they won’t - it’s odd people are so invested in a country which is equally racist homophobic and transphobic- it’s a vile place - just don’t know why we care

 

[Grendel]

It's the response you deserve.

You were asked if the counter offensive is failing and you responsed with:

- USA is happy for every single Ukrainian to die
- Ukraine would lose if US support was withdrawn
- Went back 4 months to find a story saying the EU is indirectly buying Russian fuel


None of which are relevant. Just constantly moving the goalposts and putting over your weird pro Russian agenda.

Can you respond to @jimmyhillsfanclub post please

cheers

 

[Grendel]

Anyway neither of you are answering so I’ll leave you to it

 

[PVA]

Can you respond to @jimmyhillsfanclub post please

cheers

Yes like I said, you've convinced me the EU are actually the bad guys.

Now can you answer whether you think the counter offensive is failing/has failed?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Because they won’t - it’s odd people are so invested in a country which is equally racist homophobic and transphobic- it’s a vile place - just don’t why we care

Saying they should isn’t saying they will. It’s not really about a passion for Ukraine, but it is about a serious amount of land and resources that would be absorbed by a hostile state. Not to mention the very serious possibility of mass war crimes.

It undermines the security of the rest of the continent.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Can you respond to @jimmyhillsfanclub post please

cheers

Nothing to say besides I don’t support India undermining the sanctions nor would I support the EU going light on it either. Not that this is of any great shock

 

[Grendel]

As I said I’ll leave you two armchair generals to jerk each other off

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

As I said I’ll leave you two armchair generals to jerk each other off

What? For thinking maybe it's not a good idea to allow Putin to take a country off the map?

 

[PVA]

As I said I’ll leave you two armchair generals to jerk each other off

Refuse to answer questions aimed at you then flounce off in a huff because no one answers your questions the way you want

 

[Grendel]

The USA likes this.
The EU likes this.

Indeed

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

No im not but I don’t see why we are sucked into an expensive programme purely because the US think it’s an excellent way of using up their perceived enemies military and political arsenal - however many lives it costs

Because if we leave it for Putin to crack on it gets way more expensive later on.

Wasn't he going to stop after getting Crimea?