Israel - Palestinian Conflict (13 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

Won't, Israel have been preparing years for this shit, plus they didn't just mobilise 300k people and have took in another 200k volunteers for nothing.

You suggesting they're aggressors?

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[Otis]

These have to be some of the worst opinions displayed on the forum, all to deathly silence.

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Some of us can't be arsed to argue, maybe?

I know I try and keep out of stuff for the most part these days. Life's too short.

Trying to make the most of every day I have on this planet.

5 years ago, I would have been all over this thread.

Sometimes I think stuff can be misguided. But I am getting too tired to argue and I am sure many feel the same.

As has been said by just about every single poster on here. The attacks the other day were barbaric and horrific and truly awful.

We just can't pretend that Israel is the good guy here.

And Hamas isn't Palestine and Palestine isn't Hamas.

I always loved the Irish people, but couldn't stand the IRA and hated them with an absolute passion.

I don't know enough about Zionism to comment to be honest and I am sure for the last 3 or 4 days, people on here have been Googling like mad to try and learn more, whilst trying to appear to be experts.

I just find the whole situation awful and a total shit show without end. This is an awful escalation, but this conflict and impasse has being going over there now for decade after decade.

 

[shmmeee]

Wow that's a pretty extreme view to say the least , it does exist , and it will continue to exist .

There is no way Jewish people can live peacefully in that region ever is there .. let's not make out its only Jewish people islamists have a problem with

Probably not. Which leaves three options:

- Carry on as we are
- Move the Jews somewhere else
- Move all the Muslims in the Middle East somewhere else.

None of which are particularly viable options and all of which leave at least one large religious group upset for the foreseeable if they even went along with it peacefully.

Pretending there’s some simple moral answer here is ludicrous.

 

[Evo1883]

Probably not. Which leaves three options:

- Carry on as we are
- Move the Jews somewhere else
- Move all the Muslims in the Middle East somewhere else.

None of which are particularly viable options and all of which leave at least one large religious group upset for the foreseeable if they even went along with it peacefully.

Pretending there’s some simple moral answer here is ludicrous.

I think we all know there is no agreement to be had

 

[shmmeee]

I think we all know there is no agreement to be had

Child deaths all round then. Lovely stuff

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Its now been stated that Egypt warned Israel 3 days prior to the attack.
Bearing in mind the political instability in Israel in the months prior they surely wouldnt have allowed the attack to unify the public would they?

Feasible

 

[Evo1883]

And Israel have a very powerful military (air force , special forces ) its the reason they still sit in the middle of hatred

 

[clint van damme]

Probably not. Which leaves three options:

- Carry on as we are
- Move the Jews somewhere else
- Move all the Muslims in the Middle East somewhere else.

None of which are particularly viable options and all of which leave at least one large religious group upset for the foreseeable if they even went along with it peacefully.

Pretending there’s some simple moral answer here is ludicrous.

Palestine will be gone, spot the trend, its only ending one way.

 

[TomRad85]

Some of us can't be arsed to argue, maybe?

I know I try and keep out of stuff for the most part these days. Life's too short.

Trying to make the most of every day I have on this planet.

5 years ago, I would have been all over this thread.

Sometimes I think stuff can be misguided. But I am getting too tired to argue and I am sure many feel the same.

As has been said by just about every single poster on here. The attacks the other day were barbaric and horrific and truly awful.

We just can't pretend that Israel is the good guy here.

And Hamas isn't Palestine and Palestine isn't Hamas.

I always loved the Irish people, but couldn't stand the IRA and hated them with an absolute passion.

I don't know enough about Zionism to comment to be honest and I am sure for the last 3 or 4 days, people on here have been Googling like mad to try and learn more, whilst trying to appear to be experts.

I just find the whole situation awful and a total shit show without end. This is an awful escalation, but this conflict and impasse has being going over there now for decade after decade.

Yeh must be that, a bunch of people that spend days on end arguing politics suddenly can't be arsed when the incredibly strong anti Jewish stuff enters the thread. Convenient really.

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[Evo1883]

Yeh must be that, a bunch of people that spend days on end arguing politics suddenly can't be arsed when the incredibly strong anti Jewish stuff enters the thread. Convenient really.

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It's a view held by many but said by hardly any .. that's the truth

 

[shmmeee]

Absolutely world class. No notes.

 

[Evo1883]

Absolutely world class. No notes.

Not even deleted it 🫣

 

[Fysnkysc]

You suggesting they're aggressors?

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No I'm suggesting that there won't be an invasion with that much active personal.

 

[Evo1883]

Hamas are the same as young silly americans that support trump , belters on twitter

 

[shmmeee]

Palestine will be gone, spot the trend, its only ending one way.

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It’s going to end with the ethnic cleansing of a people isn’t it really? And lots of lots of deaths in the mean time. And then all the local hangers on will take up the mantel in the name of their religion.

All so depressing.

 

[Fysnkysc]

Why do you think it’s okay to generalize all Muslims as terrorists? “A few bad apples ruins it for the others” doesn’t make sense in this case, you’re just islamophobic m8. Fair enough if you don’t believe in religion but don’t go around parading as if it’s fact

Where am I generalising them? The fact is clearly that majority of extremism acts in todays world is carried out by one main group of believers, or am I wrong?

 

[Fysnkysc]

Hamas are the same as young silly americans that support trump , belters on twitter

Twitter turned into shit. Just a Russian propaganda machine now.

 

[clint van damme]

Yeh must be that, a bunch of people that spend days on end arguing politics suddenly can't be arsed when the incredibly strong anti Jewish stuff enters the thread. Convenient really.

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I was arguing with him earlier, not sure you've expressed any concern about the fate of a million under 15 year old been held in an open-air prison without food and water. The clown whose posts you were like g certainly didn't so probably best not getting on your high horse

 

[Fysnkysc]

It’s going to end with the ethnic cleansing of a people isn’t it really? And lots of lots of deaths in the mean time. And then all the local hangers on will take up the mantel in the name of their religion.

All so depressing.

I believe Egypt will open up the borders fully so those that want to flee can, and if they don't flee then they know what's coming.

 

[Evo1883]

It’s going to end with the ethnic cleansing of a people isn’t it really? And lots of lots of deaths in the mean time. And then all the local hangers on will take up the mantel in the name of their religion.

All so depressing.

Surprised any of it is still Palestine at all after Israel took the whole lot in 1967 after they all decided to invade them

 

[clint van damme]

It’s going to end with the ethnic cleansing of a people isn’t it really? And lots of lots of deaths in the mean time. And then all the local hangers on will take up the mantel in the name of their religion.

All so depressing.

Yeah, and people who claim to be humane and on the right side history are cheering it on, it's depressing.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Good god just close this down - imagine by some miracle some media outlet saw what’s being written on here - it’s swastika Nazi ideology

Well they didn't when Coventrian was calling for people to shoot holes in immigrant boats coming across the Channel. Tea + Busquets is posting some weird stuff though that's cutting it fine.

 

[Otis]

Yeh must be that, a bunch of people that spend days on end arguing politics suddenly can't be arsed when the incredibly strong anti Jewish stuff enters the thread. Convenient really.

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I don't think it's anti Jewish stuff though is it. It's anti Israeli government stuff. The stance of successive Israeli governments.

Think it's only Tea and Busquets that has talked about Zionism. I don't believe for a single second that he is anti Jew though.

I too am in the camp that all organised religion is utterly ridiculous and fantastical.

Hamas are known as terrorists. That doesn't make Palestinians terrorists and I think the Israeli government are a truly awful regime, but that doesn't make all Jews bad.

I think it's a very tricky subject and there's no straightforward answer. It's not like saying "I'm a Conservative supporter" or "I'm a Labour supporter" is it

This is a very, complicated and volatile situation over there. As si many have said, there is no real answer is there.

So easy to have a standpoint on other political stuff, i.e. "I'm a socialist", "I'm a capitalist" etc.

I hate to see indiscriminate killing. It's happening now on both sides. Hasn't it already been said, half the population of the Gaza strip are children?

 

[Otis]

Absolutely world class. No notes.

Who the hell is that?

 

[Evo1883]

Who the hell is that?

She's American which will absolutely shock the life out of you I'm sure otis

 

[shmmeee]

Who the hell is that?

Some absolute no name. But the excuses I’ve seen on both sides aren’t much better.

 

[clint van damme]

Some absolute no name. But the excuses I’ve seen on both sides aren’t much better.

Welcome yo social media.
It's rotten.

 

[Otis]

Welcome yo social media.
It's rotten.

I steer well clear of Twitter (X).

Bad enough on Facebook.
I am moving to Folkestone and joined a residents group to see what's what and there's far too many "sink the boats/stop the boats", "they're all rapists and criminals" and "they come over here and get everything while we get nothing" stuff going on.

SM is a cesspit

 

[clint van damme]

I steer well clear of Twitter (X).

Bad enough on Facebook.
I am moving to Folkestone and joined a residents group to see what's what and there's far too many "sink the boats/stop the boats", "they're all rapists and criminals" and "they come over here and get everything while we get nothing" stuff going on.

SM is a cesspit

I actually find Twitter quite good but it's been as big a cesspit as I've seen it since the Hamas attacks.
I want to keep abrest of what's going on but some of it is such partisan propaganda it's hard to disseminate the truth.

 

[Ian1779]

It's a view held by many but said by hardly any .. that's the truth

Judaism is a religion
Israel is a country

It’s basic shit like that people shouldn’t be mixing together.

You can be highly critical of the country of Israel and the actions of its leadership whilst being fully respectful of Judaism.

 

[Evo1883]

Judaism is a religion
Israel is a country

It’s basic shit like that people shouldn’t be mixing together.

You can be highly critical of the country of Israel and the actions of its leadership whilst being fully respectful of Judaism.

You can but the problem is people are not , that's a fact already proven on this thread

And puff your chest out with such conviction when people criticise the behaviours and actions of people within the religion of Islam... grrr

Once again , Hamas are terrorists , full stop

 

[shmmeee]

I believe Egypt will open up the borders fully so those that want to flee can, and if they don't flee then they know what's coming.

I don’t think they will. And hasn’t Israel said they’ll bomb anything that comes across the border? (Genuine question it’s so hard to know what’s confirmed right noe

 

[Ian1779]

You can but the problem is people are not , that's a fact already proven on this thread

And puff your chest out with such conviction when people criticise the behaviours and actions of people within the religion of Islam... grrr

There may be the odd example of that, but it’s not widespread in this thread as implied by some posters.

 

[shmmeee]

You can but the problem is people are not , that's a fact already proven on this thread

And puff your chest out with such conviction when people criticise the behaviours and actions of people within the religion of Islam... grrr

Who has said Jewish people? Genuinely missed that but not read the whole thread cos it got tedious at points.

 

[Evo1883]

Who has said Jewish people? Genuinely missed that but not read the whole thread cos it got tedious at points.

A few remarks very close to the bone , which several posters have alluded to , not far back