Israel - Palestinian Conflict (30 Viewers)

Grendel

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Will Mr Starmer remove the Whip? Let’s see.

 

Grendel

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Jess Phillips has quit - every cloud..
 

Grendel

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Given the demographic of her constituency it’s not that much of a surprise. Question is did she do it out of having any morals, or just to keep her seat?

Two more have resigned
 

Grendel

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Up to 8 now
 

Grendel

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Nobody is losing the whip. He never said they were.

Clearly it was a joke as 55 labour MPs would now be independent
 

CCFCSteve

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Mate….. you’ve got Theresa Coffey on your side, I’m barely sure she’s even a real person. 😉

I don’t like to pick sides Ian. That’s the ex Heath secretary I’ll have you know ! Still a peak appointment in the past shambolic 12 months or so
 

Ian1779

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I don’t like to pick sides Ian. That’s the ex Heath secretary I’ll have you know ! Still a peak appointment in the past shambolic 12 months or so
An oxymoronic appointment if there was one to show how much the Tories think of the NHS and healthcare on general…..
 
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Evo1883

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You do have ro question why the British government want war to continue in the middle east ? And you also have to question the morals of our government who are still showing us all that they do whatever America tells them to.

I can't actually believe people are still backing this

It's simply gone too far and Israel have committed crimes we'd expect any 3rd world dictator the answer for
 

Evo1883

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I'm not sure in my lifetime , I will be able to take Western leaders seriously again about war , and that includes the Ukraine war ..

They're all just crooks and liars .. we definitely back the wrong horses
 

Sick Boy

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I'm not sure in my lifetime , I will be able to take Western leaders seriously again about war , and that includes the Ukraine war ..

They're all just crooks and liars .. we definitely back the wrong horses
Said it before but all this plays into Putin’s hands with other world leaders.
 

skybluetony176

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I find myself reminded tonight of how blindly the Conservatives followed Blair’s dressed up dossier on WMD in Iraq that took us into an illegal war. They stood on the wrong side of history. I remember Robin Cooks speech, I remember Charles Kennedy leading a march, MP’s standing up on what in reality are very basic principles that put them on the right side of history. I’m glad there was a Labour rebellion, hopefully it will be a wake up call to Starmer before he gets into power. Not a good day for British politics.
 

Sick Boy

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If I was Sunak I’d consider calling a GE sooner rather than later - at this rate Starmer will manage to fuck it up.
 

PVA

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If I was Sunak I’d consider calling a GE sooner rather than later - at this rate Starmer will manage to fuck it up.

The Tories would get obliterated if they called a GE now.

And Starmer may have fucked many things up, but this vote isn't one of them.
 

David O'Day

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The Tories would get obliterated if they called a GE now.

And Starmer may have fucked many things up, but this vote isn't one of them.
Pretty much only winner is the snp, but it's slightly better than I thought.

This won't move the dial much if at all

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PVA

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Pretty much only winner is the snp, but it's slightly better than I thought.

This won't move the dial much if at all

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Yes exactly. It's a bunch of no marks that no one has heard of plus Jess Phillips leaving the front bench of the opposition. Over what is let's be honest a totally meaningless vote. Unless anyone thinks Israel and Hamas are going to honour the results of a SNP motion? 🤷🏻‍♂️

It's not going to move the polls. No one will be talking about it in a day or two when the Tories inevitably shit themselves again any minute now.
 

David O'Day

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Yes exactly. It's a bunch of no marks that no one has heard of plus Jess Phillips leaving the front bench of the opposition. Over what is let's be honest a totally meaningless motion. Unless anyone thinks Israel and Hamas are going to honour the results of a SNP motion? 🤷🏻‍♂️

It's not going to move the polls.
That's the point, it's political games to trip someone up.

Old Benny isn't going to say "Fuck the SNP motion has passed, withdraw the troops".

I like Phillips but she is very marmite and a lot of people don't like here.

Still the next GE will be fought on economics and the general tiredness people have with the government (that includes the SNP in Scotland) and it won't be fought until the very last minute,
 

PVA

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That's the point, it's political games to trip someone up.

Old Benny isn't going to say "Fuck the SNP motion has passed, withdraw the troops".

Yeah exactly

Meanwhile Jezza is on telly refusing to call a terrorist organisation a terrorist organisation and people can't work out why Starmer is 20 points ahead and Corbyn got his arse handed to him
 

fernandopartridge

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Yeah exactly

Meanwhile Jezza is on telly refusing to call a terrorist organisation a terrorist organisation and people can't work out why Starmer is 20 points ahead and Corbyn got his arse handed to him
Do you think Labour would have won in 2019 under Starmer's leadership? With everything else being as it was?

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