Grendel
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Because it was making progress. Then it stopped.
Like the Kharkiv offensive was making progress. Then it stopped.
Lol
Because it was making progress. Then it stopped.
Like the Kharkiv offensive was making progress. Then it stopped.
Come back to me when you figure out the concept of time
Ukraine obviously won't even entertain this, but a sign of Putin panicking? Momentum shifting back to Ukraine?
How's the momentum shifting back to Ukraine? It was only a few days ago that you finally started to acknowledge that it's a stalemate.
No, you've completely missed the point.Well given their incredible new offensive has amounted to nothing and Putin is now considering halting the war I'd say it's a fairly obvious indicator that it's not looking great for Russia at the moment no?
Hitler also agreed to a truce in 1939, but told the Allies that Poland's future would be exclusively decided by the Soviet Union and Germany.No, you've completely missed the point.
Putin offered a truce nearly 2 years ago, and it was rejected, he's now got all the territory he wants, he's got his foot on the throat of Ukraine, and he's offered some clemency.
If an offer is rejected, he will roll all over Ukraine. They'd be stupid to reject the offer.
As it stands the whole of Ukraine is on the brink of collapse.
As far as the USA continuing to supply Ukraine with weapons, I'd suggest that will come to an end very soon, the will of the American people is no longer behind the plan, and there is an election later this year, after which I think the money for Ukraine will stop.
he's now got all the territory he wants, he's got his foot on the throat of Ukraine, and he's offered some clemency.
If an offer is rejected, he will roll all over Ukraine. They'd be stupid to reject the offer.
As it stands the whole of Ukraine is on the brink of collapse.
Hitler also agreed to a truce in 1939, but told the Allies that Poland's future would be exclusively decided by the Soviet Union and Germany.
Unfortunately for Herr Putin, Europe has realised that appeasement is not the answer.
How's the momentum shifting back to Ukraine? It was only a few days ago that you finally started to acknowledge that it's a stalemate.
A generation of Ukrainian young men have been killed, seriously wounded or fled the country to avoid call up. They need another 500,000 front line troops. In six months time Biden's support and funding will cease. There's no realistic alternative to a negotiated settlement.
That's about right.Yes, he's got his foot on the throat of Ukraine and he's just waiting for the right moment to steamroller the whole country 800 days into his 3 day war.
Any minute now.
Yep, he's intentionally waited this long and inflicted 500k Russian casualties because...reasons.
Everything is going perfectly to plan.
Just waiting for him to give the order.
That's about right.
So it's a stalemate, then.Well given their incredible new offensive has amounted to nothing and Putin is now considering halting the war I'd say it's a fairly obvious indicator that it's not looking great for Russia at the moment no?
So it's a stalemate, then.
Well I can tell you one thing for sure, Putin ain't losing, if you choose to believe he's struggling, then good luck to you, as you've clearly got your head stuck in the sand.Funny thing is I think you actually believe that.
Well I can tell you one thing for sure, Putin ain't losing, if you choose to believe he's struggling, then good luck to you, as you've clearly got your head stuck in the sand.
If you don't believe me, fine. just sit tight and watch this play out.
It is almost perverse how much glee you take from this war. I wouldn't go as far as to say you want Russia to win, but you would definitely take an unhealthy amount of joy in them doing so to be proven "right".Well I can tell you one thing for sure, Putin ain't losing, if you choose to believe he's struggling, then good luck to you, as you've clearly got your head stuck in the sand.
If you don't believe me, fine. just sit tight and watch this play out.
I originally thought that, but apparently that's how they do things, it's all about limiting his own casualties, and according to some strategists, Russian losses are nowhere near the numbers we are hearing.Just trying to work out the logic of racking up 500k casualties and hundreds of billions of dollars of equipment losses when apparently all he has to do is give an order to steamroll the whole country. Seems a bit of a strange tactic for such a strategic genius.
Complete and utter nonsence of the absolute highest order.It is almost perverse how much glee you take from this war. I wouldn't go as far as to say you want Russia to win, but you would definitely take an unhealthy amount of joy in them doing so to be proven "right".
It's this kind of pro-Kremlin nonsense that I see you spout that makes me think what I outlined above. If Herr Putin does care about limiting his own causalities, it would be in complete odds with the MO of Russia up until now, and also contrary to reports.I originally thought that, but apparently that's how they do things, it's all about limiting his own casualties, and according to some strategists, Russian losses are nowhere near the numbers we are hearing.
There's no doubt they are continuing to creep forward relentlessly. They now have total air supremacy and are taking a number of towns with no resistance. It looks like it will be over before the end of summer unless NATO puts boots on the ground in massive numbers, which I can't see happening.
The worry for me is that the slow pace of the Russian advance is tantamount to Putin goading the west to interveen, which would obviously play right into his hands.
Imo, if there's a truce to be had, Ukraine needs to take it, before there's no one left to fight.
There's no doubt they are continuing to creep forward relentlessly. They now have total air supremacy and are taking a number of towns with no resistance. It looks like it will be over before the end of summer unless NATO puts boots on the ground in massive numbers, which I can't see happening.
A, it's nowhere near 500k casualties, that's western propaganda. America's own strategists are admitting Russian casualties are low. (There's plenty of comment and interviews on line)I'd love to know what your sources are for all this.
You keep contradicting yourself: Putin is trying to keep casualties down...but is engaging in several years of war...that he could have got done in a few days...because they're so strong...but 500k is 'keeping casualties down '
Ive been saying it was a stalemate for nearly a year now; glad you got there in the end too.Just waiting for Putin to give the nod and it'll all be over in a few days apparently.
B, The slow pace of the advance could be down to a number of reasons, such as, giving civilians time to flee, not overstretching his supply lines too quickly, giving time for diplomatic talks, or simply goading NATO, in short I have no idea why Putin is being so cautious.
They are further forward, they are well advanced and steadily gaining ground....or because they physically aren't able to?
They planned to win the war in three days, the fact we're 800 days in and they're no further forward than this time 2 years ago is not because Putin is being 'cautious'.
I can't believe that even needs saying tbh.
They are further forward, they are well advanced and steadily gaining ground.
In other news the totally realiable Kyiv Post suggests Elvis is still alive on the moon but living in a double decker bus was just a rumour and not yet confirmed.
That's more believable than reporting that Kyiv would be lost in 3 days I guess.