What do we still need? (5 Viewers)

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Anyway, got a feeling he’ll be off. We need more in the middle for me anyway.

At least you can still send him a valentines card.

 

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[hill83]

At least you can still send him a valentines card.

Valentines is the result of a cult.

 

[Winny the Bish]

Two signings and we’re fine:

1) Ball-playing, press resistant 6. Surely Man City have a midfielder in their development squad we can spend a few million on to learn from Sheaf.

2) A young striker with real pace. Loan or permanent.

 

[mmttww]

Dausch, Obikwu nor Tavares will be in the first team come August. All will probably be loaned out so they can develop.

I think this is my thing; maybe naive but I'd want Obikwu to show enough in pre-season to back up that position. If we loaned or bought someone cheap and young with loads of pace I'd get that, though tbf.

 

[Viktor17]

People getting far too excited about Obikwu because he’s banged couple goals in on city unseen! That does not translate into being back up for Simms! Friday showed he’s very raw, needs to use his body better/ lightweight. He didn’t pull up trees at Grimsby, did ok in parts I read.

he needs further loan at lower league to develop. In addition Tavares is not good enough, end of debate.

we are aiming to be in battle for top 6 - we need another striker to replace godden.

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Two signings and we’re fine:

1) Ball-playing, press resistant 6. Surely Man City have a midfielder in their development squad we can spend a few million on to learn from Sheaf.

2) A young striker with real pace. Loan or permanent.

1) Mahamadou Susoho, Myles Lewis-Skelly

 

[skyblue025]

I think this is my thing; maybe naive but I'd want Obikwu to show enough in pre-season to back up that position. If we loaned or bought someone cheap and young with loads of pace I'd get that, though tbf.

Cheap, young with loads of pace = Obikwu or Tavarrs? Problem we have is anyone coming in knows they are going to be backup and how many are going to be happy with that?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

One question is how to play Saka, EMC, Simms, Wright in our first choice. Most of us would like to see those 4 as starters. Signs are pointing to a 4-3-3. Could Saka work as one on the midfield 3: Saka, Sheaf, Rudoni. Top 3: EMC, Simms, Wright. Not saying it’s likely but can’t see another way to get them all on the pitch any other way in a 4-3-3.

We don't. The good thing about having them all is that it gives us the chance to change this from the bench without dropping the quality on the pitch and also allows rotation so the players can get more rest time and keep performances up for longer into the season.

Besides, chances are at least one will pick up at least a small injury and we won't have all of them available at the same time anyway.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Two signings and we’re fine:

1) Ball-playing, press resistant 6. Surely Man City have a midfielder in their development squad we can spend a few million on to learn from Sheaf.

2) A young striker with real pace. Loan or permanent.

Having a ball playing no.6 sounds great. Don't see why them telling Clive and Andy Turner to fuck off is helpful though?

 

[Chris1987]

The more the merrier is a daft approach. If the players a club desires aren't available don't spend. Your transfer policy is a passport to financial oblivion
Blueskiesforever

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I think this is my thing; maybe naive but I'd want Obikwu to show enough in pre-season to back up that position. If we loaned or bought someone cheap and young with loads of pace I'd get that, though tbf.

Obikwu had a decent spell in L2, 3 goals in 16 games is respectable. It’s nothing to suggest he is ready to make the step up as a Championship striker.

I want us to show some ambition and get someone who can really push Simms and Wright. They will have goalless spells and another person to push them and offers slightly different attributes is a welcome addition in my book.

Looking at our depth chart, we’re short at ST, CM 3 and RB or CB depending where we see Lati playing. Yes, we have players that can cover more than one position but learning the lessons from last season is that we need options to freshen things up.

Players like Burroughs, Tavares, Andrews and other young players are potentially good to have in the wider squad. We don’t want to relying on them and limiting their minutes when they can probably develop elsewhere at a lower level.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

The more the merrier is a daft approach. If the players a club desires aren't available don't spend. Your transfer policy is a passport to financial oblivion
Blueskiesforever

Exactly. Really no point in buying more players who are no better than what we have. We need one or two exceptional players more in the Hamer/Gyokeres mould and an experienced leader. These could be loans who might be the difference between a similar season to last and getting into the play offs.

 

[Winny the Bish]

1) Mahamadou Susoho, Myles Lewis-Skelly

Big fan of Lewis-Skelly but I read that Arsenal are trying to turn him into a left back. Seems like a massive waste of his talent.

 

[Covcraig@bury]

Chips

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Chips

They're fries

 

[Covcraig@bury]

They're fries

Fuck

 

[mmttww]

... another person to push them and offers slightly different attributes is a welcome addition in my book.

Fair enough. Hadn't thought about it from the attribute POV. Obikwu seems quite similar to Wright and Simms. Having something different through the middle would be valuable. You win.

 

[Alkhen]

Of course it will but we have to be pragmatic about a player who cost peanuts , it can't be a fire sale just for the sake of it

I mean that's over egging it. It won't plummet!

He'll have a year on his contract just like Vik and Hamer did.

10-15 m is probably Sheafs value and but I think we know he's worth more to us than that. So we stick a £20m price tag to put teams off.

I think it's highly likely we'd get at least 10 for him next summer if we haven't gone up. probably more

 

[higgs]

What about norton cuffey is he available as back up to mve

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[Jonny]

What about norton cuffey is he available as back up to mve

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Got enough cover at RB for my mind. MvE, Burroughs as out and out RB/RWB, then if desperate, Latibeaudiere/Eccles.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

The more the merrier is a daft approach. If the players a club desires aren't available don't spend. Your transfer policy is a passport to financial oblivion
Blueskiesforever

Nearly missed this one because you didn’t tag me in it, anyway, it’s not a “passport to financial oblivion” as you dramatically put it. Getting in players to secure promotion is the most important thing in my view, particularly with the ethos of the club atm and the shape of the league having much weaker teams than last year (either physically or financially).

I’ve said this multiple times now but I’m not saying buy every £10 mil player under the sun, all we’d need is literally £1-2 mil for a back up at RB, maybe £2-4 mil for a back up ST and £2-5 mil on quality CM. Yeah okay that’s somewhere between £5-11 mil for 3 positions but it’s honestly peanuts these days for new signings in the championship. There’s somewhere between £150-200 mil on offer (plus parachute payments) if we make it into the prem. That £5-11 mil will be absolutely nothing if we get promoted. It’s obviously up to Doug how much he wants to invest but there’s always the Gyokeres and Hamer money if things go our way. Currently I think we’re short in a few places but let’s just see what develops and judge later.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Nearly missed this one because you didn’t tag me in it, anyway, it’s not a “passport to financial oblivion” as you dramatically put it. Getting in players to secure promotion is the most important thing in my view, particularly with the ethos of the club atm and the shape of the league having much weaker teams than last year (either physically or financially).

I’ve said this multiple times now but I’m not saying buy every £10 mil player under the sun, all we’d need is literally £1-2 mil for a back up at RB, maybe £2-4 mil for a back up ST and £2-5 mil on quality CM. Yeah okay that’s somewhere between £5-11 mil for 3 positions but it’s honestly peanuts these days for new signings in the championship. There’s somewhere between £150-200 mil on offer (plus parachute payments) if we make it into the prem. That £5-11 mil will be absolutely nothing if we get promoted. It’s obviously up to Doug how much he wants to invest but there’s always the Gyokeres and Hamer money if things go our way. Currently I think we’re short in a few places but let’s just see what develops and judge later.

Spending 1-2mil on a BACKUP RB and 2-4 mil on a backup ST

you want to spend up to £6m on players to start on the bench. You are completely and utterly deluded

 

[SleepyGinger]

In my opinion the order of priority is:

1) ST - We’re a Simms or Haji injury from being down to the bare bones. Godden got a lot of mins last year, he needs replacing.

2) CM - Statement signing to play alongside Sheaf and one of Rudoni Eccles or Torp with Allen and Palmer in reserve.

3) CB- Dominant centre back, currently got the same back 4 that conceded a lot of goals last year. Similarly to when Brentford signed Pontus Jansson to finally get them over the line.

4)RB- Burroughs still pretty raw and Lati isn’t a right back. Cody Drameh is a free agent wouldn’t mind him or possibly a prem loan.

 

[covcity4life]

In my opinion the order of priority is:

1) ST - We’re a Simms or Haji injury from being down to the bare bones. Godden got a lot of mins last year, he needs replacing.

2) CM - Statement signing to play alongside Sheaf and one of Rudoni Eccles or Torp with Allen and Palmer in reserve.

3) CB- Dominant centre back, currently got the same back 4 that conceded a lot of goals last year. Similarly to when Brentford signed Pontus Jansson to finally get them over the line.

4)RB- Burroughs still pretty raw and Lati isn’t a right back. Cody Drameh is a free agent wouldn’t mind him or possibly a prem loan.

Agreed

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

Spending 1-2mil on a BACKUP RB and 2-4 mil on a backup ST

you want to spend up to £6m on players to start on the bench. You are completely and utterly deluded

So you don’t think we need a decent back up for Simms for the whole season? and the same for MVE? Every single game we play throughout the season and we don’t have a bit of quality to bring on?

If you’re happy with Tavares/Dausch at ST and Burroughs/Lati at RB being subbed on almost every other game then fair but to me that’s not going to cut it when we’re playing teams in the top 8-10. We bring off a prem quality player and we bring on an academy player, I’m sure the opposition are going to be running scared.

 

[SkyBlueStallion_89]

We won't buy another LB or RB, think Robins is happy with JDS/Bidwell and MVE/Burroughs, JDS needs to improve massively this season, I think we could do with an experienced CH in the fadz mould, a CM (really want us to sign Bernede) and a striker in my opinion.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

So you don’t think we need a decent back up for Simms for the whole season? and the same for MVE? Every single game we play throughout the season and we don’t have a bit of quality to bring on?

If you’re happy with Tavares/Dausch at ST and Burroughs/Lati at RB being subbed on almost every other game then fair but to me that’s not going to cut it when we’re playing teams in the top 8-10. We bring off a prem quality player and we bring on an academy player, I’m sure the opposition are going to be running scared.

There is a difference and a jump between spending £2m on a backup RB and playing an academy player.

like someone said on this thread, we have enough cover at RB without needing to spend budget. Our fans have become so entitled in such a short space of time.

you think we ar playing fifa or football manager

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

There is a difference and a jump between spending £2m on a backup RB and playing an academy player.

like someone said on this thread, we have enough cover at RB without needing to spend budget. Our fans have become so entitled in such a short space of time.

you think we ar playing fifa or football manager

I don’t feel entitled at all, we’ve come a long way in a short space of time, I just believe that everything is lined up for us to get promoted this season and that extra bit of quality will go a long way. We bring off a quality player and replace them with someone who’s decent at this level, that’s how we keep grinding out wins rather than grinding out draws like we did last season.

I’m not having a go at you personally, I feel like you make some good points most of the time, I just genuinely feel like an extra push in signings will be the difference between us being in the top 8 and us being promoted. We’ve no idea how much Doug plans to invest, I’m purely speculating here, but I really think that extra £7-10 mil will make a big difference if he can stretch to it.

 

[Chris1987]

Nearly missed this one because you didn’t tag me in it, anyway, it’s not a “passport to financial oblivion” as you dramatically put it. Getting in players to secure promotion is the most important thing in my view, particularly with the ethos of the club atm and the shape of the league having much weaker teams than last year (either physically or financially).

I’ve said this multiple times now but I’m not saying buy every £10 mil player under the sun, all we’d need is literally £1-2 mil for a back up at RB, maybe £2-4 mil for a back up ST and £2-5 mil on quality CM. Yeah okay that’s somewhere between £5-11 mil for 3 positions but it’s honestly peanuts these days for new signings in the championship. There’s somewhere between £150-200 mil on offer (plus parachute payments) if we make it into the prem. That £5-11 mil will be absolutely nothing if we get promoted. It’s obviously up to Doug how much he wants to invest but there’s always the Gyokeres and Hamer money if things go our way. Currently I think we’re short in a few places but let’s just see what develops and judge later.

So to summarise you're prepared to gamble up to £11M on promotion "Peanuts" what planet are you on ? It's not absolutely nothing if we don't get promoted . Different situation if Viktor & Gus go but your attitude towards gambling big sums on an eventuality which is an 11/2 shot in the bookies eyes is reckless at best , utter stupidity more realistically.
Have you forgotten what happened when the clubs finances were previously in the hands of gamblers such as yourself ?
May as well get Terry Ramsden in now.

 

[procdoc]

I don’t feel entitled at all, we’ve come a long way in a short space of time, I just believe that everything is lined up for us to get promoted this season and that extra bit of quality will go a long way. We bring off a quality player and replace them with someone who’s decent at this level, that’s how we keep grinding out wins rather than grinding out draws like we did last season.

I’m not having a go at you personally, I feel like you make some good points most of the time, I just genuinely feel like an extra push in signings will be the difference between us being in the top 8 and us being promoted. We’ve no idea how much Doug plans to invest, I’m purely speculating here, but I really think that extra £7-10 mil will make a big difference if he can stretch to it.

What you are asking is not sustainable. There are no guarantees that spending big on back up players would get us promoted. I’d rather have Burroughs, someone that knows the club deputise than someone who might take half a season to settle in

 

[CV22SBA]

There is a difference and a jump between spending £2m on a backup RB and playing an academy player.

like someone said on this thread, we have enough cover at RB without needing to spend budget. Our fans have become so entitled in such a short space of time.

you think we ar playing fifa or football manager

Burroughs & JDS are not good enough for the championship. Burroughs will go out on loan again.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

What about norton cuffey is he available as back up to mve

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Forty appearances in the Championship last season and a similar number the year before? He's not going to want to come here and sit on the bench.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

What you are asking is not sustainable. There are no guarantees that spending big on back up players would get us promoted. I’d rather have Burroughs, someone that knows the club deputise than someone who might take half a season to settle in

Spending millions on back up players and handing them four year contracts would be disastrous. If we have millions to spare use it on players who will improve the team and make us into genuine play off contenders.

 

[junglej13]

What about norton cuffey is he available as back up to mve

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Seems he is going somewhere possibly on a permanent deal. Some talk of Sheff United!

 

[itsabuzzard]

Nearly missed this one because you didn’t tag me in it, anyway, it’s not a “passport to financial oblivion” as you dramatically put it. Getting in players to secure promotion is the most important thing in my view, particularly with the ethos of the club atm and the shape of the league having much weaker teams than last year (either physically or financially).

I’ve said this multiple times now but I’m not saying buy every £10 mil player under the sun, all we’d need is literally £1-2 mil for a back up at RB, maybe £2-4 mil for a back up ST and £2-5 mil on quality CM. Yeah okay that’s somewhere between £5-11 mil for 3 positions but it’s honestly peanuts these days for new signings in the championship. There’s somewhere between £150-200 mil on offer (plus parachute payments) if we make it into the prem. That £5-11 mil will be absolutely nothing if we get promoted. It’s obviously up to Doug how much he wants to invest but there’s always the Gyokeres and Hamer money if things go our way. Currently I think we’re short in a few places but let’s just see what develops and judge later.

I don't think there's any evidence that the league will be "much weaker", than last season.