Gathering for Tommy / Discontent (15 Viewers)

[Nick]

There can be discussions - but it has to be based on actual facts.

So it isn't fact that the culture of a lot of people coming here isn't completely different towards women than our own?

That's not saying there aren't cunts here, either.

 

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[torchomatic]

that is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read.

wait till your daughters are up town and in a club or bar surrounded by a group drinking just a glass of coke all night preying on young girls. sure their opinion will change then

Just last week. look at the ethnicity of the preying men

"The ethnicity of the preying men". One story. I bet you'd find a story equally as shocking with white men. This is the problem for me. The singling out of a group of people because of the colour of their skin. When was the last time you complained about a group of white men hassling young girls. Let me guess...

This is the way this thing works out on social media and on this site.

 

[torchomatic]

Fucking immigrants coming over here making indecent images of our kids….

Bloody Welsh.

 

[torchomatic]

This is exactly why there can never be discussions. He's a fucking horrible nonce, not sure anybody would deny that.

What's the betting that ESB, Gimoc, Gynns, etc wouldn't comment on that story?

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

What's the betting that ESB, Gimoc, Gynns, etc wouldn't comment on that story?

Why won't i, he deserves everything that's coming to him, very strange comment from yourself there

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

What's the betting that ESB, Gimoc, Gynns, etc wouldn't comment on that story?

Who the fuck do you think I am, I'm a family man that's runs his own business that wants the best for his family and the country he lives in you fucking prick

 

[Nick]

"The ethnicity of the preying men". One story. I bet you'd find a story equally as shocking with white men. This is the problem for me. The singling out of a group of people because of the colour of their skin. When was the last time you complained about a group of white men hassling young girls. Let me guess...

This is the way this thing works out on social media and on this site.

This is also why there isn't allowed to be any discussion about the different cultures and immigration.

Its the same when it's said somebody wants to just come and rinse benefits. "British people do that too".

Yes, we know.

 

[torchomatic]

Yes, we know.

You wouldn't think we knew though, would you?

 

[covcity4life]

Who the fuck do you think I am, I'm a family man that's runs his own business that wants the best for his family and the country he lives in you fucking prick

Make more money running your own business rather than molesting it!

Ffs you edited!

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Forgotten SYL was a Luton Town fan. Now his football banning order for punching an England fan is over, perhaps he will turn up at the CBS this season.

 

[torchomatic]

Who the fuck do you think I am, I'm a family man that's runs his own business that wants the best for his family and the country he lives in you fucking prick

I think going on Tommy Robinson marches is dodgy. Like it or not, couldn't give a fuck.

EDIT: I want the best for my lad too, I just don't think flirting with the far right and a known racist is the way to go about it. That's just my view, of course.

 

[Grendel]

Forgotten SYL was a Luton Town fan. Now his football banning order for punching an England fan is over, perhaps he will turn up at the CBS this season.

Oh Charles why do you think its clever to keep saying Tommy Robinsons birth name in various guises?

 

[torchomatic]

Oh Charles why do you think its clever to keep saying Tommy Robinsons birth name in various guises?

Why is it an issue? It's perfectly legitimate to highlight what a charlatan he is.

 

[Nick]

You wouldn't think we knew though, would you?

What's your point? You didn't have an issue making statements about everybody who went to certain schools or who voted for a certain party, everybody who does something is racist but if somebody mentions that the countries that some immigrants come from aren't nice to women then it's not acceptable?

Its not one or the other. Is it uncomfortable?

 

[Otis]

Who WOULDN'T want to follow him?

 

[Nick]

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Who WOULDN'T want to follow him?

Again this is why discussions don't get had.

I'm betting some people have some issues that he covers but there's no middle ground between him and farage and then the left when it comes to stuff like that.

Its either let's everybody home an immigrant and give them a cuddle or machine gun a Muslim. (Yeah, exaggeration).

The fact that there was a perfectly sensible discussion about cultures and behaviour towards women but then it's "yeah but Andrew Tate" and "Welsh BBC nonce". Yeah, it's not one or the other.

You don't have to be a Tommy Robinson follower or fan. (Already said the term was cringeworthy).

 

[Sick Boy]

Fucking immigrants coming over here making indecent images of our kids….

Where are the community leaders???

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I can easily imagine that there’s a lot you can’t tell the difference between. Tate followers don’t tend to shy away from admitting it. Neither do Muslims. It’s becoming a real issue in schools, you can dismiss it if you like but it doesn’t change the fact. The difference between the boys in my eldests year to the boys in my youngests year is stark and there’s only 2 years between them. It’s escalating and they’re getting them younger and younger

So a Muslim tends freely confirm " I'm a Muslim" as an introduction then. What's the context here ? Is this as a method of intimidation ?
Sounds very vague because you don't actually say what the " real issue " is other than all the lads either follow Tate or are Muslims .
Sounds complete bollocks.

 

[Nick]

So a Muslim tends freely confirm " I'm a Muslim" as an introduction then. What's the context here ? Is this as a method of intimidation ?
Sounds very vague because you don't actually say what the " real issue " is other than all the lads either follow Tate or are Muslims .
Sounds complete bollocks.

Isn't Andrew Tate a muslim? I can't keep up.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Because schools don’t fit into one homogenous blob where the cohort demographics are all the same - context is important.
I never mentioned or asserted a school being racist based on its proportion of white attendees. You’ve made that jump all on your own.

So why mention schools where the overwhelming majority are white ? So what .

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Isn't Andrew Tate a muslim? I can't keep up.

Only if he's completely white with a beard and pirate eye patch

 

[nicksar]

Isn't Andrew Tate a muslim? I can't keep up.

No he isn't but he did pretend he had reverted to Islam in order to get more business in Dubai

 

[Grendel]

Where are the community leaders???

Huw Edwards isn’t a community and not - to my knowledge - been accused of being in a gang from a specific country hell bent and exploiting, raping and profiting from white girls.

There is a difference.

 

[Sick Boy]

Huw Edwards isn’t a community and not - to my knowledge - been accused of being in a gang from a specific country hell bent and exploiting, raping and profiting from white girls.

There is a difference.

The point is that people tar billions of people with the same brush. He’s white and British, so I don’t see the difference compared to the stuff that gets posted on here.

 

[Otis]

Again this is why discussions don't get had.

I'm betting some people have some issues that he covers but there's no middle ground between him and farage and then the left when it comes to stuff like that.

Its either let's everybody home an immigrant and give them a cuddle or machine gun a Muslim. (Yeah, exaggeration).

The fact that there was a perfectly sensible discussion about cultures and behaviour towards women but then it's "yeah but Andrew Tate" and "Welsh BBC nonce". Yeah, it's not one or the other.

You don't have to be a Tommy Robinson follower or fan. (Already said the term was cringeworthy).

It is a thread about Tommy Robinson.

 

[skybluetony176]

Huw Edwards isn’t a community and not - to my knowledge - been accused of being in a gang from a specific country hell bent and exploiting, raping and profiting from white girls.

There is a difference.

He is in one community, the community he was sharing images with. Let’s hope they’re not all Welsh otherwise some peoples minds might explode.

 

[Nick]

He is in one community, the community he was sharing images with. Let’s hope they’re not all Welsh otherwise some peoples minds might explode.

Let's hope the police see everybody in the group chat and stamp on all of them on their way into custody!

 

[skybluetony176]

Let's hope the police see everybody in the group chat and stamp on all of them on their way into custody!

Probably get more for protesting on the M25.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

What's the betting that ESB, Gimoc, Gynns, etc wouldn't comment on that story?

What the fuck are you on about? I'm pretty sure everyone on this thread would like to see Edwards rot in a cell, that doesn't mean there aren't conversations about certain communities that we should just ignore because of it.

Maybe I was wrong and people should actually get out of the sun. There's some extremely weird takes going on here today.

 

[SkyBlueMatt]

"Tommy" is a f*cking twat and anyone who actively supports him is a twat.

He is a grifter, pure and simple. Targeting disillusioned white folk and out and out racists.

Is there a problem and discussions to be had over immigration? Yes. Is Stephen f*cking Yaxley the one to take seriously regarding this? Not a chance.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

"Tommy" is a f*cking twat and anyone who actively supports him is a twat.

He is a grifter, pure and simple. Targeting disillusioned white folk and out and out racists.

Is there a problem and discussions to be had over immigration? Yes. Is Stephen f*cking Yaxley the one to take seriously regarding this? Not a chance.

Who's Stephen Yaxley ?

 

[torchomatic]

 

[hamertime]

How will people feel once they are actually outbred by Muslims in this country and start loosing everything at the ballot boxes. This is what will happen. Birmingham currently 34% Christian 29% Islam, not going to take long is it.

Everything will be fine don’t worry they are a really tolerant releigion

 

[hamertime]

That is a divisive and ignorant comment and such reactionary comments are part of the problem. I know schools are very worried about the rise in misogyny/conspiracies fuelled by Tate and racism/police/media/WOKE conspiracies fuelled by Yaxley-Lennon amongst teenage boys. Likewise I know through my sons friends that schools are aware there are far right Muslim brainwashing/groomers targeting kids with negative conspiracy stories about Israel and western government's culture etc. Sure there are some radical lefty organisations out there too wanting to distort the truth and fight back. It all has to stop as we are in danger of going down the US route which may well explode in 6 months time. There are people in many groups/camps in UK and across much of Europe bragging about the need for uprisings and taking back control etc. I don't get the narcissism, insecurity and lack of education amongst all these groups. We all need to work together strengthen the economy, get a decent job a nice safe house, relax with our families and friends and enjoy life and the footy. There are too many people searching for conspiracies and stories to stoke the culture/race wars and try and prove certain political/social trends that really just don't exist.... its all just very peculiar. Guess man's incessant political lust for power, sex and money does weird things to people's minds and want to attract attention. I find it odd that said 'followers' don't take a step back from what they may be hearing, take a breath and think is this true, does this help society and this country whatever political/cultural/religious views they have. This country has massive opportunity and potential yet its all just frittering away through in fighting, jealousy and bullshit information designed to influence gullible people. My mum reads the Daily Mail and its bewildering how much she laps up the misinformation and inaccurate spin they put on everything - I cannot fathom how they sleep at night knowing they do this so incessantly on every single story/article rather than take a proper journalistic approach.

Guess we all get drawn into this battle at time with our views, but its not healthy physically or mentally and UK is a great diverse free place but it could be so much nicer and fulfilling.

It is diverse and free, but it wouldn’t be if it was a muslim country would it.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

He is in one community, the community he was sharing images with. Let’s hope they’re not all Welsh otherwise some peoples minds might explode.