Shamima Begum (2 Viewers)

Sick Boy

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Ffs some of you really do try to pretend to be too nice on a faceless football forum. I imagine you're ok with living next door to her? All sanctimonious crap.

Terrorists are ok, but dont you dare disagree with me about anything political or righteous on here or I'll follow you to the end of the earth to call you a wanker!
I don’t think anyone on here as ever said that if she were to return she shouldn’t be in prison. She was born and radicalised in the UK, meaning she’s the UK’s problem. Plus I’m not sure countries should be allowed to revoke citizenship of someone born there if they’re entitled to citizenship.
 

fernandopartridge

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I don’t think anyone on here as ever said that if she were to return she shouldn’t be in prison. She was born and radicalised in the UK, meaning she’s the UK’s problem. Plus I’m not sure countries should be allowed to revoke citizenship of someone born there if they’re entitled to citizenship.
I wouldn't go as far as saying she should be in prison, the point is that our courts should decide whether or not she should be in prison, not some culture warrior Tory minister.

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Sick Boy

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I wouldn't go as far as saying she should be in prison, the point is that our courts should decide whether or not she should be in prison, not some culture warrior Tory minister.

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Yeah, don’t disagree, but it’s inevitable she’d spend some time inside.
 

rob9872

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Yeah, don’t disagree, but it’s inevitable she’d spend some time inside.
Probably segregated for her safety and re-radicalised. Lovely.
 

Otis

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This can't be right and there must be a mistake.

I saw so many SM posts just before the election saying the minute Labour get into a power, she will walk straight back into Britain

Must be some mistake.
 
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rob9872

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Not saying it should have any bearing on the case, but she does look quite fit now so I'd be more inclined to let her back.
 

rob9872

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Grendel

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I do find this situation absurd.

Whatever Ms Begum has done she was born in Britain. It’s a dangerous precedent and entirely at odds with fairness. I’m not even sure what she has done would constitute much of a crime and even if it is she’s served time.

Starmer is essentially now better than the tories. His record at the CPS was highly dubious - and he has flip flopped on this issue (big surprise)

People talk about defending human rights of murderers and rapists but this is a national disgrace and our new government is exactly the same as the outgoing one.

 
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Otis

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I do find this situation absurd.

Whatever Ms Begum has done she was born in Britain. It’s a dangerous precedent and entirely at odds with fairness. I’m not even sure what she has done would constitute much of a crime and even if it is she’s served time.

Starmer is essentially now better than the tories. His record at the CPS was highly dubious - and he has flip flopped on this issue (big surprise)

People talk about defending human rights of murderers and rapists but this is a national disgrace and our new government is exactly the same as the outgoing one.

That's great isn't it, that Starmer is now better than the Tories

Keep it up, son. 👍
 

fatso

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I do find this situation absurd.

Whatever Ms Begum has done she was born in Britain. It’s a dangerous precedent and entirely at odds with fairness. I’m not even sure what she has done would constitute much of a crime and even if it is she’s served time.

Starmer is essentially now better than the tories. His record at the CPS was highly dubious - and he has flip flopped on this issue (big surprise)

People talk about defending human rights of murderers and rapists but this is a national disgrace and our new government is exactly the same as the outgoing one.

It's a totaly bizarre situation, how any one can deny another human their nationality is rediculous.

If she's committed a crime then let the courts deal with it, that's what they are there for.

From the limited info available it appears she was radicalised and trafficked to serve isis fighters. Nowhere does it suggest she was a combatant.

I have a nagging thought that there's actually very little evidence against her.
 

Grendel

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That's great isn't it, that Starmer is now better than the Tories

Keep it up, son. 👍

I get the joke but his record at the CPS was littered with the attitude of throwing uk citizens to the dogs - especially if the dog was from the US
 

wingy

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I get the joke but his record at the CPS was littered with the attitude of throwing uk citizens to the dogs - especially if the dog was from the US
Well at least Asange is Safe after his year's in isolation,a win for good judgement ultimately, but!
I don't think he'll pander to them should Trump get in , which I increasingly don't unless Trump comes up with a gotcha moment!
 

Grendel

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Well at least Asange is Safe after his year's in isolation,a win for good judgement ultimately, but!
I don't think he'll pander to them should Trump get in , which I increasingly don't unless Trump comes up with a gotcha moment!

His treatment of Garry McKinnon was appalling as with those uk citizens locked up in G Bay without trial
 

Grendel

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Sick Boy

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I do find this situation absurd.

Whatever Ms Begum has done she was born in Britain. It’s a dangerous precedent and entirely at odds with fairness. I’m not even sure what she has done would constitute much of a crime and even if it is she’s served time.

Starmer is essentially now better than the tories. His record at the CPS was highly dubious - and he has flip flopped on this issue (big surprise)

People talk about defending human rights of murderers and rapists but this is a national disgrace and our new government is exactly the same as the outgoing one.

What makes it even worse is that she was a child at the time she left the country and seems was groomed online. Revoking citizenship which was acquired through birth, allowing a country to wash its hands of problems is very dangerous.
 

ccfc922

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Hear me out.....

No Way Smh GIF
 

ccfc922

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All part of the image makeover.

100% it's look at how "western" I am now.

I do agree though it's dangerous that the citizenship has been revoked, especially being born here.

If she did come back though, can she be imprisoned here for something that's happened abroad in a country that's probably not got much going on in the way of a justice system atm?
 

Grendel

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100% it's look at how "western" I am now.

I do agree though it's dangerous that the citizenship has been revoked, especially being born here.

If she did come back though, can she be imprisoned here for something that's happened abroad in a country that's probably not got much going on in the way of a justice system atm?

She has essentially served a sentence

I highly doubt we could try her for anything. However, what can you actually do other than bring her back. She is British.

It cannot be correct that someone is not allowed any actual status for the rest of their life.
 

Como

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Citizenship in Bangladesh is primarily acquired on the principle of ius sanguinis- subject to the Citizenship Act of 1951, a person born to at least one Bangladeshi parent shall be considered a Bangladeshi citizen.
 

Sick Boy

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Citizenship in Bangladesh is primarily acquired on the principle of ius sanguinis- subject to the Citizenship Act of 1951, a person born to at least one Bangladeshi parent shall be considered a Bangladeshi citizen.
It still doesn’t mean she’s not British first and foremost. Just checked and she’s not got Bangladeshi citizenship so is effectively stateless.
 

MalcSB

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It still doesn’t mean she’s not British first and foremost. Just checked and she’s not got Bangladeshi citizenship so is effectively stateless.
Has she applied for Bangladeshi citizenship? If she is entitled to it and hasn’t applied, her statelessness is her decision.
 

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