chiefdave
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How would that work, wouldn't you have to staff them with British prison officers? We hardly have loads of those spare.
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nicksar
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No idea Dave but i saw it in a lot of todays newspapers...will try to find a link.
MalcSB
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How can he not plead quilty?
nicksar
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British prisoners could soon be housed in ESTONIAN jails
Estonia's minister of justice Liisa Pakosta yesterday said they have cells available to rent out to its Nato allies.
Sky Blue Pete
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Depends how you see these things. I’m still unsure how cuplable id be if I just said it would be a good idea to kill Nick and someone did it. If there’s no coercion or influence or manipulation or even direct contact I’m really confused
chiefdave
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Looks more like its an idea from the Estonian side. There's older articles from a couple of weeks ago where one of their ministers talks about offering out their spare prison capacity to generate income.
Can't imagine it would be cheap but something has to be done. Not sure how long we can run with a one in one out system.
MalcSB
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Cheaper than Rwanda?
Nick
Administrator
Caught with drugs and knives. Did it again on bail. Less than somebody shouting at the police.
They don't take knife crime seriously.
Gynnsthetonic
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How he can deny the charge when he's caught full on camera encouraging violent disorder I do not know!BBC News - Councillor denies encouraging violent disorder
Kent councillor Ricky Jones denies encouraging violent disorder
Ricky Jones was charged with encouraging violent disorder after comments at a counter-protest.www.bbc.com
torchomatic
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BBC News - Rioter who stoked asylum hotel fire gets nine years
www.bbc.com
Rotherham: Arsonist who stoked bin fire at asylum seeker hotel jailed
Thomas Birley, 27, receives the longest prison sentence passed to date for his role in the disorder.
www.bbc.com
Grendel
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BBC News - Rioter who stoked asylum hotel fire gets nine years
Rotherham: Arsonist who stoked bin fire at asylum seeker hotel jailed
Thomas Birley, 27, receives the longest prison sentence passed to date for his role in the disorder.
I don’t think anyone can object to that as unreasonable in truth
mmttww
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Why are you dragging stories of people being killed and injured in here to try and score internet points? Nothing about what you post suggests you actually want to discuss law and order or public safety. Have a f*cking word with yourself.
mmttww
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FFS the issue with prison overcrowding has f*ck all to do with d*ckhead thugs getting locked up for riotting or inciting violence.
Thousands are locked up for getting high or being addicted to substances which is about as f*cking stupid an idea it gets.
Looking at CCFC fans posting some of the sh*t I see in here is genuinely depressing. Have a heart, stop being so f*cking hateful.
Thousands are locked up for getting high or being addicted to substances which is about as f*cking stupid an idea it gets.
Looking at CCFC fans posting some of the sh*t I see in here is genuinely depressing. Have a heart, stop being so f*cking hateful.
rob9872
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For anyone who thinks his or other sentences are unreasonable, if you look at the form, they've almost all got previous for similar offences and were jumping onto this bandwagon. Whilst completely unacceptable I'd have more sympathy with some of those who rode along with the wave of went on, but so many seem to have a back history of being a c**t.BBC News - Rioter who stoked asylum hotel fire gets nine years
Rotherham: Arsonist who stoked bin fire at asylum seeker hotel jailed
Thomas Birley, 27, receives the longest prison sentence passed to date for his role in the disorder.
chiefdave
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this guy seems to be a full on white supremasist who would have had no problem if 50+ people had died from his actions
sentencing is always a bit of a lottery anyway. you can take pretty much anyone in prison and do 'but what about' and compare them to someone else with a much lighter / harsher sentence
Sky Blue Pete
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It’s called innocent until proven guilty
Everyone involved could have pleaded not guilty
Marty
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I bet some of the first through the docks were thinking they'll be home by Christmas if they just plead guilty. What is it? 1/3 off straight away for pleading guilty, and now potentially having to serve as low as 20% of the sentence.
Como
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Political Opponents must take priority
www.theguardian.com
Some crime victims ‘unaware’ of offenders’ early prison release in England and Wales
‘Sizeable minority’ of survivors of crime have not been informed that perpetrators will be freed on Tuesday
Sky Blue Pete
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What’s the alternative comoPolitical Opponents must take priority
Some crime victims ‘unaware’ of offenders’ early prison release in England and Wales
‘Sizeable minority’ of survivors of crime have not been informed that perpetrators will be freed on Tuesday
Talk to me
The prison estate has no space - what do you do?
Workhouses,incarcerate them?
Never mind TR is organising a march protest for October 26th downing st,in his latest attempt at avoiding jail time!!
Sky Blue Pete
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They don’t exist
SkyBlueCharlie9
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Political opponents.....! Trumpesque bull$h!t. There were hundreds looting, attacking police and innocent people, throwing objects and inciting hatred and extremism. Just like the Labour Dartford Councillor hopefully will, they have to serve time. Funny how the likes of the idiotic RW's are suddenly less interested in the Tory mantra of being 'tough on crime' and fail to acknowledge that the prison service is an utter shambles thanks to 14 years of complete and utter mis-governance..... on failing to tackle prison crisis, failing to tackle crime and failing to clamping down on extremism and racism.Political Opponents must take priority
Some crime victims ‘unaware’ of offenders’ early prison release in England and Wales
‘Sizeable minority’ of survivors of crime have not been informed that perpetrators will be freed on Tuesday
Prison Reform Trust 2023 report:
" In 2016 Tory government announced £1.3bn for nine new prisons.
Nearly 10,700 prison places have been closed since 2010—many of them old and/or dilapidated. At the same time, nearly 11,000 places have been created, a net increase of just 300 prison places" [between 2010 and 2023].
Sky Blue Pete
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It really is an utter shit show and I love the report all the foreigners as if you can just do it
All while any meaningful management of the estate flies out the window as there’s no wriggle room for transfers or movement or any proper and meaningful activity
It’s fuckin pathetic and then starmer gets the blame for making a decision
Sky Blue Pete
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Glad you two find it funny that dangerous people are being released
Nick
Administrator
Blame the new prime minister.
Dangerous people are those posting online now remember.
The previous home office minister's lucky she's not getting a visit with her fascist language tbf, language does matter you know real-time or online!
Grendel
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Indeed - Pete I suspect is feeling rather embarrassed in believing this liar and charlatan and rewarding him at the ballot box
rob9872
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I'd like to say I'm surprised some of you revelling in the blame game of one government or another. These are not either or for me. The cunts rioting deserve locking up. The cunts being freed should still be locked up. If we're running out of space then make prison building and expansion a priority. And until they're built, then make them 3 to a cell if necessary. Ffs if they don't like it tough, they're not in for a holiday.
Nick
Administrator
Maybe deport some of the foreign nationals in prison and you instantly get some space as well.
rob9872
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Agree, but only after they've served their time or it can be guaranteed they will serve it in their home country. It seems presently that going home is a free pass.