Southport Stabbing (45 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

Blame the new prime minister.

Dangerous people are those posting online now remember.

I think the previous incumbents have much more blame to shoulder

Well we’ve talked about that the posting stuff

 

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[Sky Blue Pete]

Maybe deport some of the foreign nationals in prison and you instantly get some space as well.

They are being it’s not a decide to do it and send process
Have a read inform yourself

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I'd like to say I'm surprised some of you revelling in the blame game of one government or another. These are not either or for me. The cunts rioting deserve locking up. The cunts being freed should still be locked up. If we're running out of space then make prison building and expansion a priority. And until they're built, then make them 3 to a cell if necessary. Ffs if they don't like it tough, they're not in for a holiday.

How do you manage that Rob?
Where do you put the beds?
What if they don’t get on?
What personal space do you think people need?
how would you want a brother or friend to be treated?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

They are being it’s not a decide to do it and send process
Have a read inform yourself

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[Sky Blue Pete]

How do you manage that Rob?
Where do you put the beds?
What if they don’t get on?
What personal space do you think people need?
how would you want a brother or friend to be treated?

Here’s the law
Most prisons are meeting the overcrowded statutes presently. There is no space

From 7 years ago it’s much more challenging now

https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmiprisons/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/10/Findings-paper-Living-conditions-FINAL-.pdf

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Here’s the law
Most prisons are meeting the overcrowded statutes presently. There is no space

From 7 years ago it’s much more challenging now

https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmiprisons/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/10/Findings-paper-Living-conditions-FINAL-.pdf

Current regulations

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[rob9872]

How do you manage that Rob?
Where do you put the beds?
What if they don’t get on?
What personal space do you think people need?
how would you want a brother or friend to be treated?

Change the regulations, change the law.

Start with the worst offenders, if they kill eachother, ah well.

As for the beds, remove the tv and PlayStations plenty of room for another bed.

 

[Marty]

A lot of those locked up are for heinous crimes, the whole point of keeping the scum locked away is to keep the streets safe for the average person. If they need to share cells or even beds, I for one won't even give them a second thought.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Legalise and tax cannabis so you’ll raise money while freeing up prison space…

 

[Sick Boy]

Legalise and tax cannabis so you’ll raise money while freeing up prison space…

Agree with this as long as it’s not free to consume everywhere like in New York.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Change the regulations, change the law.

Start with the worst offenders, if they kill eachother, ah well.

As for the beds, remove the tv and PlayStations plenty of room for another bed.

Do you think it’s possible to maintain safety 24 hours a day 7 days a week with 1000 adults with nothing to do?
you’d be better to read the prison reform publications than the daily mail

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

A lot of those locked up are for heinous crimes, the whole point of keeping the scum locked away is to keep the streets safe for the average person. If they need to share cells or even beds, I for one won't even give them a second thought.

You’d be surprised
Last stats I saw were something like 30000 of 88000 on remand so unaentenced
Also tens of thousands serving less than 12 months

 

[rob9872]

Do you think it’s possible to maintain safety 24 hours a day 7 days a week with 1000 adults with nothing to do?
you’d be better to read the prison reform publications than the daily mail

Don't be so bloody condescending. Certainly have never read the DM and no intentions of reading prison guides. Simply behaving and knowing right from wrong is what I'll continue to live by. Some make poor choices and are unfortunate most I'd bet are cunts.

The issue with people like you Pete is you're most likely to be more angry with me for having an opinion that disagrees with yours own than with those who have committed actual crimes.

 

[MalcSB]

You’d be surprised
Last stats I saw were something like 30000 of 88000 on remand so unaentenced
Also tens of thousands serving less than 12 months

Speed the system up then, although not helpful if most are guilty and likely to receive a custodial.

It can be done when it suits the powers that be.

Presumably those serving less than 12 months are not guilty of heinous crimes, let them out earlier if needs be.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Don't be so bloody condescending. Certainly have never read the DM and no intentions of reading prison guides. Simply behaving and knowing right from wrong is what I'll continue to live by. Some make poor choices and are unfortunate most I'd bet are cunts.

The issue with people like you Pete is you're most likely to be more angry with me for having an opinion that disagrees with yours own than with those who have committed actual crimes.

No way not angry with you at all
Why would I be?
People like me?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Speed the system up then, although not helpful if most are guilty and likely to receive a custodial.

It can be done when it suits the powers that be.

Presumably those serving less than 12 months are not guilty of heinous crimes, let them out earlier if needs be.

I think don’t imprison them
Needs a complete rethink and meaningful community penalties for me
Since Covid we’ve known there were huge numbers of cases needing to be tried it’s classic ostrich behaviour and then heaping scorn on someone trying to solve it
Sorry to Rob too for coming over as condescending I don’t mean to

 

[Grendel]

It’s ok no one bad is being released

Action being taken to ensure domestic abuse prisoners not among those released early tomorrow, minister says

About 1,700 prisoners will be released early on Tuesday to try to alleviate overcrowded prisons in England and Wales. Policing minister Dame Diana Johnson says the government has been trying to ensure prisoners who have committed domestic abuse are not among them.

news.sky.com

Oh hold on

Domestic abusers may be among 1,700 prisoners released early, admits minister

Some 1,700 criminals who have only served 40 per cent of their sentence will be let out on Tuesday

www.standard.co.uk

Stop moaning we had to let him out as some people saying bad things on the internet count more as it makes the PM look tough

‘Being told he’ll be released early has left me physically sick’

A woman whose ex-boyfriend threatened to slit her throat says she has had nightmares since learning he will be released early from prison.

www.kentonline.co.uk

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It’s ok no one bad is being released

Action being taken to ensure domestic abuse prisoners not among those released early tomorrow, minister says

About 1,700 prisoners will be released early on Tuesday to try to alleviate overcrowded prisons in England and Wales. Policing minister Dame Diana Johnson says the government has been trying to ensure prisoners who have committed domestic abuse are not among them.

news.sky.com

Oh hold on

Domestic abusers may be among 1,700 prisoners released early, admits minister

Some 1,700 criminals who have only served 40 per cent of their sentence will be let out on Tuesday

www.standard.co.uk

Stop moaning we had to let him out as some people saying bad things on the internet count more as it makes the PM look tough

‘Being told he’ll be released early has left me physically sick’

A woman whose ex-boyfriend threatened to slit her throat says she has had nightmares since learning he will be released early from prison.

www.kentonline.co.uk

Or acting strong nipped the rioting in the bud and avoided more issues.

 

[Grendel]

Or acting strong nipped the rioting in the bud and avoided more issues.

Fine to let dangerous people on the streets then - I’m sure they will not cause any issues

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Fine to let dangerous people on the streets then - I’m sure they will not cause any issues

Tell me within the law what the alternatives are / were?

 

[Grendel]

Tell me within the law what the alternatives are / were?

Keep them in and not showboat and rapidly trial people and put them in prison. It’s total nonsense. Sorry your chum Starmer is responsible - it’s he and he alone who chooses this route

 

[wingy]

Agree with this as long as it’s not free to consume everywhere like in New York.

Like the fags are going to be?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Keep them in and not showboat and rapidly trial people and put them in prison. It’s total nonsense. Sorry your chum Starmer is responsible - it’s he and he alone who chooses this route

You think the riots would have just stopped ok that’s an interesting opinion
Not my chum but I do feel sorry for the position he’s been left in with the prison estate. There are no spaces - it’s not hard to understand or is it???

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Inmate is re-arrested on suspicion of rape SECONDS after being released under Labour scheme Inmate is arrested on suspicion of rape moments after being released via UK Home | Daily Mail Online

 

[Nick]

Inmate is re-arrested on suspicion of rape SECONDS after being released under Labour scheme Inmate is arrested on suspicion of rape moments after being released via UK Home | Daily Mail Online

Yeah but has he posted online?

Why wasn't he arrested and charged while he was in there and kept in?

Obviously he's on bail... Another demographic starmer wants votes from.

 

[MalcSB]

Inmate is re-arrested on suspicion of rape SECONDS after being released under Labour scheme Inmate is arrested on suspicion of rape moments after being released via UK Home | Daily Mail Online

There’s obviously been a great deal of thought put in to who should be released. Not.
What a bunch of wankers this mob are turning out to be.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

There’s obviously been a great deal of thought put in to who should be released. Not.
What a bunch of wankers this mob are turning out to be.

Is this a serious comment ?
You can read who has been released it’s pretty public knowledge although some of the media haven’t got things right

 

[Grendel]

You think the riots would have just stopped ok that’s an interesting opinion
Not my chum but I do feel sorry for the position he’s been left in with the prison estate. There are no spaces - it’s not hard to understand or is it???

He put people into prison in record time

 

[MalcSB]

Is this a serious comment ?
You can read who has been released it’s pretty public knowledge although some of the media haven’t got things right

It is. Context of Releasing people who are immediately re arrested for rape showing how much thought put in to it,

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

He put people into prison in record time

Including the Manchester Airport pair as well to be fair.

Let's check in on them. Oh wait...

 

[Nick]

Is this a serious comment ?
You can read who has been released it’s pretty public knowledge although some of the media haven’t got things right

Some nasty people getting released early.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Some nasty people getting released early.

They are yes

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It is. Context of Releasing people who are immediately re arrested for rape showing how much thought put in to it,

No point discussing it is there. There is no space in our prison estate
These people were being released after 50% of their sentence it’s now 40%

 

[Nick]

No point discussing it is there. There is no space in our prison estate
These people were being released after 50% of their sentence it’s now 40%

They are finding it for social media posts though..

 

[wingy]

They are finding it for social media posts though..

How do you think it can be handled?