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SeaSeeEffCee

SeaSeeEffCee

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Shannerz said:
MvE is a quality right back, but not particularly effective as a wingback.

I like Thomas, he's raw and learning, but has great potential. But you need an experienced player to bring a player like that on, and he doesn't have it.
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MVE has been rubbish this season tbh and I don’t see it at all with Thomas. Good for the odd last ditch tackle but his positioning is as bad as the rest of them and his passing is truly awful.
 
junglej13

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Shannerz said:
I like Thomas, he's raw and learning, but has great potential. But you need an experienced player to bring a player like that on, and he doesn't have it.
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Thomas I almost feel could do with a loan move. He's simply not good enough for us at the minute. With the ball I think he could improve and I can see why we signed him but my main concern with him is he seems incapable of concentrating for 90mins. Every single game he switches off. Not sure that's something that can be coached.
 
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junglej13 said:
Thomas I almost feel could do with a loan move. He's simply not good enough for us at the minute. With the ball I think he could improve and I can see why we signed him but my main concern with him is he seems incapable of concentrating for 90mins. Every single game he switches off. Not sure that's something that can be coached.
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Yet Dasilva and Lati have been much more at fault for goals.
 
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SBT

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junglej13 said:
Thomas I almost feel could do with a loan move. He's simply not good enough for us at the minute. With the ball I think he could improve and I can see why we signed him but my main concern with him is he seems incapable of concentrating for 90mins. Every single game he switches off. Not sure that's something that can be coached.
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I think with an experienced head next to him in the back line then he can be taught. No-one like that in the entire squad at the moment.
 
Sky Blue Goblin

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To be honest, need something to change imo and I hope that the answer could be Liam. Need to see him starting for the cost and ffs he was a captain at Barnsley surely he has some leadership skills.

Start a back four of Milan, Thomas, Kitching, Binks. Have the back four transition to a back three to try and stop conceding silly counters and hopefully have more strength in corners. Latis and Dasilva hight is being focused by opposition way to much when we have a solution
 
JohnWH

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I don't give a shit if we concede 2 goals a game so long as we score 3 goals a game. I want wins and entertainment. Recall the 5-4 thriller v. Sunderland some years ago. It'd be cracking.
 
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Shannerz

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junglej13 said:
Thomas I almost feel could do with a loan move. He's simply not good enough for us at the minute. With the ball I think he could improve and I can see why we signed him but my main concern with him is he seems incapable of concentrating for 90mins. Every single game he switches off. Not sure that's something that can be coached.
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I don't know; I think someone experienced talking him through the game would help him.

Whether it would or not is moot, though, because we don't have anyone like that.
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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One of our most expensive defenders is sat on the bench. People are also overlooking the midfield as well. They're more than complict in many of the goals we concede. Usually by inaction in the build up. Goalkeepers are also all seemingly clown college graduates.

Not taking anything away from the other clowns by the way, or making excuses, it is a joke from top to bottom.

JDS is absolutely shocking. Many of us called this out a while ago and after he had one reasonable game there were screeches for him to play instead of Bidwell. Just utterly bizarre. He gets targeted, and successfully exploited every game. It is a cheat code for the opposition.
 
Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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JohnWH said:
I don't give a shit if we concede 2 goals a game so long as we score 3 goals a game. I want wins and entertainment. Recall the 5-4 thriller v. Sunderland some years ago. It'd be cracking.
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Which isn’t sustainable in the long run. You build from the back first and foremost, if you don’t concede, you cannot lose.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
One of our most expensive defenders is sat on the bench. People are also overlooking the midfield as well. They're more than complict in many of the goals we concede. Usually by inaction in the build up. Goalkeepers are also all seemingly clown college graduates.

Not taking anything away from the other clowns by the way, or making excuses, it is a joke from top to bottom.

JDS is absolutely shocking. Many of us called this out a while ago and after he had one reasonable game there were screeches for him to play instead of Bidwell. Just utterly bizarre. He gets targeted, and successfully exploited every game. It is a cheat code for the opposition.
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Man City's defence is making ours look not that bad lol.
 
Nuskyblue

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JulianDarbyFTW said:
Not sure the defence on its own is the problem. When we turn the ball over during one of our tippy-tappy attacks, our defensive-type midfielders are nowhere to be seen, so the opponents just get to run directly at our defenders who can't handle it. Add to that that all XI shit themselves against a high press, and it's no wonder we concede most weeks. I suspect a few positioning tweaks and a bit of mental fortitude are all we really need.
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I agree, I think if we sort the middle of the park out defence will be better off
 
Sky Blue Goblin

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SeshMouseSkyBlue said:
That’s the problem, they only need to get the shot on target and there’s a good chance it’s going in! Why can we never seem to recruit a decent goalkeeper who can shot stop or even come out his 6 yard box to claim a cross
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To be honest think Dovin has potential as he showed against Bristol but questions have to be asked how they are coached.

Hopefully Frank can have a look into it
 
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SBT

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Sky Blue Goblin said:
To be honest think Dovin has potential as he showed against Bristol but questions have to be asked how they are coached.

Hopefully Frank can have a look into it
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It doesn’t have anything to do with the coaching, they’re just all goalkeepers of similar ability playing in front of a back line that routinely exposes them to soft chances. No amount of keeper coaching is going to change that.
 
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quinn1971

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
One of our most expensive defenders is sat on the bench. People are also overlooking the midfield as well. They're more than complict in many of the goals we concede. Usually by inaction in the build up. Goalkeepers are also all seemingly clown college graduates.

Not taking anything away from the other clowns by the way, or making excuses, it is a joke from top to bottom.

JDS is absolutely shocking. Many of us called this out a while ago and after he had one reasonable game there were screeches for him to play instead of Bidwell. Just utterly bizarre. He gets targeted, and successfully exploited every game. It is a cheat code for the opposition.
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Spot on, eccles was just as at fault for the 2nd goal, but they’re first goal tonight was exactly the same as the first goal Saturday, da silva just switches off, does it all the time, bidwell needs to play left back. we had a back 5 and 2 defensive midfielders, 7 defenders and still can’t defend 😂 genuinely think they get in each others way, they’re not sure who to mark or where to go, embarrasing what we’ve paid for them
 
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SBT

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Fergusons_Beard said:
How the fuck Kitching is not getting a game when it’s a fucking shit show at the back is beyond me.
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Probably because on several occasions he’s been just as bad if not worse

A classic example of a player who gets better and better as long as he’s out of the team for long enough
 
Fergusons_Beard

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And while I’m at it why the fuck can’t any of our defenders head it to a team mate? Ball goes in the air and literally every single time it either goes miles out of play or straight to the opposition. Like they all have fifty pence heads! Ffs.

They’re professional footballers-they literally get paid to head the ball every single day.


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Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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Ccfcisparks said:
Dovin is the keeper who most likely has a future here. Put him in goal and trust him.
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In fairness, he was dropped due to a ‘freak accident’ and Collins didn’t do badly in the games he filled in.

Burnley’s first goal looked like a great move at the first viewing. Replays showed that the ball went through Collins’ wrist. It’s just not good enough.

It’s not Collins fault per se but it’s yet another example of how the defence and GK as whole conceding really naive, basic goals.
 
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