Southport Stabbing (3 Viewers)

Ccfcisparks

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It’s bound to happen at some stage, someone will get to him. That account doesn’t look like it’s to be trusted as a source of factual info, it’s just another racist account that some people seem to like putting up here.
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covcity4life

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Hope the c**t gets filled in. But if we are allowing “black c**t” to be allowed and roaming about on here I’m done
What? Where did this happen!

As for the criminal I hope he rots in hell. Disgusting what he did

And shame on authorities for not chasing up on warnings. The guy was clearly a nut job who still has zero compassion and is obsessed with violence. Psychopath
 

hill83

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What? Where did this happen!

As for the criminal I hope he rots in hell. Disgusting what he did

And shame on authorities for not chasing up on warnings. The guy was clearly a nut job who still has zero compassion and is obsessed with violence. Psychopath

Our local friendly never comments on the football lad Como and his twitter update
 

shmmeee

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You accuse everybody of desperately trying to prove something when you are equally as desperately trying to disprove the same thing.

He was known to the authorities who should and could have surely done something to protect the public. But they didn’.t.

Ive been around on this already. I’m not trying to disprove. I’m pointing out there’s no evidence for what you claim.
 

SBT

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Hope the c**t gets filled in. But if we are allowing “black c**t” (Como’s link) to be allowed and roaming about on here I’m done
Pretty insane that of all the things in the world you could choose to call this guy, the guy in the video still decides to lead off with that
 

Ccfcisparks

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It’s ridiculous that a video spouting racist rhetoric, from a user that has previous is still up 4 hours later. Yet boosh used to get banned after 10 minutes for calling nick fat.
 

Nick

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It’s ridiculous that a video spouting racist rhetoric, from a user that has previous is still up 4 hours later. Yet boosh used to get banned after 10 minutes for calling nick fat.
Let's face it. You didn't report it either and nobody did until hill just has and it's being dealt with now.

It's a lot harder to spot as it's an embedded tweet with the word inside the video as audio...

Let's not bring facts into it though, ay?
 

PVA

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I suppose you could give Como the benefit of the doubt and say he didn't watch/listen to the video before posting it.

But then you have to ask, why the fuck is that appearing on his twitter feed?
 

shmmeee

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You accuse everybody of desperately trying to prove something when you are equally as desperately trying to disprove the same thing.

He was known to the authorities who should and could have surely done something to protect the public. But they didn’.t.

The Police: “We have investigated thousands of pieces of material and there is no clear ideology”

Malc: “I saw some tweets and know better”

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MalcSB

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The Police: “We have investigated thousands of pieces of material and there is no clear ideology”

Malc: “I saw some tweets and know better”

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Twitter seems to be an acceptable source when it suits your dogma driven view.

There is more and more evidence coming out. Prevent, police, mental health services all knew about him and his violent tendencies - published in main stream media.

Don‘t ascribe statements to me that I haven’t made. I’m perfectly capable of coming up with bollocks unassisted. I don’t remember making comments about ideology, what I have said is that he was known to various authorities who really could have acted to take him off the streets.
 

shmmeee

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Twitter seems to be an acceptable source when it suits your dogma driven view.

There is more and more evidence coming out. Prevent, police, mental health services all knew about him and his violent tendencies - published in main stream media.

Don‘t ascribe statements to me that I haven’t made. I’m perfectly capable of coming up with bollocks unassisted. I don’t remember making comments about ideology, what I have said is that he was known to various authorities who really could have acted to take him off the streets.

We’ve been over and over on this. Prevent is for terrorists. He wasn’t a terrorists. He wasn’t on a “watchlist” which was the rumour going around. He’s had run ins with the police. He’d been sentenced and was under the care of multiagency teams at various points. They’re not mind readers, they’re mostly underfunded ans over worked. He was as far as we can tell treated as you’d expect for someone of his age and history. Just because someone is excluded or found with a knife doesn’t mean “he was known to the authorities” as a fucking mass murderer.

The racist bullshit that was spreading on twitter was exactly that. And no I don’t use twitter as a source generally. I’ve been using news reports and government documents. You are desperate for some official to blame, sometimes bad things happen even if everyone tried their best.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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We’ve been over and over on this. Prevent is for terrorists. He wasn’t a terrorists. He wasn’t on a “watchlist” which was the rumour going around. He’s had run ins with the police. He’d been sentenced and was under the care of multiagency teams at various points. They’re not mind readers, they’re mostly underfunded ans over worked. He was as far as we can tell treated as you’d expect for someone of his age and history. Just because someone is excluded or found with a knife doesn’t mean “he was known to the authorities” as a fucking mass murderer.

The racist bullshit that was spreading on twitter was exactly that. And no I don’t use twitter as a source generally. I’ve been using news reports and government documents. You are desperate for some official to blame, sometimes bad things happen even if everyone tried their best.
And it’s clear many did not in this instance
Same with the 14 year old lad who stabbed a 12 year old to death
It’s ok though cause Julie on Facebook group for Coventry citizens and many many others are happy for him to be hung
 

MalcSB

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You are desperate to avoid blaming any official. I expect that if one was blamed, the resultant enquiry would inevitably look up the chain. Who knows where that could end up? Potential to damage the cult Starmer ? How very restrained I was using an “l“ and not an “n”.

Mental Health services now saying they found no evidence to warrant him being held under the Mental Health act. Given the number of mental health patients who are released because the psychiatrists don’t see them as a threat and then go on to commit murder, often multiple murders ( e.g, Nottingham 2 students and a school caretaker), perhaps the thresholds should be reviewed ( taking the blame several steps nearer central government). Or they simply got it wrong, again, and at considerable cost in young lives and families’ anguish.

I doubt the families will ever get over this.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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You are desperate to avoid blaming any official. I expect that if one was blamed, the resultant enquiry would inevitably look up the chain. Who knows where that could end up? Potential to damage the cult Starmer ? How very restrained I was using an “l“ and not an “n”.

Mental Health services now saying they found no evidence to warrant him being held under the Mental Health act. Given the number of mental health patients who are released because the psychiatrists don’t see them as a threat and then go on to commit murder, often multiple murders ( e.g, Nottingham 2 students and a school caretaker), perhaps the thresholds should be reviewed ( taking the blame several steps nearer central government). Or they simply got it wrong, again, and at considerable cost in young lives and families’ anguish.

I doubt the families will ever get over this.
Oh I think there’s no doubt many people got things wrong and that’s got to be the focus rather than blame and prosecution
 

PVA

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You are desperate to avoid blaming any official. I expect that if one was blamed, the resultant enquiry would inevitably look up the chain. Who knows where that could end up? Potential to damage the cult Starmer ?

The notion that there is even a hint of blame on Starmer for this is quite the stretch, even for you Malc!
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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You are desperate to avoid blaming any official. I expect that if one was blamed, the resultant enquiry would inevitably look up the chain. Who knows where that could end up? Potential to damage the cult Starmer ? How very restrained I was using an “l“ and not an “n”.

Mental Health services now saying they found no evidence to warrant him being held under the Mental Health act. Given the number of mental health patients who are released because the psychiatrists don’t see them as a threat and then go on to commit murder, often multiple murders ( e.g, Nottingham 2 students and a school caretaker), perhaps the thresholds should be reviewed ( taking the blame several steps nearer central government). Or they simply got it wrong, again, and at considerable cost in young lives and families’ anguish.

I doubt the families will ever get over this.
At the risk of being rather cynical I suspect any change to said thresholds would be likely to have serious cost implications that are highly unlikely to be prioritised for funding (given the already underfunded state of said services), so it's just not going to happen, even if evidenced as being a good idea (i've no idea if it would be to be honest).
 

Sky Blue Pete

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At the risk of being rather cynical I suspect any change to said thresholds would be likely to have serious cost implications that are highly unlikely to be prioritised for funding (given the already underfunded state of said services), so it's just not going to happen, even if evidenced as being a good idea (i've no idea if it would be to be honest).
Head of security services says it would leave us more vulnerable but WTF does he know
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MalcSB

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The notion that there is even a hint of blame on Starmer for this is quite the stretch, even for you Malc!
I have avoided ( as far as I can remember) commenting on the rumours / theories that somehow Starmer was involved in some aspect of this case as he had represented the parents at some point in the past when they first arrived from Rwanda.

Some on here would defend Starmer if he was found next to the bullet riddled corpse of Mother Theresa with a smoking gun in his hand.

Im pretty sure I have suggested that my starting position with Starmer is to never believe a word he says, especially any inspirational words, fortunately I have never had to put the latter to the test - and probably never will.

Even I shouldn’t be feeling as uneasy about this case and the Manchester Airport case. There is something about them both that smells off.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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More vulnerable than a group of little girls at a dance class?

I wonder what price is being put on people lives here.
Sorry should have clarified as it’s not implicit
He was talking about the terrorist risk to the country
So it’s the country that is more vulnerable to attack if we expand the definition of terrorism which in my opinion should be people who inflict terror on other people
 

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