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Grendel

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Well, his views on Lampard aren’t exactly a secret and this run of form was destroyed that worldview. The meltdown post-Norwich summed it up.

I think some of Paxmans drivel is as bad. Always interesting to see who likes these posts as well

"These are good players. The coaching has been off since it was changed early in the year. Robin's had problems with it and Vivash clearly had issues. You can see players are not sure of their roles. The Vivash/Robin's combination would have continued their good work and had us top six. Where did it go wrong since an FA Cup semi final with the same players? Lampard is not the answer but Doug King wanted to set the club up like a good salesman with huge improvements around the place, track suit wearing coaches and fitness guru's. The problem is you play on a footbal pitch and if you let the players think they just have to turn up then inevitably they are found wanting. Back to basics, with a good manager is what we need and lampard imo will never be it. If you are given a brilliant start after 4 minutes and then even missed easy chances to put the game out of sight then find yourself 4-1 down is a sign of a lack of control and basic coaching ability. Like so many great players they are hopeless coaches. Do we still have Robin's and Vivash's numbers? I see those 27k gates dropping like a stone now...great business King!"

"Just listened to Lampard's press interview. Again what a mess. A word salad from a guy who has nothing to say. The interviewer was leading him along and he fell into it each time. He never once made reference to what they are doing to rectify the last performance, as if he were just filling in the blanks. He may be a nice bloke and a legend to many of us but he does not sound like someone who knows what to do. He just doesn't seem to be in command of anything. You don't just nod and agree with the interviewer on every point? I take no pleasure in having a go at him, but I'm not getting filled with optimism atm."
 

PVA

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Can't really argue with the table since his first game. I was sceptical but willing to give him a chance and have been pleasantly surprised

That's slightly misleading due to having played more games than most of the other teams around us in that table.

The table for the last 15 games has us 5th, which is still very impressive of course (y)
 

nunchuckas

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Can't really argue with the table since his first game. I was sceptical but willing to give him a chance and have been pleasantly surprised

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I'm not trying to discredit Lampard's record, because it is good so far and long may it continue. But last season we did maintain 4 months of 2 points per game, which is an even better ppg record, until the cup run did us over.

Frank won't need to average 2 ppg, but hopefully he can keep the current form going and get us into the playoffs!
 

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TomRad85

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I think some of Paxmans drivel is as bad. Always interesting to see who likes these posts as well

"These are good players. The coaching has been off since it was changed early in the year. Robin's had problems with it and Vivash clearly had issues. You can see players are not sure of their roles. The Vivash/Robin's combination would have continued their good work and had us top six. Where did it go wrong since an FA Cup semi final with the same players? Lampard is not the answer but Doug King wanted to set the club up like a good salesman with huge improvements around the place, track suit wearing coaches and fitness guru's. The problem is you play on a footbal pitch and if you let the players think they just have to turn up then inevitably they are found wanting. Back to basics, with a good manager is what we need and lampard imo will never be it. If you are given a brilliant start after 4 minutes and then even missed easy chances to put the game out of sight then find yourself 4-1 down is a sign of a lack of control and basic coaching ability. Like so many great players they are hopeless coaches. Do we still have Robin's and Vivash's numbers? I see those 27k gates dropping like a stone now...great business King!"

"Just listened to Lampard's press interview. Again what a mess. A word salad from a guy who has nothing to say. The interviewer was leading him along and he fell into it each time. He never once made reference to what they are doing to rectify the last performance, as if he were just filling in the blanks. He may be a nice bloke and a legend to many of us but he does not sound like someone who knows what to do. He just doesn't seem to be in command of anything. You don't just nod and agree with the interviewer on every point? I take no pleasure in having a go at him, but I'm not getting filled with optimism atm."
"A word salad from a guy who has nothing to say" - The irony of this.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I'm not trying to discredit Lampard's record, because it is good so far and long may it continue. But last season we did maintain 4 months of 2 points per game, which is an even better ppg record, until the cup run did us over.

Frank won't need to average 2 ppg, but hopefully he can keep the current form going and get us into the playoffs!

From February onwards we struggled to win games in the league outside of the bottom half teams. We were in the playoffs before Norwich away and we fell off after losing to them, WBA and PNE in quick succession. Every ‘6 pointer’ we played in 2024, we lost.

At the time, many people were grateful we had the Wolves game to avoid playing Hull at home.

Our record against the top half teams last season speaks for itself. We won 4 out of 22 games.
 

Evo1883

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I've always like lampard as a person and ad a player he was tremendous , I was also aware of how clever he is and my main concern was his previous 2 spells in management .

Look I don't care if I'm wrong about somebody , I never expected frank to come here and do well and really he also has the coaches he's got with him to thank.

I'm glad he's doing well , because I'm a coventry city fan

He will have done a good job to finish in the top 10 so the top 6 would be a fantastic job
 

covcity4life

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I think some of Paxmans drivel is as bad. Always interesting to see who likes these posts as well

"These are good players. The coaching has been off since it was changed early in the year. Robin's had problems with it and Vivash clearly had issues. You can see players are not sure of their roles. The Vivash/Robin's combination would have continued their good work and had us top six. Where did it go wrong since an FA Cup semi final with the same players? Lampard is not the answer but Doug King wanted to set the club up like a good salesman with huge improvements around the place, track suit wearing coaches and fitness guru's. The problem is you play on a footbal pitch and if you let the players think they just have to turn up then inevitably they are found wanting. Back to basics, with a good manager is what we need and lampard imo will never be it. If you are given a brilliant start after 4 minutes and then even missed easy chances to put the game out of sight then find yourself 4-1 down is a sign of a lack of control and basic coaching ability. Like so many great players they are hopeless coaches. Do we still have Robin's and Vivash's numbers? I see those 27k gates dropping like a stone now...great business King!"

"Just listened to Lampard's press interview. Again what a mess. A word salad from a guy who has nothing to say. The interviewer was leading him along and he fell into it each time. He never once made reference to what they are doing to rectify the last performance, as if he were just filling in the blanks. He may be a nice bloke and a legend to many of us but he does not sound like someone who knows what to do. He just doesn't seem to be in command of anything. You don't just nod and agree with the interviewer on every point? I take no pleasure in having a go at him, but I'm not getting filled with optimism atm."
Who posted this???
 

shmmeee

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From February onwards we struggled to win games in the league outside of the bottom half teams. We were in the playoffs before Norwich away and we fell off after losing to them, WBA and PNE in quick succession. Every ‘6 pointer’ we played in 2024, we lost.

At the time, many people were grateful we had the Wolves game to avoid playing Hull at home.

Our record against the top half teams last season speaks for itself. We won 4 out of 22 games.

The point is this is what a championship season looks like. Very few teams perform at the same level all season. Every team goes from promotion to relegation form for spells of the season.
 

shmmeee

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Maybe not but as an example west brom picked up 13 points in 13 games between September and December

Blackburn have just won 2 in 11

Boro have just won 3 in 12

That sort of thing

Everyone assumes form never changes. We’re going up now cos we’re in good form, we were going down when we weren’t. Someone said we just need to start quickly but we did that a couple of years ago then bombed. That’s what teams at our level do. The idea there’s some level of form we need to hit from day one is a nonsense unless you’re chasing top four really.
 

Evo1883

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Everyone assumes form never changes. We’re going up now cos we’re in good form, we were going down when we weren’t. Someone said we just need to start quickly but we did that a couple of years ago then bombed. That’s what teams at our level do. The idea there’s some level of form we need to hit from day one is a nonsense unless you’re chasing top four really.
There's the best , the worst and then there's the rest
 

blunted

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Lampard will be judged on where we finish this season with the proviso he was starting from a very low position.
Anything above 9th will have been a brilliant turn around.
Anything below 14th not so good.
 

clint van damme

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It was more the 'every' team part I was questioning. Have any of the top 4 had what we'd consider relegation form this season?

He should have exempted the top 4 but otherwise his post is spot on but a lot of people don't seem to be able to grasp it.

Even the relegation threatened sides hit purple patches.
 

alexccfc99

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I've always like lampard as a person and ad a player he was tremendous , I was also aware of how clever he is and my main concern was his previous 2 spells in management .

Look I don't care if I'm wrong about somebody , I never expected frank to come here and do well and really he also has the coaches he's got with him to thank.

I'm glad he's doing well , because I'm a coventry city fan

He will have done a good job to finish in the top 10 so the top 6 would be a fantastic job
I get this, but I think anyone with even a slight interest in football could surely understand there were massive mitigating circumstances in his last two managerial stints
 

SkyBluePower

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Player I think have improved or recovered form under Lampard:

Dovin
Thomas
Kitching
Rudoni
Simms ( fitter anyway )
Allen

Players who form has stayed the same:
Bidwell
Sakhamoto
Lati
Binks
MVE
Da Silva

Players who have gone backwards under Lampard:
Eccles
Bassette


Not olayed/Too Early to tell
Sheaf
Wright
Rapha
Grimes ( but looks promising)
EMC ( same)
 

clint van damme

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I get this, but I think anyone with even a slight interest in football could surely understand there were massive mitigating circumstances in his last two managerial stints

I think his managerial career up until joining us was poor, but I honestly couldnt care, only interested in what he does here.

If someone could provide a compelling argument that he was very good in his previous appointments it wouldnt alter my mindset, I still only care about what he does here.

And so far it's going pretty well in my opinion.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I think his managerial career up until joining us was poor, but I honestly couldnt care, only interested in what he does here.

If someone could provide a compelling argument that he was very good in his previous appointments it wouldnt alter my mindset, I still only care about what he does here.

And so far it's going pretty well in my opinion.

Personally, I disagree and that argument has been done over and you’re right in saying it’s his record here that’s important…

… my question is, can we all agree he was the best candidate for the job?

RvN, Eustace and Bloomfield have massively struggled in their appointments since Lampard joined.
 

clint van damme

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Personally, I disagree and that argument has been done over and you’re right in saying it’s his record here that’s important…

… my question is, can we all agree he was the best candidate for the job?

RvN, Eustace and Bloomfield have massively struggled in their appointments since Lampard joined.

It's impossible to know what the others would have done but my personal opinion is it would have been difficult to improve on the job he's done so far.
 

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