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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Saw a GB News piece decrying the state of ‘free speech’ in the UK. The last time I checked, people still have the freedom to criticise Keir Starmer and the government. In the US protesting against Israel, never mind Trump, is grounds for arrest or deportation.

If anyone wants to see what attacks on free speech in a former democracy really look like, perhaps they should look there.

The UK and America are quite different in many ways, but I don't think anyone in America is getting deported for just saying something. Surely if there is a protest and it is illegal, that is a crime? I think you are being a bit selective here in your normal morning Trump rants hoping to go unchallenged and followed with some likes. Another 4 years of this? I really think you need to give it a rest or you are going to make yourself ill.

The free speech situation in the UK is an issue. The Southport reaction being a good recent example. It is all going to become even worse with this as well:

Government launches working group on Anti-Muslim Hatred/Islamophobia definition

A new working group has been established to provide government with a working definition of Anti-Muslim Hatred/Islamophobia.

www.gov.uk

 

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[mmttww]

I don't know how anyone can be an apologist for Trump, Musk and anyone that's involved, then call themselves a supporter of our football club. None of this sh*t is funny. Peoples' lives are being ruined.

Founded by factory workers in a city that was destroyed by fascists, grew thanks to different waves of immigration post-war and its biggest cultural export is all based on different races being allies.

but Yeah, let's have a LOL about a misogynistic felon and a South African that chucks up Nazi salutes, disowns his kid and wields chainsaws at public appearances. At least the lefties are rattled.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The UK and America are quite different in many ways, but I don't think anyone in America is getting deported for just saying something. Surely if there is a protest and it is illegal, that is a crime? I think you are being a bit selective here in your normal morning Trump rants hoping to go unchallenged and followed with some likes. Another 4 years of this? I really think you need to give it a rest or you are going to make yourself ill.

The free speech situation in the UK is an issue. The Southport reaction being a good recent example. It is all going to become even worse with this as well:

Government launches working group on Anti-Muslim Hatred/Islamophobia definition

A new working group has been established to provide government with a working definition of Anti-Muslim Hatred/Islamophobia.

www.gov.uk

You caught me red handed. The first thing that crosses my mind when I get up is how to get likes on the SBT Trump thread.

What makes a protest illegal? Why is Trump filing lawsuits against the press and declaring media organisations to be illegal themselves? Free speech in the US is now a myth.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

You caught me red handed. The first thing that crosses my mind when I get up is how to get likes on the SBT Trump thread.

What makes a protest illegal? Why is Trump filing lawsuits against the press and declaring media organisations to be illegal themselves? Free speech in the US is now a myth.

That is what you are doing though.

Every morning when I have my breakfast, I go onto SBT for a bit of light reading. Every morning the Trump thread has been bumped by you. It isn't healthy mate.

Free speech is an issue in many countries these days, and it is politically motivated much of the time. I don't understand why it is only on certain topics that trigger certain people. You either have free speech, or you don't.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That is what you are doing though.

Every morning when I have my breakfast, I go onto SBT for a bit of light reading. Every morning the Trump thread has been bumped by you. It isn't healthy mate.

Free speech is an issue in many countries these days, and it is politically motivated much of the time. I don't understand why it is only on certain topics that trigger certain people. You either have free speech, or you don't.

Literally once in the last week dude.

 

[chiefdave]

Trump it seems now bans people from the country if they don’t like him

In the last couple of months I've been seeing a number of British acts be refused entry to the US despite having all the correct work permits and visas for their tour. In most cases they are people who have entered the USA for work purposes on a regular basis in the past, in some cases they have been doing so for decades.

The common denominator? They are all people who have made multiple posts against Trump on twitter.

You want to think it can't possibly be that and the President of the USA can't be that petty but it seems to be the only thing that links people who have previously had no issues.

 

[shmmeee]

Which would be hilarious if it wasn’t worrying. What a weird country we live in

We’re generally a country that doesn’t like bullies

 

[PVA]

Barron is a genius

 

[SBT]

The UK and America are quite different in many ways, but I don't think anyone in America is getting deported for just saying something. Surely if there is a protest and it is illegal, that is a crime?

The issue isn’t so much whether immigrants can be deported for committing crimes (although there are obviously legal rights that apply depending on the crime and immigrant status) as it is about the lack of due process afforded those who are accused.

As for “getting deported for just saying something”, let’s see how this story develops:

Scientist 'denied entry to US' after messages critical of Trump found on his phone

The unnamed researcher was on his way to a conference being held near Houston when he was subjected to a random check and his work computer and personal phone searched on 9 March, according to French media.

news.sky.com

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I don't know how anyone can be an apologist for Trump, Musk and anyone that's involved, then call themselves a supporter of our football club. None of this sh*t is funny. Peoples' lives are being ruined.

Founded by factory workers in a city that was destroyed by fascists, grew thanks to different waves of immigration post-war and its biggest cultural export is all based on different races being allies.

but Yeah, let's have a LOL about a misogynistic felon and a South African that chucks up Nazi salutes, disowns his kid and wields chainsaws at public appearances. At least the lefties are rattled.

Don’t forget
Trump has 90% approval rating with republicans and 4% from democrats

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The issue isn’t so much whether immigrants can be deported for committing crimes (although there are obviously legal rights that apply depending on the crime and immigrant status) as it is about the lack of due process afforded those who are accused.

As for “getting deported for just saying something”, let’s see how this story develops:

Scientist 'denied entry to US' after messages critical of Trump found on his phone

The unnamed researcher was on his way to a conference being held near Houston when he was subjected to a random check and his work computer and personal phone searched on 9 March, according to French media.

news.sky.com

The chap at Columbia who they’re trying to deport over Israel protests they freely admit has not committed a crime. He has done nothing illegal, just protested against a war criminal.

 

[SBT]

The chap at Columbia who they’re trying to deport over Israel protests they freely admit has not committed a crime. He has done nothing illegal, just protested against a war criminal.

Let’s call it what it is - “if the government says a protest is illegal then it must be a crime” is absolute cuck mentality.

 

[Sick Boy]

Come on bro, what’s a few Sieg Heils between friends bro?

*bruh.

 

[Sick Boy]

Let’s call it what it is - “if the government says a protest is illegal then it must be a crime” is absolute cuck mentality.

Trump and Musk supporters are some of the biggest cucks on the planet.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The chap at Columbia who they’re trying to deport over Israel protests they freely admit has not committed a crime. He has done nothing illegal, just protested against a war criminal.

I would have a bit more time for some of you on this thread, including the very obvious alt accounts, if you applied the same attitude across the board.

 

[SBT]

I would have a bit more time for some of you on this thread, including the very obvious alt accounts, if you applied the same attitude across the board.

This is quite an odd position for a supposed free speech absolutist to take.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Trump and Musk supporters are some of the biggest cucks on the planet.

I agree. Generally anyone that is in the hardcore of any political faction probably needs their head checking in all honesty, but some of these guys, especially the Musk ones are weird as fuck. Can't forgrt about the hardcore leftists either though. Some severe absence of testosterone there!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I would have a bit more time for some of you on this thread, including the very obvious alt accounts, if you applied the same attitude across the board.

You will not find me arguing for anyone to be arrested for protesting in favour of right wing causes. Nor would you find me arguing for the likes of GB News or the Mail to be shut down because I disagree with their politics.

I find their coverage abhorrent but will always argue for their right to express it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Let’s call it what it is - “if the government says a protest is illegal then it must be a crime” is absolute cuck mentality.

People were arrested in this country for protesting against the monarchy during Charles’ coronation events. Curiously the free speech champions at GB News went MIA for that.

 

[Flying Fokker]

People were arrested in this country for protesting against the monarchy during Charles’ coronation events. Curiously the free speech champions at GB News went MIA for that.

It was just a tad disrespectful…But clearly a great day to get noticed.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It was just a tad disrespectful…But clearly a great day to get noticed.

Disrespectful to some, but not illegal.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Getting children to applaud the scrapping of their Education Dept.

 

[Flying Fokker]

He has a cunning plan.

'I love King Charles': Trump makes jaw-dropping hint as he says US could become 'associate member' of Commonwealth

Donald Trump has stunned the world yet again after he has indicated he would accept an offer from King Charles to join the British Commonwealth.

www.lbc.co.uk

 

[chiefdave]

He has a cunning plan.

'I love King Charles': Trump makes jaw-dropping hint as he says US could become 'associate member' of Commonwealth

Donald Trump has stunned the world yet again after he has indicated he would accept an offer from King Charles to join the British Commonwealth.

www.lbc.co.uk

That's the Commonwealth games fucked then

 

[Nuskyblue]

Trump sure does love surrounding himself with sex offenders.

We're White House boys,
We're on a bender,
Better watch out we're all sex offenders.

 

[CCFCSteve]

We’re generally a country that doesn’t like bullies

I think Musk is an ego manic (and a bit weird - on the spectrum) but if anyone thinks he’s comparable to Putin there’s no hope. Sums up this country and elsewhere in the west…. certain people are willing to set fire/damage random peoples cars (abroad, not here I hope) but you don’t hear a peep from them when it comes to the real, cruel totalitarian regimes/dictators. It’s weird

It’s like half the kids thinking having a dictator in charge might be preferable to a
Democracy. What world are people living in ?! WTF are they reading and being taught ?

 

[shmmeee]

I think Musk is an ego manic (and a bit weird - on the spectrum) but if anyone thinks he’s comparable to Putin there’s no hope. Sums up this country and elsewhere in the west…. certain people are willing to set fire/damage random peoples cars (abroad, not here I hope) but you don’t hear a peep from them when it comes to the real, cruel totalitarian regimes/dictators. It’s weird

It’s like half the kids thinking having a dictator in charge might be preferable to a
Democracy. What world are people living in ?! WTF are they reading and being taught ?

You can dislike someone for entirely different reasons. I’m not sure you can say because someone is disliked as much opinions are the same. Princeton Andrew is the other down there. Musk, him and Putin all for different reasons but all roughly equally disliked.

 

[CCFCSteve]

You can dislike someone for entirely different reasons. I’m not sure you can say because someone is disliked as much opinions are the same. Princeton Andrew is the other down there. Musk, him and Putin all for different reasons but all roughly equally disliked.

How can someone be disliked as much as a murdering dictator, that has sent hundreds of thousands of his own citizens to death/serious injury and that has stolen kids from their homeland though ?! Nobody can convince me it’s not weird reflection of the strange world we now live in.

 

[Sick Boy]

How can someone be disliked as much as a murdering dictato, that has sent hundreds of thousands of his own citizens to death/serious injury and that has stolen kids from their homeland though ?! Nobody can convince me it’s not weird reflection of the strange world we now live in.

Musk is part of a government that’s essentially supporting, funding and that has casually proposed something resembling ethic cleansing.

 

[RegTheDonk]

That's the Commonwealth games fucked then

The plan is they could afford to host them!

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

How can someone be disliked as much as a murdering dictator, that has sent hundreds of thousands of his own citizens to death/serious injury and that has stolen kids from their homeland though ?! Nobody can convince me it’s not weird reflection of the strange world we now live in.

Trump is deliberately targetting causing pain and suffering to groups and religions he dislikes. His support for Israel and Russia too surely enough to maybe maybe change your mindset? Whilst not quite on the same path as Putin you can dislike both and their evil motivations equally. Farage and Musk too .

 

[CCFCSteve]

Trump is deliberately targetting causing pain and suffering to groups and religions he dislikes. His support for Israel and Russia too surely enough to maybe maybe change your mindset? Whilst not quite on the same path as Putin you can dislike both and their evil motivations equally. Farage and Musk too .

I was talking about Musk v Putin. Even so I’d struggle to argue Trump is currently anywhere near Putin either (even if I do think is a crazy narcissist )

 

[Otis]

Honestly, where does Trump get these people from?


BBC News - Trump envoy dismisses Starmer plan for Ukraine

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff dismisses Starmer plan for Ukraine

Steve Witkoff says the UK plans for an international force to support a ceasefire are a "posture".

www.bbc.com

Putin is not a bad guy? And he likes him?

Ukraine is a false country?



Unbelievable really isn't it

 

[fatso]

People were arrested in this country for protesting against the monarchy during Charles’ coronation events. Curiously the free speech champions at GB News went MIA for that.

There's a huge difference between protesting peacefully, and doing so in a place that's directly going to cause a breach of the peace.

For example, that lad who shouted abuse at Prince Andrew during the Queens funeral procession, he was very quickly silenced and ejected, and quite rightly so.
And we all know Prince Andrew is a "wrong un" but there's a time and a place.

In short, you DO have the right to peaceful protest, but you DO NOT have the right to decide when and where to protest.
The police have a duty to protect life and property and that will take precedent.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

There's a huge difference between protesting peacefully, and doing so in a place that's directly going to cause a breach of the peace.

For example, that lad who shouted abuse at Prince Andrew during the Queens funeral procession, he was very quickly silenced and ejected, and quite rightly so.
And we all know Prince Andrew is a "wrong un" but there's a time and a place.

Protests don’t have to be peaceful to be
Lawful