Match Thread Sheffield United - Coventry City Match Thread - Friday 28th Mar (7 Viewers)
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You’re saying fans are upset with him because he didn’t move until a club was actually interested in signing him?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Just like Gyokeres - and yet!
Brighton Sky Blue
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I find it odd that a player telling us he doesn’t want to be here anymore is now a display of honourable virtue (as if Hamer and O’Hare’s motivations weren’t also completely transparent, and were monetised by the club to the maximum extent possible). But again - however people want to rationalise it.
chiefdave
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That's exactly it isn't it? Gus and Vik both wanted to play at a higher level. Vik was good enough that he immediately got an offer to go, or already had something lined up before the end of the season, where Gus was left waiting as the offers weren't flooding in.
The longer that went on people started thinking he might end up staying. When he finally went the season had already started which gave people the idea that he'd had the club over and not left us time to get a replacement in.
Don't think it's anymore complicated than that.
covcity4life
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Yet you are struggling
Brighton Sky Blue
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Of course I am.
It’s people telling themselves stories about good players moving to better teams for more money.
eyesee
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i think it's pretty clear that coh thought a prem club would come in for him. when that didn't happen he had to pick the best offer on the table. it just happens to have been from a club that are doing well.
if they do get promoted i've no idea how he'll get on. gus is a prem player, coh i'm not so sure.
i don't hate the guy, he's just another mercenary player that the current system has created. but his departure felt more selfish that gus and vik because we were left with nothing having paid his wages when he was out for so long. bound to leave some bad feeling.
if they do get promoted i've no idea how he'll get on. gus is a prem player, coh i'm not so sure.
i don't hate the guy, he's just another mercenary player that the current system has created. but his departure felt more selfish that gus and vik because we were left with nothing having paid his wages when he was out for so long. bound to leave some bad feeling.
Grendel
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You say hamer is a premier league player but clubs established in the league seem to not show much interest
eyesee
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yeah, good point.
i think he's good enough. but it doesn't help that any player moving into the prem with a newly promoted team will likely spend the whole season struggling. the gap between the 2 leagues is as big as ever.
covcity4life
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It's only one season tbf and a biunceback one at that. Will agree with you if sheff utd don't go up and no one comes in for him next year
lord_garrincha
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I was going to say that Prem clubs undertake due diligence but it's out in the open that he does not live the life.
At that level, those little things matter.
robbiekeane
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we got him on a free…not like we spent millions on him then he left
also we could’ve offered him a deal when he fucked his knee but we didn’t we waited. which is fine and probably the risk averse thing to do but it’s business
Brighton Sky Blue
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I agree, which is one of many reasons I didn't boo him on Friday. But you're going to have a hard time getting your average fan not to when a fan favourite leaves on a free to a divisional rival.
for some reason I always thought Fulham would have been a good club for him, but like others they weren’t interested, I reckon he’ll have one more go with sheff Utd then he’ll be off abroad, strange if he’s that good been nowhere near the Dutch team ?
JohnWH
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I didn't get a chance to post since half time on Friday.
I thought we would put up more of a fight.
Hamer's goal was very good, maybe sucked the wind out of our sails for the rest of the game which then got away from us.
I hadn't yet had a chance to read about Dovin's injury.
Thought Rudoni's goal was good.
Hope everyone had a pleasant enough weekend otherwise.
I thought we would put up more of a fight.
Hamer's goal was very good, maybe sucked the wind out of our sails for the rest of the game which then got away from us.
I hadn't yet had a chance to read about Dovin's injury.
Thought Rudoni's goal was good.
Hope everyone had a pleasant enough weekend otherwise.
Shannerz
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Not a mercenary, but the most driven. Which is part of the reason why his career will reach heights that Hamer's won't.
I love Vik, probably more than Hamer. It was always obvious that he'd move on (possibly even if we'd have gone up), but it was also clear playing for us meant a lot to him, too. When they did that video (which wasn't as staged as the Hamer one) when he left, he looked genuinely emotional.
I know it doesn't really mean a lot in the scheme of things, but I wish he'd have won a fans' player of the year award, too. He and Hamer deserved one each.
He's a player I hope always receives a warm welcome whenever he comes back.
fernandopartridge
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Yet despite that he came across far better in his farewell video
blunted
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Disagree, one of their players mis kicked in front of goal when he should have scored, Cannon shot weakly when he should have put Hamer through who was unmarked and Cannon was too slow and got caught up when he was way clear. Apart from that, for 15 minutes in the middle of the second half, they were all over us and should have capitalised. We blocked so many shots that on another day would have flew in. Watch the whole match back (not just the highlights). It wasn't as bad as Leeds at home who should have had a cricket score.
Attacking top 3 clubs with some PL quality players has been suicidal so far.
Interesting to see how we do things against Burnley.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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In terms of technical ability I think he is - not absolutely top level but mid table certainly. But it goes beyond that at that level and fitness is also absolutely critical. Hamer not having the self-discipline in regards to his diet is going to put off a lot of suitors, and beyond that they will wonder if he can't be disciplined in that area maybe he won't be disciplined in others.
baldy
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Yeah but we'd obviously have different players if we went up?
baldy
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So what you're saying is we need a new centre-back
JAM See
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I've had a few drinks, so excuse me...
But what exactly does "The Black..." as an introduction to a sentence mean?
As a woke, pinko, Guardian reading snowflake I'd love to have a nice cuddle (over an oatmilk latte) and discuss why you're such a lazy racist cunting twat.
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skyblue025
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Grealish didn't when he left Villa. He signed a new contract so they could get top dollar for him.
robbiekeane
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my point is it’s stupid and the reaction is idiotic. your point seems to be the people with those reactions are idiots
i think we are agreeing?
alexccfc99
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I value honesty
I can accept us being used as a stepping stone to bigger and better things and would much rather be told how it is, as we were in the case of Gyokeres as opposed to Hamer and O'Hare prancing about in Samoan Joe's or in a Sky Blue Wig telling the fans how much they love it here and how it is the best club to play for in the world and what not
Footballers apart from a very few notable exceptions are always going to chase the bag, at least be honest about it, don't try and bullshit people
alexccfc99
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He did an interview right after he signed for them cry-arseing about Robins dropping him from the side at the back end of last season
Conveniently forgetting that he was out of form, scuffed a chance to score in a shoot out to get us to an FA Cup final and made it abundantly clear that he was not going to be signing a new contract
It was disrespectful to Robins and burned his bridges here as far as I am concerned
Grendel
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Where is that interview?
Frostie
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Like Dublin did for us & his reward was to be booed, called a Judas & have people wishing him a broken neck. Footy fans eh.
nunchuckas
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The difference with Vik is clear, he went to a top European side, playing European football, with potential to win trophies (and with him, they did - won the league) and play in the Champions League. It was a clear and obvious step up. Also, he's gone to the right place to prove himself and ensure his next move will be to a massive team - Arsenal should have signed him last summer.
Gus went to the second worst premier team of all time, playing turgid football. He still managed to get something like 5 goals and 7 assists at that level in a dog shit team, but it isn't the clear and obvious step up he would have wanted, and that we all thought he deserved - if he was going to go. It's a shame he didn't go to a better side, I think he would have fared much better in a better side playing good football, and none of us, except the most bitter, could complain if he had gone to a Fulham, Brighton, Brentford etc. I certainly think he is good enough to do so, and would have a better platform to showcase his considerable talent.
We still got good money for both, arguable the most we could have given their contract situations. But the perceived lack of a clear step up for Gus and Cal are what makes it more aggravating, throw in the nature of O'Hare's departure, and you can understand the grievances some fans have with him. Albeit harsh when Gus is still mostly lauded, and did kind of the same but different in terms of how they left. Although Hamer's contribution to the club is borderline legend status, he singlehandedly dragged us to and through those playoffs at the end of that season when Vik was playing through injury, and had he not gone off injured, I think anyone who was in the ground felt we were going to win that in normal time, let alone ET.
Gus went to the second worst premier team of all time, playing turgid football. He still managed to get something like 5 goals and 7 assists at that level in a dog shit team, but it isn't the clear and obvious step up he would have wanted, and that we all thought he deserved - if he was going to go. It's a shame he didn't go to a better side, I think he would have fared much better in a better side playing good football, and none of us, except the most bitter, could complain if he had gone to a Fulham, Brighton, Brentford etc. I certainly think he is good enough to do so, and would have a better platform to showcase his considerable talent.
We still got good money for both, arguable the most we could have given their contract situations. But the perceived lack of a clear step up for Gus and Cal are what makes it more aggravating, throw in the nature of O'Hare's departure, and you can understand the grievances some fans have with him. Albeit harsh when Gus is still mostly lauded, and did kind of the same but different in terms of how they left. Although Hamer's contribution to the club is borderline legend status, he singlehandedly dragged us to and through those playoffs at the end of that season when Vik was playing through injury, and had he not gone off injured, I think anyone who was in the ground felt we were going to win that in normal time, let alone ET.