Mucca Mad Boys
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Felt like 5-6 minutes in real time.
This is easily solved with a stopclock. Play-on unless it’s a serious injury and let physios treat the players on the pitch.
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Felt like 5-6 minutes in real time.
This is easily solved with a stopclock. Play-on unless it’s a serious injury and let physios treat the players on the pitch.
Otis
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If was quite surreal. He was so pedantic about some things, but then just let other things go.
Like I said previously, he was so picky about players gaining yards from some throw-ins, but then let other throw-in takers to steal as much as 10 yards when they took theirs.
He was all over the place. No consistency at all in his decision making.
Domo
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we only had one yellow, and that was for pato!
Adge
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Yep-you beat me to it. Carl Baker,Chris Birchall and Peter Vincenti are others who have taken up the whistle. This nonsense about ex players would make better referees is just that. If anything it makes the job more difficult as they have to adjust and look at the game from a different perspective.
Just to clarify, James Bell and Gavin Ward had poor games.
The amount of times he could have/should have booked Bramall in the first half (going through Torp from behind, pulling Tats back on the wing when he was going past him etc) and then doesn't book him until the 92nd minute speaks volumes about how crap/inconsistent he was
Londonccfcfan
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I went for a piss. Drank a pint come back up Torp was still on the floor.
Went back down had another piss. Come back up and he was being stretchered off.
3 mins added time. Disgracefull.
He should be held accountable.
Sorry just had enough of shit refs this season.
Go as far and say he wasnt just incompetent. He was borderline cheat.
Terry Gibson's perm
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I waited for a bit saw that it was going to be a while went for a piss and got back to my seat before it kicked back off, if all that took three minutes I did well
Great_Expectations
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Sakamoto being dragged down at a corner. His shirt was nearly pulled off his back, it was so blatant.
And when their CB stopped MVE (I think) taking a quick throw by essentially nudging him over.
And when their CB stopped MVE (I think) taking a quick throw by essentially nudging him over.
In the interests of balance Sheaf took out one of their players on the wing quite late on and we got the throw in. He was just plain useless.
Same in the 2nd half. Two fake head injuries, 8 subs and he warned them 3 times for time wasting yet we only get 4 mins again. In the end worked out well.
ovduk78
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Are the referees assessed and if so who does it? He missed loads last night so surely he gets a poor assessment and some action is taken. As for the Burnley referee now that FL has a misconduct charge is the panel that hears the charge shown video evidence of how bad he was or do they just take the referee's word & find FL guilty?
Balli001
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If the charge is for the language used then i suspect he could only argue against it if he didnt say it. Whether he was justified saying it would be irrelevant
I guess if FL appeals then they have to look into the evidance.
Aren't the refs mic'd up?
Balli001
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Yes but all that proves is what he said. If he did use foul language then he gets banned irrelevant of how accurate it is
Johhny Blue
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If the charge is for abusing an official the ref’s performance is irrelevant.
Nick
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Depends what they define as abuse.
ovduk78
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If he told the referee that he was "fucking shit" then FL wasn't wrong was he?
robbiethemole
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What’s needed is for more high profile managers ike Frank to have the balls to stand up to the refs and FA and call out shit performances.
It might be the only way we will get those in charge to review the games and admit refs are fucking up on a regular basis. How else are standards going to improve otherwise?
It might be the only way we will get those in charge to review the games and admit refs are fucking up on a regular basis. How else are standards going to improve otherwise?
What suggestion would we put forward to improve the quality of officiating in the league?
Time keeping needs to be taken off the ref. 40 minutes of ball in play on a stop clock like Rugby.
I'd like the decision making process to include all officials rather than the refs judgement. On Saturday when Milan got booked the 4th official and lino were much better placed to make a decision than the ref.
I wouldn't mind the 5th and 6th officials behind each goal as well, if it meant we didn't have VAR in the champ. You'd say that this week they'd have seen Hajis offside goal (bad for us but correct decision), and been able to make the correct call on the handball. Even if they don't add more value than that, it's 2 game altering decisions which would be correct.
Time keeping needs to be taken off the ref. 40 minutes of ball in play on a stop clock like Rugby.
I'd like the decision making process to include all officials rather than the refs judgement. On Saturday when Milan got booked the 4th official and lino were much better placed to make a decision than the ref.
I wouldn't mind the 5th and 6th officials behind each goal as well, if it meant we didn't have VAR in the champ. You'd say that this week they'd have seen Hajis offside goal (bad for us but correct decision), and been able to make the correct call on the handball. Even if they don't add more value than that, it's 2 game altering decisions which would be correct.
Sky Blue Goblin
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First punt would be the 22/23 (Qatar World Cup?) added on time again. Following through with time wasting rules currently in place (Keeper holding on and players kicking away the ball).
Semi-Automated offside technology. VAR is debatable because it’s clearly not great as it just adds another wally behind a computer screen but some of the decisions are so bafflingly obvious I don’t know what else to do.
Nick
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Make refs responsible, put them in front of cameras after to explain their decisions afterwards. ie ask why he didn't deem it a handball against Portsmouth. If he says he didn't see it, why didn't he see it and did the lino see it? if he didn't see it either, how did they both miss it when the ground saw it.
It's far too easy for a ref to go out, ruin a game and nobody can say anything else they get in trouble. It's easy to have all of the "respect the ref" stuff but when the refs are absolutely dog shit then why would people?
robbiethemole
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It looks like the ref from Rangers game last night is being sanctioned, that’s what needs to happen in the domestic game imo
Nick
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what did he do? Whats the sanction?
robbiethemole
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Fucked on red/ yellow card, missed penalty or given wrong I’m not sure but dropped from all European games
Mcbean
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Probably get sent to the English championship
robbiethemole
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Google Rangers ref, it’s a shitshow from him!
TomRad85
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Employ better refs from abroad. Our football is full of foreign players that have lifted it to another level, do the same with the refs if the ones we are producing aren't good enough.
Shannerz
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I want to avoid instances like the FA Cup semi at all costs.
When you have a law like offside, then there is no subjectivity, as you are either off, or you are on. But when you bring technology into it, you are giving decisions where it is so marginal that it does not matter; millimetres.
You can say that if the margin is so tiny, that they are functionally level. No advantage is gained, and it does not serve the interests of the game to be pedantic over such irrelevant margins.
I assume that a semi-automated technology would do this?
VAR use for offside is one of the worst applications of it in the game. If you're going to use it, use it like the rest; to overturn obvious errors.
Sky Blue Goblin
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Was used in the World Cup.
Semi-automated offside: What is it and how does it work? - BBC Sport
How does the semi-automated offside system work?
www.bbc.com
Nick
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The issue with VAR is again the inconsistency.
In one game, they will check an offside but will spend 10 minutes, then go back to check for fouls in the lead up to try their hardest to disallow it, showing 100 different views.
In another game, same situation but they just give it without really checking.
In one game, they will check an offside but will spend 10 minutes, then go back to check for fouls in the lead up to try their hardest to disallow it, showing 100 different views.
In another game, same situation but they just give it without really checking.
shmmeee
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Back to post Qatar injury time, all handled by the fourth official.
Dissent and cheating board to meet each week and give retrospective yellows for diving, feigning injury, etc.
Pay refs more, train them more, expect more, maybe mike them up or give interviews.
Where it works bring in tech for ball out of play/goal/offside, etc.
Fuck VAR into the sun.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Stop the goalie sitting down and clamp down all their time wasting behaviour, and goal kicks to be taken on the side they went out