win9nut - finally a non-rabid defence of the trust and a rational question (something the other representatives of the trust clearly seem either unwilling or unable to provide)
My problem with the trust - and would indeed be any such organisation, is by fair means or foul they are currently in a potential position to be a real force within the club. Had I such a position, there is not a chance on god's good earth I wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail for the survival of the club.
Yet all you have to do is look at the responses to a reasonable question - you would have thought I would have asked them to do the impossible! Certain members CLAIM they have already refused to deal with sisu, but if you analyse the rhetoric this group has produced over the recent weeks, it most definitely hasn't severed all ties with sisu, indeed it went to great lengths to state categorically they would be HAPPY to talk to them.
Let's not forget this is the SAME sisu that has systematically run down the club, incurred (allegedly) inordinate debt levels within the club and their spokesperson Tim Fisher has gone on public record stating they intend to take the club out of the city! All of these should in all genuine fans invoke fury. This is our club not sisu's. Now if you are in a position to speak up for a group as opposed to an individual, you have access to the local media outlets, and I think its fair to say the vasty majority of fans, then surely it is a no brainer that you use that support to take positive actions - be it protest marches (their first attempt was a bit of a damp squib, which I suppose is why the leadership will never try that again!)
There are so many things that could be done - (Why for instance didn't the trust have a petition rather than wait for a belated one from the telegraph?). It is utterly inexplicable that with such a mandate they are doing absolutely nothing.
And WHY have a go at the administrator and ACL in public, yet NOT hold sisu to the same scrutiny? Surely they would be the FIRST group to deserve probing questions - yet they are strangely quiescent on that. And what happens when you ask these questions? The drones rather than providing a rational reasoned argument (probably because there is NO excuse for such inactivity on their parts - I raised similar points to all parties concerned and it took me just over an hour, so basically all the trust has done is spend an hour on e-mails throughout this debacle!)
Now this would be fine if they were doing whatever it is for free, but they aren't are they! They are charging for membership. Now if you charge for something, if only a nominal amount, then surely as a member you would expect the trust to be able to doing more than an ex-serviceman is doing single handedly wouldn't you?
So if I am doing everything I would expect of such a group, then isn't it reasonable to say that they are failing not only their membership, but the club they CLAIM to be fighting for! After all if I can do it, then WHY can't they. And as for talking to them, I have pretty much stated what I feel they could and indeed should be doing, yet has ANY SINGLE MEMBER of the trust answer ANY of my questions? They have sent a tirade of abuse (wow that stings), but if I were part of this group and not a single person can defend their actions with a rational well-thought out argument, then it is pretty reasonable to suggest that not only are they NOT doing what they should, but quite possibly they are simply incapable and unfit for purpose. Don't forget this group ALREADY folded once through disagreements - is THIS why they are incapable of affirmative actions?
As for negotiations with TF, the time has LONG since past where talks were possible. From day one sisu have been utterly intransigent and haven't budged one inch from their demands from when they started the rent strike. Also they have reneged on verbally agreed payments, which cut a considerable chunk out of the costs. So as pointless as it would be talking to the trust - have no doubt it would descend into chaos even if I was prepared to talk to these people, similarly it is utterly futile to talk to sisu.
Therefore you are left with the inevitable conclusion, that if they will not listen to reasoned arguments, then the ONLY course of action is precisely that - action. And when you consider their stated goal right from the get go was a last resort, it seems utterly impertinent for them to then say they wish to broker talks, when they have gone on the record and attacked ACL, they have attacked the Administrator, they have even criticised the council (be it individuals and or the trust as an entity), but have gone to great lengths to avoid rocking the boat with sisu.
This seems utterly futile. Because can the trust honestly say that by doing so it has persuaded sisu to see things their way? Surely history tells us that such acts of appeasement will not, have never and will never work when you are dealing with anyone that is not prepared to conceded any point!
You agree with me that the trust SHOULD be gunning for sisu, but they seem sanguine and complacent enough simply to send e-mails to the WRONG people! And as far as I am concerned the trust are not acting in the best interests of the long term future of the club, and as such if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem. And I will fight anyone, individual, group, player manager that is doing harm to my club. Maybe that I wont succeed, but if you aren't prepared to stand up for your club - then what is the point?
By their in-actions the trust has become an irrelevant moribund organisation. Sure they will get press, but it is utterly facile and is NOT helping the club - which when all said and done is precisely what they are saying the want!
