Springsteen at the (ACL) Ricoh (8 Viewers)

[skybluegaz2]

All you SISU morons who claim ACL couldn't organise a ***** in a brewery, eat your words ! THIS is why SISU are sooooo desperate to get their hands on the Ricoh.
ACL stand firm - no deals with crooks !!!!! No way does ACL need twopencehalfpenny rent from SISU when they can fill the Ricoh with their own events - 4 concerts a year is probably worth more than 20 x SISU's rent "offer/demand". :claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:

 

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[sky blue zam]

All you SISU morons who claim ACL couldn't organise a ***** in a brewery, eat your words ! THIS is why SISU are sooooo desperate to get their hands on the Ricoh.
ACL stand firm - no deals with crooks !!!!! No way does ACL need twopencehalfpenny rent from SISU when they can fill the Ricoh with their own events - 4 concerts a year is probably worth more than 20 x SISU's rent "offer/demand". :claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:

agreed and as special and as great as highfield road was, coventry would never ever get acts like the boss, oasis, muse, chilli peppers, bonjovi etc without the ricoh

 

[pusbccfc]

agreed and as special and as great as highfield road was, coventry would never ever get acts like the boss, oasis, muse, chilli peppers, bonjovi etc without the ricoh

or the Olympics.

 

[ajsccfc]

So just who are these 'SISU morons' who are claiming that ACL couldn't organise an event in a venue that's hosted these kind of events for years now?

 

[_brian_]

So just who are these 'SISU morons' who are claiming that ACL couldn't organise an event in a venue that's hosted these kind of events for years now?

If you need to ask that question then you obviously don't know, mate! Some people!

 

[LastGarrison]

Just posted about this in Off Topic.

What a quality gig. No trouble getting in and out, no trouble getting beer or food, sensible stewarding, plenty of public transport before and after and a buzzing atmosphere.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

D'you know why this forum is a joke...'SISU morons'. Not that there are such a thing as SISU morons...they're people who have different views to you. Get over it.

Labelling people (who have EXACTLY the same wish as you do - success for CCFC) morons, actually makes you a bit of a plank yourself. This is a forum, people debate things and people have different opinions and if you people disagree with your own thoughts, don't deride them. Accept it like an adult.

With regards to your point, 4 concerts a year (and that's probably a max), wouldn't keep ACL afloat. Why do you think acts like Muse, Springsteen, Coldplay tour as much as they do? Maybe because they make the majority of their money from touring whilst illegal downloading on songs is on the increase?!

Oh, and venues have to pay to have acts perform at their venues. There more I think of it, ACL are very much reliant on a football club using the stadium.

WM

 

[Stevearcade]

Yeah, I imagine these type of events would bring in a reasonable income and just about keep the arena afloat financially. And add that to the match day revenues it would be a good money earner and the combined incomes would significantly help build a stronger football team. We need one owner of club and stadium. I'm past caring who it is, just as long as it's done and then we can get back to the football and with the extra money available from revenue streams, hopefully get promoted.

But, what is the likelihood of that happening any time soon

 

[Black6Osprey]

All you SISU morons who claim ACL couldn't organise a ***** in a brewery, eat your words ! THIS is why SISU are sooooo desperate to get their hands on the Ricoh.
ACL stand firm - no deals with crooks !!!!! No way does ACL need twopencehalfpenny rent from SISU when they can fill the Ricoh with their own events - 4 concerts a year is probably worth more than 20 x SISU's rent "offer/demand". :claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:

I think you may be over estimating the profits from 4 concerts per year.

NEC made just £3m profit in 2012 from all their music concerts combined. They vast majority of their profit (another £30m) came from exhibitions and conferencing.

 

[chiefdave]

All you SISU morons who claim ACL couldn't organise a ***** in a brewery, eat your words ! THIS is why SISU are sooooo desperate to get their hands on the Ricoh.
ACL stand firm - no deals with crooks !!!!! No way does ACL need twopencehalfpenny rent from SISU when they can fill the Ricoh with their own events - 4 concerts a year is probably worth more than 20 x SISU's rent "offer/demand". :claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:

Or they could have a football team playing 20 plus times a year and as many concerts as they want in the close season (which is when stadium bands are touring) like other stadiums do. Why should it be one or the other?

Besides that you would struggle to get 4 stadium shows a year, especially since Villa Park has had a refurb and is marketing themselves for those shows. These size events rely a lot on casual fans and agents are careful not to over saturate a single market.

 

[chiefdave]

I think you may be over estimating the profits from 4 concerts per year.

NEC made just £3m profit in 2012 from all their music concerts combined. They vast majority of their profit (another £30m) came from exhibitions and conferencing.

It would be a flat fee to hire the stadium, for that ACL would be expected to provide some services such as stewarding, local crew etc. The hire fee is probably a lot lower than you would expect as there are way more stadiums wanting these events than there are shows to fill them. The areas they can then profit are things such as car parking and the famous F&B revenues that Tim is always on about. ACL see very little, if anything, from ticket sales, merchandise etc. A lot of venues make additional renveue by selling on services such as merchandise sellers but I doubt ACL have enough events to have people like that working for them.

That's one of the reasons places like the O2 and NEC run their own ticketing agencies, gives them a source of renvenue through booking fees.

 

[torchomatic]

Hopefully they can persuade him to visit 23 times a year.

All you SISU morons who claim ACL couldn't organise a ***** in a brewery, eat your words ! THIS is why SISU are sooooo desperate to get their hands on the Ricoh.
ACL stand firm - no deals with crooks !!!!! No way does ACL need twopencehalfpenny rent from SISU when they can fill the Ricoh with their own events - 4 concerts a year is probably worth more than 20 x SISU's rent "offer/demand". :claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:

 

[covmark]

All you SISU morons who claim ACL couldn't organise a ***** in a brewery, eat your words ! THIS is why SISU are sooooo desperate to get their hands on the Ricoh.
ACL stand firm - no deals with crooks !!!!! No way does ACL need twopencehalfpenny rent from SISU when they can fill the Ricoh with their own events - 4 concerts a year is probably worth more than 20 x SISU's rent "offer/demand". :claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:

The biggest moron on here is you pal, with your stadium management company obsession, go and get yourself an ACL replica top and an ACL season ticket. Plank

 

[ajsccfc]

Prince did 21 nights at the o2 over the space of two months. ACL, if you can get him over to play the Ricoh on all 'home' matchdays I'll sign up as an official ACL bumlicker rentboy ARE YOU PWKH IN DISGUISE apologist.

 

[Grendel]

Yes it's fantastic - here are some reviews;

"Parking very limited near to stadium, had to use park and ride that cost £20 to park on a rugby pitch. Trying to return to my car had a scrum of people trying to get onto the few buses that were running. Nobody to guide you to the place where your bus would come. Will probably not return there again to be ripped off!"

"Whoever designed that stadium/car parking areas obviously has never driven a car nor attended a concert. Very poor road design to exit the vast quantity of cars. The marshalls there were not bad in that they got things moving (when they could) but they were let down by the layout architects who were evidently short on any decent amount of synaptic activity"

"as for the Ricoh Arean it was rubbish not the facilities just the non-management of the event it was pathetic.
Stewards who turned a blind eye to Smoking all over the arena including the concourse's, blocked staircases/entrance/access points dangerous bottlenecks were common place with a serious risk of a major crush at any moment.."

Looks like we need a new management company

 

[Deleted member 5849]

agreed and as special and as great as highfield road was, coventry would never ever get acts like the boss, oasis, muse, chilli peppers, bonjovi etc without the ricoh

We signed off with Elton John.

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Hopefully they can persuade him to visit 23 times a year.

Why would he need to? What's the revenue difference bewteen a large concert and a third tier football game?

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Yes it's fantastic - here are some reviews;

"Parking very limited near to stadium, had to use park and ride that cost £20 to park on a rugby pitch. Trying to return to my car had a scrum of people trying to get onto the few buses that were running. Nobody to guide you to the place where your bus would come. Will probably not return there again to be ripped off!"

"Whoever designed that stadium/car parking areas obviously has never driven a car nor attended a concert. Very poor road design to exit the vast quantity of cars. The marshalls there were not bad in that they got things moving (when they could) but they were let down by the layout architects who were evidently short on any decent amount of synaptic activity"

"as for the Ricoh Arean it was rubbish not the facilities just the non-management of the event it was pathetic.
Stewards who turned a blind eye to Smoking all over the arena including the concourse's, blocked staircases/entrance/access points dangerous bottlenecks were common place with a serious risk of a major crush at any moment.."

Looks like we need a new management company

Do you know, it's actually sad that you must trawl all the reviews; zealously and joyfully extracting anything bad. I can think of no other words. It's genuinely sad

 

[Grendel]

We signed off with Elton John.

I've seen REM at the City Ground

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I've seen REM at the City Ground

My sympathies.

Doubly so.

 

[ajsccfc]

I've enjoyed some REM at the Ricoh when Boothroyd was in charge! Hiyo!

 

[Grendel]

Do you know, it's actually sad that you must trawl all the reviews; zealously and joyfully extracting anything bad. I can think of no other words. It's genuinely sad

Trawl - it took 10 seconds - It's an average venue no more and no less and the notion its any better is misguided. What is sad is some idiot claiming to be a football supporter coming onto a supporters forum and bigging up a third rate management company who have helped get us where we are today. Without football the place will be totally irrelevant to 99% of the local population 365 days a year.

 

[fernandopartridge]

All you SISU morons who claim ACL couldn't organise a ***** in a brewery, eat your words ! THIS is why SISU are sooooo desperate to get their hands on the Ricoh.
ACL stand firm - no deals with crooks !!!!! No way does ACL need twopencehalfpenny rent from SISU when they can fill the Ricoh with their own events - 4 concerts a year is probably worth more than 20 x SISU's rent "offer/demand". :claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:

You do realise that ACL merely provide use of the facilities. The Springsteen gig would be run in its entirety by an events management company, it merely needs ACL to open the doors.

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Trawl - it took 10 seconds - It's an average venue no more and no less and the notion its any better is misguided. What is sad is some idiot claiming to be a football supporter coming onto a supporters forum and bigging up a third rate management company who have helped get us where we are today. Without football the place will be totally irrelevant to 99% of the local population 365 days a year.

Helped us get where we are today? Imagine SISU has paid no rent. Would you like that? No rent whatsoever. That would make a difference of £5m.

The administrator was dealing with debts of £70m. So, the rent is 7%.

Why don't you save your misguided, misinformed and crass castigation for the parties responsible for the 93%?

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

You do realise that ACL merely provide use of the facilities. The Springsteen gig would be run in its entirety by an events management company, it merely needs ACL to open the doors.

Are you saying that some of Grendel's criticism - that of organisation and logistics - was therefore nothing to do with ACL if it was managed by someone else?

 

[Evo1883]

i used to work for an events company and set up a gig at the arena ,ACL don't really do a lot TBH ,we did the flooring staging and lighting ,So im not quite sure why this thread is of some amazement as my little sister could set up a gig at the ricoh tbh

 

[fernandopartridge]

Are you saying that some of Grendel's criticism - that of organisation and logistics - was therefore nothing to do with ACL if it was managed by someone else?

Can't blame ACL for some of the flaws in the infrastructure around the stadium, it's the Council's fault.

 

[torchomatic]

Equally as sad as those that tell us what ACL could do to make money once the club they support leave. Or those that provide figures supporting their argument. Or those who hope "ACL take us to the cleaners" or "refuse to let CCFC play there".

There's bitterness regardless of your viewpoint and really it's all a little much now, isn't it? I hope when it's finally sorted that threads like this disappear.

Do you know, it's actually sad that you must trawl all the reviews; zealously and joyfully extracting anything bad. I can think of no other words. It's genuinely sad

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Can't blame ACL for some of the flaws in the infrastructure around the stadium, it's the Council's fault.

Maybe if Fisher carries through his crazed notion to moving to somewhere new; they'll continue to invest to improve infastructure to support non-CCFC releted events with bigger crowds?

To date, some flaky, unlawful tenants maybe haven't helped the argument for further local investment, eh?

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Open question all: Have the Red Hot Chilli Peppers played at the RICOH!? I was hoping they play there but I think I seen someone on here said they had played their, I'd be gutted if I don't get to see them live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpX91HCUGTQ

 

[LastGarrison]

Yes it's fantastic - here are some reviews;

"Parking very limited near to stadium, had to use park and ride that cost £20 to park on a rugby pitch. Trying to return to my car had a scrum of people trying to get onto the few buses that were running. Nobody to guide you to the place where your bus would come. Will probably not return there again to be ripped off!"

"Whoever designed that stadium/car parking areas obviously has never driven a car nor attended a concert. Very poor road design to exit the vast quantity of cars. The marshalls there were not bad in that they got things moving (when they could) but they were let down by the layout architects who were evidently short on any decent amount of synaptic activity"

"as for the Ricoh Arean it was rubbish not the facilities just the non-management of the event it was pathetic.
Stewards who turned a blind eye to Smoking all over the arena including the concourse's, blocked staircases/entrance/access points dangerous bottlenecks were common place with a serious risk of a major crush at any moment.."

Looks like we need a new management company

There will always be dissatisfied people at any event of this size and you also have to take into account the crowd last night was of a more mature nature.

From someone who was there and who has attended a few gigs and events around the country at various venues I thought it ran very well.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

I doubt Compass would be too impressed with a handful of gigs per year....

...In fact they will probably demand a rather large refund from ACL due to the massive drop in business....

...which would put ACL even further up financial shit street.....

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

I did my apprenticeship at Dunlop on the Holbrooks Lane; so I know the area well. In my youth, it was a dump. Really a mess. An eyesore.

When I watch the Olympics there now; or David Cup tennis, or high-profile rugby games; as a Coventrian, I am proud. I cannot - simply cannot - understand how anyone from this often-knocked city cannot be so.

Likewise, if you'd have told me as a kid that Coventry would host acts of the renown of Springsteen, Coldplay, Muse, the Chilli Peppers et al; I'd have laughed in your face. Entertainment of that spectre in Coventry? Impossible.

The Ricoh is not the San Siro. It is not the O2; but I tell you what, it's a damn sight better than anything I honestly thought would exist in Coventry.

Look on TripAdvisor: http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUs...a-Coventry_West_Midlands_England.html#REVIEWS

First three reviews:

'We caught a shuttle bus from the train station to a Muse concert there, and there were dozens of them for the return journey. The venue is well organised, with plenty of food and drinks outlets and the toilets only ever had a small queue. Drinks are expensive, as expected, but at least they had plenty in stock! Visited May 2013'

'We came to the Ricoh in May to see the wonderful Muse as part of their UK stadium tour. It was my first time at a football stadium and my friend actually said to me "for your first stadium it's not a bad choice" and I agree.
Plenty of toilets, plenty of food (Altho I myself didn't buy any) and the seats are comfy. The only negative is the traffic and roads getting out afterwards but that's hardly the Ricoh's fault. Visited May 2013'

'Liked the Casino open in the complex. We arrived after midnight and was glad we could get a beer or two before going to bed in the De Vere which was next to the Casino. Even the staff within the Casino building were happy and very helpful. Well Done. and the Coventry ambassadors who worked on the Saturday we saw were very welcoming. Well Done Coventry !!! You are the best. Visited April 2013'

Those who derive joy from it's shortcomings frankly astonish me. And doubtless would be the first to whinge if it were atthe other end of the M69, or elsewhere for that matter

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Equally as sad as those that tell us what ACL could do to make money once the club they support leave. Or those that provide figures supporting their argument. Or those who hope "ACL take us to the cleaners" or "refuse to let CCFC play there".

There's bitterness regardless of your viewpoint and really it's all a little much now, isn't it? I hope when it's finally sorted that threads like this disappear.

Come off it, you know full well that is usually in response to someone saying "well lets see how ACL cope without their anchor tenant, shall we?".

 

[torchomatic]

Sometimes it is. Sometimes it isn't. There are plenty of threads and posts trying to score points from either viewpoint. For every "ACL couldn't do without us" post/thread there'll be one saying "ACL could do without us".

To be honest, it's got to the point where I don't care either way anymore. I'll just be pleased when we run out at the Ricoh on 10th August.

Come off it, you know full well that is usually in response to someone saying "well lets see how ACL cope without their anchor tenant, shall we?".