Mark Robins at the game last night (3 Viewers)

[skybluelee]

My point entirely, MR didn't have a clue in knowing how to adapt when McGoldrick left and he certainly didn't get the best out of Clarke who was also scoring goals for fun at lowly Scunthorpe.

Clarke scored for fun here as well but hardly played under Robins.

Robins has been a success at every club he's managed. People have short memories.

 

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[Astute]

It don't matter who he went to see. It does matter on how the young lads did though. They have grown up quickly since he left.

 

[standupforcity]

Pressley is a greater inspiration to the team than Robins ever was....Robins was McGoldrick....Pressley is a team of inspired young players who understand how to play as a team...a team playing for someone it's a pleasure to work with...

 

[skybluebeduff]

He's after Leon Clarke and Carl Baker, they fit the bill for what his team are missing so...

 

[Gint11]

Clarke scored for fun here as well but hardly played under Robins.

Robins has been a success at every club he's managed. People have short memories.

Depends on what you consider Success

 

[covcity4life]

I'd love to punch that c**t directly on the nose

i have no anger towards him any more because i feel like ccfc are much stronger with pressley, robins did us a favour int he end.

which is crazy because everyone loved robins.

 

[fernandopartridge]

If Robins had anything about him at all or even an internet connection, he would have known too. The man fucked us over.

He's a weak man. Pressley has come in, had nothing like the backing from the board but has risen above it and motivated a young team into what is really a better position than that c**t ever did.

 

[covcity4life]

yeh,robins may be judas but he was a good manager for us and it was not just mcg who had us on fire.

 

[fernandopartridge]

You seriously underestimate the impact of a manager if you think our form was because of McG, rather than MR, it's a very naive viewpoint, because if what you're saying is true, then Thorn or Shaw would've got exactly the same results with McG? Rubbish. Secondly, considering McG got 1 assist (in the league), how did Baker go on a similar goal rampage in the November-December period!? MR was so much more influential than McG, firstly for McG, the system suited him, McG came out and publicly praised his methods, MR signed players which strengthened the squad, Moussa, Bailey, Adams (3 of the 4 we had to keep on in January). The manager is responsible for everything that goes on durning the match, team talks, individual roles, MR was the main reason we did well, without a doubt. Perhaps he could've done better and probably would've had he'd had the summer transfer window, because Thorn was just plain wasteful with out resources.

For those who listen to the Nii Lamptey show, they worked out if you wiped all of McG's goals, we'd only lose 9 points. Case closed.

Only 9 points - not brilliant then without McGoldrick, probably would have been hovering just above the relegation zone.

Even after McG, we were still picking up points and Clarke was scoring goals for us, from January, to late Feb (after SP's 1st game so about 6-7 weeks), he scored 8 goals and was on course to smash his Scunny record, had his injury not kept him out, so on Leon Clarke, you don't know what you're talking about.

Erm, Robins started at the club with McGoldrick but took a while to get going. Had a good run but then poor defeats at home to some mediocre teams.

 

[ExmouthNeil]

Just my 2p's worth....

I don't think Robins will be in a position to buy any of our player in the January transfer window because if Huddersfield's results continue he'll get the sack.:laugh:

 

[The Penguin]

He's a weak man. Pressley has come in, had nothing like the backing from the board but has risen above it and motivated a young team into what is really a better position than that c**t ever did.

By all accounts it's not just a better position, but the quality of the football is better too.

 

[skybluelee]

If Robins had anything about him at all or even an internet connection, he would have known too. The man fucked us over.

So you knew at the time of Robins' appointment that SISU were about to stop paying the rent and potentially put the future of the club in doubt?

 

[skybluelee]

Interesting that people aren't saying 'the main reason for SP's success is Wilson*' or some other ridiculous notion - cue one twat.

*Who is, alongside Clarke, both on course for beating McG's goal tally of 16 (?) by 1/1/14.

Good point, well made.

 

[fernandopartridge]

These types of threads show how fickle people are, if I was MR, I would've took the job at Huddersfield, off-field aside, 3x his salary, with a team a league above, I was bitter when he left, but, now, you have accept that it was logical for him, where's the loyalty. Robins if he loses 10 games in a row? We'd want him sacked.

What you have to remember, that the one, and only thing SP had to his advantage over Robins, was preseason, where you could work on things like fitness and tactics, players like Moussa last season, had no preseason.

I'd rather have SP as manager, what he has achieved so far was unreal, I thought we had the team for playoffs, but needed to add players, but he's got lares who people doubted (Wilson, Daniels) and they have performed admirably, he's got these players performing near the top of the ability, but this set of players will only get better (bar Baker and Webster) and that is a scary thought for the other teams in the league! I find it amusing to see the idiots who were calling for SP's head are now his biggest fans. Moral of the story: when Fergie rates a manager, he knows what he's talking about.

Interesting that people aren't saying 'the main reason for SP's success is Wilson*' or some other ridiculous notion - cue one twat.

*Who is, alongside Clarke, both on course for beating McG's goal tally of 16 (?) by 1/1/14.

These type of threads show that 34 years on from her becoming Prime Minister, Thatcher's legacy lives on.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Excuse me...?

What?

 

[kg82]

These types of threads show how fickle people are, if I was MR, I would've took the job at Huddersfield, off-field aside, 3x his salary, with a team a league above, I was bitter when he left, but, now, you have accept that it was logical for him, where's the loyalty. Robins if he loses 10 games in a row? We'd want him sacked.

You think it's strange for people to hold a grudge over MR saying he basically pissed sky blue and then walked out at the first sniff of a job?! Get real. You can come out with all your stats and reasoning but at the end of the day he screwed us. I won't forget it and I'm sure a lot of others won't.

 

[ajsccfc]

So you knew at the time of Robins' appointment that SISU were about to stop paying the rent and potentially put the future of the club in doubt?

All we've had for years is that SISU are going to ruin the club, sell everybody, strip assets and so on. Way before Mark Robins showed up. He'd have to be either naive or stupid to not be aware of either their reputation or recent history before signing up.

As a manager he uplifted the club and was doing quite well (I don't believe that he was lucky thanks to McGoldrick so much as McGoldrick excelling in a team Robins put out), but he lied about his feeling for the club days before walking out. If he said nothing and merely took the better offer, all the best. His two-week blood transfusion though, fuck him in the ear.

I don't care if his stance places him directly in opposition to the owners, he fucked us over at the same time.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Mark Robins did well for the club and helped us build again, but with all due respect he left and for many (Including me) it left a sour taste in the mouth, but Steven Pressley, what a choice by Steve Waggott! At least we have a man now who is building what he believes to be something special, has moved his family to Coventry to maintain focus for his job and has played for us previously, that's not even considering the results that Steven Pressley has managed to achieve this season with a young squad, with barely any budget and having to deal with the atmosphere that has built round up the club, people will start looking at Steven Pressley that is almost guaranteed, but I have faith that in comparison with Mark Robins that Steven Pressley will see his project through to the end and Judas saw us as a stepping stone.

 

[kg82]

Why hold a grudge? His successor is out-performing him, with considerably less backing. I want him to fail Huddersfield, always have done, but I don't blame him for taking a better job, when he has no reason to be loyal to us, but the 'sky blue blood' quote made

For me, it's done and dusted, over, we have SP, who's using the youth academy to it's max, got the team scoring for fun and has got team selection totally right so far. CCFC are in a better state (on-field!) and that's all I care about. MR didn't 'screw us', suggest he left us in a worse state, he left a good squad, and his successor is doing better than him, it looks like we've got a decent deal out of his departure, tbh.

Actually, the 'fickle' part was aimed at people saying 'it's because of McG' before he left, the only one who said that was psgm1, because if the circumstances he left, it's been 'legitimised' by a handful of wrong people. :facepalm:

Is that how you a think a grudge works?! Just because someone comes in that is, so far, doing a better job all should be forgiven?! So say a girlfriend says she loves you. The day after she cheats on you and then dumps you and starts going out with this guy. You get a new girlfriend and it's going well. Do you a) forgive the cheater completely or b) still hate her because she fucked you over?

I didn't say anything about fickle or mcg. I agree with you on that one.

 

[covcity4life]

yeh robins deserves hate, i only agree with taylor regarding his management qualities.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Robins surreal manager tbh, he just left a sinking ship and at the end of the day that's football for you. Also those who say, 'oh robins benefitted from all McGoldricks goals' well has Pressley won a game without Clarkey or Wilson starting, without their goals where would we be? Fuck knows, fact is we'll never know, people are just bitter that he got a better opportunity from a team in a higher division. This alone prevents people from realising that he was one of, if not the best manager we've had since 87 and he would have got us promoted to. Not to say SP won't PUSB

 

[ajsccfc]

Nobody's bitter about him getting the opportunity. It's the deceitful manner in which he took it.

 

[covcity4life]

The relationship between a manager and a club isn't the same, for MR, managing CCFC was a job, just like managing HTFC, and opportunities come and go, and frankly, you've got to take them, Huddersfield have a better team, in a better league, on x3 his wages, the opportunity was probably too good to turn down, especially given the board couldn't give him assurances. I haven't forgiven him but I don't really care about it now, it's football, it's the nature of the business. I'd have a long list of people I hate if I held onto every negative feeling I've felt towards a manager or player, and considering I'm younger than most people on here, the list for you older lot would be double mine. You move on in life.

everyone has moved on,but fact is robins is always going to be remembered for the sky blue veins bullshit he fed us just days before leaving.

 

[kg82]

The relationship between a manager and a club isn't the same, for MR, managing CCFC was a job, just like managing HTFC, and opportunities come and go, and frankly, you've got to take them, Huddersfield have a better team, in a better league, on x3 his wages, the opportunity was probably too good to turn down, especially given the board couldn't give him assurances. I haven't forgiven him but I don't really care about it now, it's football, it's the nature of the business. I'd have a long list of people I hate if I held onto every negative feeling I've felt towards a manager or player, and considering I'm younger than most people on here, the list for you older lot would be double mine. You move on in life.

So you haven't forgiven him yet you're arguing against that? Everyone's moved on, the argument was lots of us haven't forgiven him and won't for the way he went about it. I don't think anybody stews over it everyday! And yet you've just agreed with me about not forgiving him. The reason we're debating this is because he was at the game. Nobody would've said anything if he hasn't been there.

 

[hill83]

Not sure why this has turned into a debate about his managerial skills. He did well for us. I still don't like him though. Where as Thorn was total pony, but I still like him.

Edit: it's probably more don't dislike Thorn rather than still like him.

 

[Astute]

The relationship between a manager and a club isn't the same, for MR, managing CCFC was a job, just like managing HTFC, and opportunities come and go, and frankly, you've got to take them, Huddersfield have a better team, in a better league, on x3 his wages, the opportunity was probably too good to turn down, especially given the board couldn't give him assurances. I haven't forgiven him but I don't really care about it now, it's football, it's the nature of the business. I'd have a long list of people I hate if I held onto every negative feeling I've felt towards a manager or player, and considering I'm younger than most people on here, the list for you older lot would be double mine. You move on in life.

Move on in life?

We have ex players that have done much more for our club. They have more or less been forced out of our club and some have hatred for them. Dion Dublin for instance. He signed a new contract when he didn't have to. Then he got sold. All of us that saw him play know he gave everything in every game. And for much longer than MR was with us. He was a striker that even played in defence at times. Yet is hated by some. What he did was refuse to play for the ones that sold him. And will never be forgiven by some. One day MR was saying all the right things and then left. I don't hate him for what he did. He is just another ex manager of ours. One I wouldn't want back.