IF there is a new ground built........ (7 Viewers)

[Nick]

It's not in Coventry though. It would be the same as the FA knocking down Wembley and building a new stadium in Gretna.

Don't you think common sense should be used rather than an invisible line?

 

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[lewys33]

Does that mean you would say Baginton is outside of Coventry too? As well as Coventry airport?

Is Birmingham airport "technically" in Birmingham? There is no point in ridiculous and irrelevant questions. Like I said if you dont use the Coventry border as the "line" where should this "line" be?

 

[valiant15]

Not this you have to live in Cov to support cov bullshit again? I live outside of Cov but closer to the Ricoh than most?

Did i say you have to live in Coventry to support the team?

I appreciate the people from Warwickshire who support the club but they're not going to have the emotional attachments to the city/club connection like us cov kids are they.

Read it again before jumping down my throat you mug.

 

[CJ_covblaze]

Does that mean you would say Baginton is outside of Coventry too? As well as Coventry airport?

Is Birmingham airport "technically" in Birmingham? There is no point in ridiculous and irrelevant questions. Like I said if you dont use the Coventry border as the "line" where should this "line" be?

Spot on Lewis. Using the airport as an example is a bit pointless.

London Stansted
London Gatwick
London Oxford
London Southend
London Luton
London Lydd

 

[bigfatronssba]

Not this you have to live in Cov to support cov bullshit again? I live outside of Cov but closer to the Ricoh than most?

Of course you don't have to live in the city to support them, no club could survive purely on the support of a city as small as Coventry.

However I do detect some (a very small minority it must be said) from outside the city who just don't get the link between the city and the club. They just see the football club as a team to support.

I must stress though, fortunately most outside the city do understand it.

 

[Nick]

I just think it should be based on common sense. It is up to individuals if they class it as Coventry. If it is slightly outside what the council say their boundary is then I'm not fussed.

If people really would refuse to support "Coventry City" because it was slightly outside the council border then I guess it would be a bit petty if in a case of it being where the Ricoh is now or just down at where Makro was.

 

[CJ_covblaze]

I just think it should be based on common sense. It is up to individuals if they class it as Coventry. If it is slightly outside what the council say their boundary is then I'm not fussed.

If people really would refuse to support "Coventry City" because it was slightly outside the council border then I guess it would be a bit petty.

Playing a yard/100 yards/a mile over the border is a bit petty too.

 

[covcity4life]

i wonde rif we will get any definitive news on ricoh return before december?

 

[valiant15]

I just think it should be based on common sense. It is up to individuals if they class it as Coventry. If it is slightly outside what the council say their boundary is then I'm not fussed.

If people really would refuse to support "Coventry City" because it was slightly outside the council border then I guess it would be a bit petty if in a case of it being where the Ricoh is now or just down at where Makro was.

But the ricoh IS in Coventry ffs.

 

[Nick]

Playing a yard/100 yards/a mile over the border is a bit petty too.

Not if they have no choice as there is nowhere else to build one?

If there were plenty of alternative sites inside the border and planning permission would be granted and SISU chose not to out of spite then yes it would be petty.

 

[Nick]

But the ricoh IS in Coventry ffs.

But if it was 500 yards down the road would you have stopped supporting the club?

 

[CJ_covblaze]

Not if they have no choice as there is nowhere else to build one?

If there were plenty of alternative sites inside the border and planning permission would be granted and SISU chose not to out of spite then yes it would be petty.

They don't need to. There's a stadium in Coventry they can use.

 

[valiant15]

But if it was 500 yards down the road would you have stopped supporting the club?

Probably not.But theres no chance ill travel to a stadium 8/9 miles away.

 

[lewys33]

Not if they have no choice as there is nowhere else to build one?

If there were plenty of alternative sites inside the border and planning permission would be granted and SISU chose not to out of spite then yes it would be petty.

Why don't they buy somewhere in Coventry then? If the council refuse to give planning permission it gives people another reason to hate the council!

Or of course they could play in the stadium that is already in Coventry .......

 

[bigfatronssba]

But if it was 500 yards down the road would you have stopped supporting the club?

The building of the Ricoh was a different situation. That was about trying to progress the club (admittedly its been a disaster).

Any future ground will be built on the basis that Joy Seppala doesn't like Coventry Council. I don't really see why we as a city should be robbed of our football club potentially for the next 100 years because of her.

If the stupid bitch doesn't like Coventry Council she shouldn't have bought a business in Coventry should she?

 

[Nick]

Probably not.But theres no chance ill travel to a stadium 8/9 miles away.

In which case I wouldn't blame you, we would just need to wait and see if anything is even being planned or built and if so where and then judge.

 

[Manchester_sky_blue]

I just think it should be based on common sense. It is up to individuals if they class it as Coventry. If it is slightly outside what the council say their boundary is then I'm not fussed.

If people really would refuse to support "Coventry City" because it was slightly outside the council border then I guess it would be a bit petty if in a case of it being where the Ricoh is now or just down at where Makro was.

Really struggling to understand your position Nick. The city boundary is not some ethereal line, its a properly defined boundary and if we were to play permanently outside of that boundary then we could no longer call ourselves Coventry City - more than that we would no longer BE Coventry City. The club would become something else and its history and connection with the City that spawned it would be lost.

If we genuinely cannot return to the Ricoh (and i firmly believe that we will go back there at some point) then the only acceptable alternative is a new ground within the City boundary.

 

[covcity4life]

The building of the Ricoh was a different situation. That was about trying to progress the club (admittedly its been a disaster).

Any future ground will be built on the basis that Joy Seppala doesn't like Coventry Council. I don't really see why we as a city should be robbed of our football club potentially for the next 100 years because of her.

If the stupid bitch doesn't like Coventry Council she shouldn't have bought a business in Coventry should she?

no part of you resents councils for being dicks? not one part?

fuck me both sides are dicks,why ar epeople taking sides.

 

[andyboy81]

no part of you resents councils for being dicks? not one part?

fuck me both sides are dicks,why ar epeople taking sides.

That is without a doubt the most sensible comment on this thread

 

[bigfatronssba]

no part of you resents councils for being dicks? not one part?

fuck me both sides are dicks,why ar epeople taking sides.

Well I don't want to get into a debate about which side is right, but there is pretty much nothing the council could have done to excuse sisu moving the club 34 miles away.

What they have done is unforgivable.

 

[CJ_covblaze]

no part of you resents councils for being dicks? not one part?

fuck me both sides are dicks,why ar epeople taking sides.

Maybe people feel like it due to one side saying the club can play there whereas the other side won't entertain the idea.

 

[Nick]

If we genuinely cannot return to the Ricoh (and i firmly believe that we will go back there at some point) then the only acceptable alternative is a new ground within the City boundary.

I totally agree and if there were viable sites and the council would give planning permission but SISU decided not to to take us miles away then I could see the point.

Grimsby Town are still called Grimsby even if they play just outside aren't they?

 

[steveo1987]

Did i say you have to live in Coventry to support the team?

I appreciate the people from Warwickshire who support the club but they're not going to have the emotional attachments to the city/club connection like us cov kids are they.

Read it again before jumping down my throat you mug.

I would be interested to see how many city fans travel from outside of Coventry. I would say it's a high figure in relative terms .20-30%??

 

[Covlad65]

Just a few facts for those wingeing about playing just outside the border:

Manchester united play in Stretford......Just outside the city!
Grimsby Town play in Cleethorpes.........Outside the City!
Nottingham forest play in the town of West Bridgford...Just outside the city!
Bolton Wanderers play in the neighbouring town of Horwich....just outside the city!

So people wake up!....we are not the first club it has happened to and if we do end up in a new stadium just outside the City and I mean just outside....so what!!!...we still have our proud club and if you don't like it don't GO!

 

[Manchester_sky_blue]

I totally agree and if there were viable sites and the council would give planning permission but SISU decided not to to take us miles away then I could see the point.

Grimsby Town are still called Grimsby even if they play just outside aren't they?

They are but entirely wrongly in my view and they have lost some of their fan base as a result.

 

[CJ_covblaze]

I would be interested to see how many city fans travel from outside of Coventry. I would say it's a high figure in relative terms .20-30%??

You're probably not far off. I'd imagine it's roughly the same for all clubs.

 

[lewys33]

Maybe people feel like it due to one side saying the club can play there whereas the other side won't entertain the idea.

CJ be careful you don't start the whole "WE NEED TO OWN THE FREEHOLD!" argument .........

I would be interested to see how many city fans travel from outside of Coventry. I would say it's a high figure in relative terms .20-30%??

Is that relevant?

I totally agree and if there were viable sites and the council would give planning permission but SISU decided not to to take us miles away then I could see the point.

Why are there no viable sites?

 

[bigfatronssba]

Just a few facts for those wingeing about playing just outside the border:

Manchester united play in Stretford......Just outside the city!
Grimsby Town play in Cleethorpes.........Outside the City!
Nottingham forest play in the town of West Bridgford...Just outside the city!
Bolton Wanderers play in the neighbouring town of Horwich....just outside the city!

So people wake up!....we are not the first club it has happened to and if we do end up in a new stadium just outside the City and I mean just outside....so what!!!...we still have our proud club and if you don't like it don't GO!

The difference is all those clubs play within their conurbation.

Coventry has very clear defined boundaries. There is no "Greater Coventry" so to speak. Pretty much all of our urban area lies within the city.

 

[Nick]

CJ be careful you don't start the whole "WE NEED TO OWN THE FREEHOLD!" argument .........



Is that relevant?



Why are there no viable sites?

I'm not saying there are or aren't. I also don't know about the planning permission side but if there was the option of a good site and planning permission was granted closer to the city centre then of course it would be better.

 

[lewys33]

Just a few facts for those wingeing about playing just outside the border:

Manchester united play in Stretford......Just outside the city!
Grimsby Town play in Cleethorpes.........Outside the City!
Nottingham forest play in the town of West Bridgford...Just outside the city!
Bolton Wanderers play in the neighbouring town of Horwich....just outside the city!

So people wake up!....we are not the first club it has happened to and if we do end up in a new stadium just outside the City and I mean just outside....so what!!!...we still have our proud club and if you don't like it don't GO!

Would be interesting to know how long all of the above have played in their specific locations. Are we talking decades of history to then be moved or are we talking they have been there the whole time? Coventry City isn't just a name ........

 

[steveo1987]

CJ be careful you don't start the whole "WE NEED TO OWN THE FREEHOLD!" argument .........



Is that relevant?



Why are there no viable sites?

Very relevant as the people who travel would be more inclined to follow the team if a stadium was outside the city . I know a lot of mates in Coventry who simply couldn't be arsed to go to the ricoh.

 

[Manchester_sky_blue]

Just a few facts for those wingeing about playing just outside the border:

Manchester united play in Stretford......Just outside the city! - Manchester United are not a "city" team. They have never played within the boundary of the city of Manchester so thats irrelevant.

Grimsby Town play in Cleethorpes.........Outside the City! - Grimsby is not a city for a start but that aside, they have lost a huge section of their fan base as a result of their move out of Grimsby and in my view should no longer be able to call themselves Grimsby Town - just as we could not be called Coventry City if we settled permanently outside of the City.

Nottingham forest play in the town of West Bridgford...Just outside the city! - West Bridgford is a suburb of Nottingham, not a town. That aside when the City Ground was built it was within the official Nottingham City Boundary hence why it was called the City Ground! Its the boundary that moved, not the club.

Bolton Wanderers play in the neighbouring town of Horwich....just outside the city! - this one is a fair point as the fans were originally very unhappy with the move out of Bolton but just because they have done it doesn't mean that we should. Their ground is still within the borough of Bolton and within the jurisdiction of Bolton Borough Council so its not the same as us building a stadium in Warwickshire, Leicestershire or any other shire you care to name.

 

[Covlad65]

The difference is all those clubs play within their conurbation.

Coventry has very clear defined boundaries. There is no "Greater Coventry" so to speak. Pretty much all of our urban area lies within the city.

There is also no "Greater Grimsby", "Greater Bolton", Greater Nottingham"........the point is teams have/are playing outside of their City's boundary with relatively success

 

[Manchester_sky_blue]

Very relevant as the people who travel would be more inclined to follow the team if a stadium was outside the city . I know a lot of mates in Coventry who simply couldn't be arsed to go to the ricoh.

Thats a fairly big assumption and one that couldnt be proved until it actually happened. On the other side of the coin I live in Derbyshire (ex-of Manchester, hence the user name) but will not go to a home game unless its in Coventry.

 

[Covlad65]

Agree with it all but the point i am trying to make is that moving to a new ground just outside the Coventry boundary doesn't mean we are not Coventry City...