Lowest Ever Coventry City Attendance? (15 Viewers)
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Grendel
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Are you talking ACL here? They'd be gone the next day - remember who their landlord would be - the set up would have another ltd company own those activities. ACL only survive as the council lets them. The charity share would prove more tricky but a quick revision on the mortgage payment terms may soon make all see the light.
torchomatic
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I don't care either way. I want the Club back at the Ricoh, whatever it takes. If they own the freehold then fair enough if they didn't and had a rental deal that was beneficial to the Club then again, fair enough. I'll leave it to you and others to argue about the what, ifs, whys and hows.
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Jack Griffin
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I agree with Otis, we need a sensational story in the media.. if the crowd dwindles to practically nothing that will hit the spot.
We need their investors to get cold feet.. so the tactics has to be adverse publicity & the threat of losing a lot to money (which is why I think an alternative Cov club is something I'd support as it strikes at the heart of their scheme to use fan loyalty as a bargaining chip).
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Jack Griffin
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And diminish their assets, same difference.
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Deleted member 5849
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I stillthink active rather than passive, out of the unusual serves it better.
Wingy added to it the other day, but hit the Football League/FA headquarters along with other disenfranchised fans of other clubs... if we alone can get 7k to MK, surely we can get half that and more to London for the right cause, well presented?!?
You're then going into the centre of the media empires so it's easier for them to cover, helps them pop down... it's unusual so gets attention, taking in a game at Wimbledon shows solidarity... and it's active, it shows people care enough to do something.
Passive just risks the impression nobody cares, and the club may as well disappear because of that. There's also the risk that the impression of passivity converts to an actuality; give people something to engage with, remind them of their identity, and it keeps that spark alive for the club whenever it's needed, be it coming back to the city or a new club... and by God we need as many as possible bothered in either of those scenarios!
Active, rather than passive. Not all ideas will work, but they need to be laid on the table and co-ordinated so people know they're there, and can plan for the event. Capture and shape the mood and the rest will follow.
Grendel
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Have any club in footballing history lost 90% of its fans in one season?
Sounds pretty newsworthy - if anyone outside Coventry is interested. If zero fans turned up to Carlisle would you care or be interested? No and nor would anyone else.
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Jack Griffin
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You have a very one dimensional way of thinking.. there is room for both approaches.. adopting one tactic does not exclude another...
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Well we've been focussed on the passive at all costs, with pointless energies wasting bashing the passive over the head, energies that could have been more productively used coming up with the active.
On the contrary, to come up with active forms doesn't mean people start going to Northampton, does it, it just replaces an event with an event, as opposed to leaving them to drift to nothing.
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shy_tall_knight
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Even if SISUE were genuine about building a new stadium on the outskirts of the city there are few options available. they are still hanging on to the JR / Ricoh on the cheap so won't commit any funds to purchase land that they my not need. the best publicity ISUE could have would be to publicise the land deal show they are genuine and I would expect a massive increase in crowds at Sexfields.
But despite employing a fan to gauge our opinions on the ground, most have seen through this transparent gesture, next they should run a competition in the schools to design the stadium, eventually the Sexfields 1,300 will see through all this.
AFC for me as the financial hit of moving to northants convinces me that they are tough fighters and are prepared to damage the club to achieve their objective - cheap ricoh freehold.
But despite employing a fan to gauge our opinions on the ground, most have seen through this transparent gesture, next they should run a competition in the schools to design the stadium, eventually the Sexfields 1,300 will see through all this.
AFC for me as the financial hit of moving to northants convinces me that they are tough fighters and are prepared to damage the club to achieve their objective - cheap ricoh freehold.
GaryPendrysEyes
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To answer Torch from the closed thread, but relevant to this...Take your kids to away games, it's away games that are keeping this club alive. Going to Sixfields just gives Sisu money and support to hold the club out of Coventry until they get the Ricoh for their investors.
shy_tall_knight
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not only is it a small crowd but cov at sixfields has to be the worst home ground atmosphere. It was bobby gould's 83 team and the atmosphere at highfield road really got me addicted to football. My 9 year old loved the walsall & port vale atmosphere this season. in 2 years time with no end to the dispute in sight we will see these as wasted years. We will all be more knowlwdgeable about insolvency, landlord/tenant property relationships, judicial reviews but I supported cov for the football, all I can see is more of the above, AFC for me preference is Cov Sphinx being identified as the phoenix club, play at the ricoh to biggish crowds will surely force SISue to change tactic, they are relying on our loyalty, it isn't brand loyalty its deeper than that but us fans need to retake the initiative.
skybluetony176
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lets say that sisu buy the ricoh and rent it for 1p a year to the club, how does that open ALL revenue streams to the club. surely sisu will have to lease the ricoh to the club for that to happen? otherwise we are just another tenant, like the casino and hotel. who's rental income i assume would go directly to sisu. AEG will do the stadium management we already know, again presumably they will pay sisu for this pleasure not another tenant.
you also assume that if the rent is 1p a year the management fee's that don't seem to concern you will stay the same. if the rent was 1p and the management fee's went up a million or 2 we'll need the F & B income more than ever.
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Jack Griffin
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So hijacking Sphinx and moving them to the Ricoh is 'reclaiming' ccfc........
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Definitely a better option than passively accepting the fate of being stuck in Northampton for 5 years.
torchomatic
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So it's not OK for SISU to fuck our club up but you're quite happy to do it to someone else's?
If you want to form your own, do it. Don't nick someone else's team.
If you want to form your own, do it. Don't nick someone else's team.
GaryPendrysEyes
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'The club' is about Coventry and its fans, that is where the real heart and history lies, Sisu play around with holding companies how they like.
Deliberately held for 5 years in Northants, for their own agenda, this lot would in effect create Sisu FC.
But I dont think that will happen, Sisu wont be putting 10m's into a football ground or be taking losses for 5 years.
Deliberately held for 5 years in Northants, for their own agenda, this lot would in effect create Sisu FC.
But I dont think that will happen, Sisu wont be putting 10m's into a football ground or be taking losses for 5 years.
shy_tall_knight
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The original CCFC was formed by a workers team in Coventry, it took the name Coventry as it saw itself as a representation of the city. CCFC is being held hostage in northampton and in my opinion isn't coming back in the near future. I want to see professional football in Coventry, not part-time semi pro football a proper club established in the city whose results will make national headlines. Sphinx are already established and higher up the league than coventry united. They can form another team in the lower leagues . Sphinx can easily reform in the lower leagues.
I'm not turning my back on CCFC, SISU have turned their back on Coventry, nothing I can do can affect the situation, ask AFC Wimbledon fans would they rather have their own club (not in Wimbledon but close to it) or still be in litigation arguing about the club returning from MK. Away games for the next 5 years will soon see our support fall even further
I'm not turning my back on CCFC, SISU have turned their back on Coventry, nothing I can do can affect the situation, ask AFC Wimbledon fans would they rather have their own club (not in Wimbledon but close to it) or still be in litigation arguing about the club returning from MK. Away games for the next 5 years will soon see our support fall even further
Let's not use the AFC Wimbledon - MK Dons scenario, AFC Wimbledon were set up once the FA confirmed the permanent relocation to MK.
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A fair point, but it is difficult to see us coming home at the moment. Coming home is not a priority for Sisu. unless it was suddenly to serve their interests in some way. Not sure if it was on this thread, but Tommy Dazzle (i think) stated it should now be about the bigger football picture, and pressuring the FL/FA; thisis where the media atention lies. In that sense, it does compare with Wimbledon,
The simple fact is that if a STRATEGIC CCFC club is not formed by early next Spring then season 2014-2015 will be lost. That's assuming our team are still not back in Coventry.
There are a few on here, you know who you are, who pour scorn on any suggestion or idea. They simply sit on their hands and do nothing. Or waffle on endlessly about the nature of apathy or cry disloyalty. Doing nothing is not an option.
Nobody is saying hijack Sphinx, it's just an idea put forward, There are a few ways forward. If that was an idea with support I'm sure there would be sensible discussions between all concerned. Nobody is hijacking anyone.
A few months ago any mention of forming a new CCFC was shot down, I can see a change of mood about this idea now, with a number of posters coming around to it.
If you want at least 7 or 8 years of this, then carry on abusing any ideas put forward, do nothing.
I'd love it, absolutely love it, if my club, your club, came back to the Ricoh, or at least Coventry. But that looks years away, if ever.
There is a growing support for this idea. Just the thought of it will make SISU think again.
Someone said earlier that 3,000 fans supporting a reclaimed CCFC would be a firm foundation. Just for starters. I'm convinced more and more would get on board as it gathered momentum.
Another aspect that is overlooked by the regular snipers, is the grim reality that players will leave happily, Cyrus, Callum, John Fleck, Blair, Connor, Franck Moussa & co. They won't want to play in front of 1500 people for long. Sixfields isn't sustainable.
Let's drive Sisu out with a strategy, a plan. Doing nothing is not an option.
There are a few on here, you know who you are, who pour scorn on any suggestion or idea. They simply sit on their hands and do nothing. Or waffle on endlessly about the nature of apathy or cry disloyalty. Doing nothing is not an option.
Nobody is saying hijack Sphinx, it's just an idea put forward, There are a few ways forward. If that was an idea with support I'm sure there would be sensible discussions between all concerned. Nobody is hijacking anyone.
A few months ago any mention of forming a new CCFC was shot down, I can see a change of mood about this idea now, with a number of posters coming around to it.
If you want at least 7 or 8 years of this, then carry on abusing any ideas put forward, do nothing.
I'd love it, absolutely love it, if my club, your club, came back to the Ricoh, or at least Coventry. But that looks years away, if ever.
There is a growing support for this idea. Just the thought of it will make SISU think again.
Someone said earlier that 3,000 fans supporting a reclaimed CCFC would be a firm foundation. Just for starters. I'm convinced more and more would get on board as it gathered momentum.
Another aspect that is overlooked by the regular snipers, is the grim reality that players will leave happily, Cyrus, Callum, John Fleck, Blair, Connor, Franck Moussa & co. They won't want to play in front of 1500 people for long. Sixfields isn't sustainable.
Let's drive Sisu out with a strategy, a plan. Doing nothing is not an option.
Grendel
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Do something then - other than spout off on an interim forum.
Grendel
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In other words you know I'm right.
Grendel
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Says the poster whose only contribution to any discussion is SHITSU or shitsfields.
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Grendel
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Are you going to start the process or sit on your lazy arse with Spoinkop and expect someone to do the work for you?
shy_tall_knight
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Worth noting that one of those determined to split the fans by isolating into groups is one bleating repeatedly about a breakaway club.
Almost like he wants the club fractured, like he welcomes this whole thing.
Time for some to put up or shut up.