Lowest Ever Coventry City Attendance? (34 Viewers)

Brighton Sky Blue

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I'm more than happy to go to games at Northampton. Of course, Tim will need to cover my £100 train tickets to and from Scotland, £20 match ticket and another £20 for refreshments.








Nah sod it I'll just have the £140.
 

Tonylinc

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I'm more than happy to go to games at Northampton. Of course, Tim will need to cover my £100 train tickets to and from Scotland, £20 match ticket and another £20 for refreshments. Forgive me but I am confused. Your user name is Brighton Sky Blue BUT you are in Scotland?








Nah sod it I'll just have the £140.
 

RFC

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Same can be applied to anything. Let's give it a try:


Plans well advanced now and if the 'I' s & T 's' are dotted & crossed on the Ricoh deal, would expect an announcement shortly!
Plans well advanced now and if the 'I' s & T 's' are dotted & crossed on the Messi deal, would expect an announcement shortly!
Plans well advanced now and if the 'I' s & T 's' are dotted & crossed on the Marlon King deal, would expect an announcement shortly!

Of course, just because someone says there are plans doesn't make it so.



Take it "pugwash" you didn't believe when they said "a football club will only survive long-term if they own their own ground & have access to all revenue streams", so if we can't get an agreement on the Ricoh we'll move out and move on" and that's why we're playing in Northampton. So guess you said it would never happen, reality however is very different.
 

Tonylinc

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I'm more than happy to go to games at Northampton. Of course, Tim will need to cover my £100 train tickets to and from Scotland, £20 match ticket and another £20 for refreshments. Forgive me but your user name is Brighton Sky Blue but you are in Scotland????








Nah sod it I'll just have the £140.
 

wince

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Take it "pugwash" you didn't believe when they said "a football club will only survive long-term if they own their own ground & have access to all revenue streams", so if we can't get an agreement on the Ricoh we'll move out and move on" and that's why we're playing in Northampton. So guess you said it would never happen, reality however is very different
so whos going to go
 

Tonylinc

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Take it "pugwash" you didn't believe when they said "a football club will only survive long-term if they own their own ground & have access to all revenue streams", so if we can't get an agreement on the Ricoh we'll move out and move on" and that's why we're playing in Northampton. So guess you said it would never happen, reality however is very different.
A football club needs revenue streams (no argument there) BUT they do not need the Freehold in order to gain those streams. Shitzu are after the Freehold for one reason and one reason only.......guess what that reason is .....
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I was working in Brighton when I signed up to SBT but that was on industrial placement as part of my degree which I did in Scotland. Now based up there doing a PhD at the same uni.
 

bigfatronssba

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Take it "pugwash" you didn't believe when they said "a football club will only survive long-term if they own their own ground & have access to all revenue streams", so if we can't get an agreement on the Ricoh we'll move out and move on" and that's why we're playing in Northampton. So guess you said it would never happen, reality however is very different.

Clubs doomed then as we've already been told the club won own it.
 

Norman Binns

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Take it "pugwash" you didn't believe when they said "a football club will only survive long-term if they own their own ground & have access to all revenue streams", so if we can't get an agreement on the Ricoh we'll move out and move on" and that's why we're playing in Northampton. So guess you said it would never happen, reality however is very different.

Owning your own ground and having "access" to all revenue streams isn`t going to be much use if you´ve got no customers and no revenue coming in. Just a thought.
 

SkyblueBazza

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Owning your own ground and having "access" to all revenue streams isn`t going to be much use if you´ve got no customers and no revenue coming in. Just a thought.

At least the picnic basket needed to provide the catering for the remaining faithful will represent an asset
 

Otis

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Yep, as has been admitted by Fisher himself in his own words, CCFC will not own any new ground. They will pay rent.
 

Delboycov

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Yep, as has been admitted by Fisher himself in his own words, CCFC will not own any new ground. They will pay rent.
Exactly Otis so really can't get my head round why any passionate Coventry City fan would find it preferable to rent a 12,000 capacity ground outside the city we take our name from and who we represent rather than having a similar scenario at a a 32,500 Olympic stadium built for us inside our city. Keep saying it but if you aspire to be tinpot you become tinpot....
 

wingy

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Exactly Otis so really can't get my head round why any passionate Coventry City fan would find it preferable to rent a 12,000 capacity ground outside the city we take our name from and who we represent rather than having a similar scenario at a a 32,500 Olympic stadium built for us inside our city. Keep saying it but if you aspire to be tinpot you become tinpot....

But If you can gain personal satisfaction from It ,so much the better.
 

Otis

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It's a madness. something I've said many times.

Moving from a Premiership quality stadium, which is ready to go, to a new stadium that has to be planned, designed and built and that will be further away, cheaper standard and of a much lower capacity.

If we were to own the new stadium then maybe people would have a point.

It HAS to be the Ricoh.
 

bigfatronssba

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Otis

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Nothing about paying rent, you even replied to the quote...

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/34418-Regardless-of-ownership-!/page9?p=501804#post501804

And OSB has mentioned the separating of property into a separate company isn't unusual in itself.

I still remember him saying that though NW.

I clearly remember him saying it when asked the question at one of the forums or on CWR. He said he didn't know exactly who would be owning the stadium, but that CCFC would be paying rent.
 

bigfatronssba

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No,it's the structure of the companies that needs to be checked.

Its people swallowing the story that the club needs to own the Freehold that annoys me.

I get why the club needs to own the lease, and its benefits.

The Freehold however, it makes no difference to CCFC if it belongs to Sisu or CCC (except I trust CCC's intentions more to do what is right for the city).
 

letsallsingtogether

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But it seems OK that I get comments directed at me as a Hill supporter as I am walking to my car on my own.

Shame the same cowards backed down when I stopped and confronted them.

I do not take the piss out or make comments at them but they feel it is alright to do it to me. If there would have been any trouble I know who would have got the blame.

If these people feel guilty for going in then don't take it out on me!
I say fuckin live with it.


Wingy you're right one time is too many however you have to look at the context in respect to how it started not how it finished.
 

James Smith

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Plans well advanced now and if the 'I' s & T 's' are dotted & crossed on the land deal, would expect an announcement shortly!

If you go to Rotherham it'll give you a good idea what the stadium will look like. PUSB!

Are these the same plans we were promised by Tim would be released a few weeks after the forums in the summer? I have to say I miss Tim he was able to keep a perfectly deadpan face when making jokes. His one about getting 3,000 fans at Sixfields was hysterical :facepalm:
 

ccfcno9

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Take it "pugwash" you didn't believe when they said "a football club will only survive long-term if they own their own ground & have access to all revenue streams", so if we can't get an agreement on the Ricoh we'll move out and move on" and that's why we're playing in Northampton. So guess you said it would never happen, reality however is very different.

A football club will only survive if it till has paying customers imho
 

pugwash

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Take it "pugwash" you didn't believe when they said "a football club will only survive long-term if they own their own ground & have access to all revenue streams", so if we can't get an agreement on the Ricoh we'll move out and move on" and that's why we're playing in Northampton. So guess you said it would never happen, reality however is very different.

I hoped it wouldn't come to that ..... but in reality it was always somewhat likely.


Regardless of why the club was so far from breaking even, I don't think anyone seriously disagrees that the rent/revenue situation was going to be realistic on a long-term basis. Given that ACL didn't initially want to give up much (and I don't blame them) then the ONLY solution was to break the lease and build a new stadium. If Sisu had laid out the facts up front, stated that they were looking for an appropriate location, made offers, requested planning permission etc. BEFORE refusing to pay rent then I truly believe that the majority of fans would have been on their side - even if that meant playing in Northampton for the duration of the build. But a year (?) later there is still no evidence that they intend to build anything; only an agreement on Brandon (which everyone knows will never happen), and an agreement on a mysterious site that nobody can know about - presumably because there are lots of property developers / management companies out there that are poised to jump in and steal it if only they could figure out where it was.

Seriously, WTF, if there is any suitable land for retail development do you really think that these companies won't already know about it? It's a secret because either it doesn't exist or they don't want a barrage of criticism as it won't get approved or it's too far out of Cov. I would love to be proven wrong, but Sisu have a long record of BS and misdirection. They can't even get their own story straight ... ML says they won't ever be a tenant then TF states that buying a long leasehold might also be acceptable. Frankly I'm of the opinion that JS/TF/ML are stupid, or they think we are - not sure which is worse.
 
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Astute

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Plans well advanced now and if the 'I' s & T 's' are dotted & crossed on the land deal, would expect an announcement shortly!

If you go to Rotherham it'll give you a good idea what the stadium will look like. PUSB!

What does the RFC stand for?

Is it Regurgitating Factless Crap?
 

thaiskyblue

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Plans well advanced now and if the 'I' s & T 's' are dotted & crossed on the land deal, would expect an announcement shortly!

If you go to Rotherham it'll give you a good idea what the stadium will look like. PUSB!
you need serious help.
 

mrtrench

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I still maintain the only way to get the club to budge on this is for no City fan to attend Northampton.

I disagree. Why do you think that zero attendance would be any different to 1,000? From a publicity standpoint certainly it would be a big news item. Emotionally too for the fans.

However I don't believe that either of these things would influence SISU at all. Their only driver is money, and the difference between £10k and £0 for an attendance is small potatoes compared to the £30mm they hope to get by getting the Ricoh and land.
 

Astute

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ML says they won't ever be a tenant then TF states that buying a long leasehold might also be acceptable. Frankly I'm of the opinion that JS/TF/ML are stupid, or they think we are - not sure which is worse.

To me it looks like their latest plan backfired. Win the JR and go for loss of earnings. Forced out of the Ricoh into a ground not big enough and too far away for many fans. But a rent free period and then less than Northampton was offered through the FL. ACL can now prove this. They even said after the offer that they won't be looking at suing the council. So is the next plan to be looking for a long term rental agreement with peppercorn rent and ACL taken out of the equation? More or less where we would have been if they would have bought out ACL. ..but maybe without Compass there either.

SISUE never seem to ask for what they want. They say what they want. And if they get this by buying out ACL most of us would be happy.
 

Astute

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I disagree. Why do you think that zero attendance would be any different to 1,000? From a publicity standpoint certainly it would be a big news item. Emotionally too for the fans.

However I don't believe that either of these things would influence SISU at all. Their only driver is money, and the difference between £10k and £0 for an attendance is small potatoes compared to the £30mm they hope to get by getting the Ricoh and land.

We all know that they thought the attendances would be much higher than the highest so far at the worst. So they are having to find more money each week. If they want to hold out for a few years they will have to find a lot more money than expected. This gives us a much better chance of them coming to some sort of agreement.
 

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