AFCCOVENTRY
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Will you still support the club
Or
Will that be the final straw and enough is enough?
Or
Will that be the final straw and enough is enough?
If CCFC doesn't return to Ricoh this summer... (11 Viewers)
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RoboCCFC90
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There is nothing to say that the Club should return to the Ricoh this summer, I will still support them. If the Club hasn't returned to the Ricoh or a new Ground within the sepcified amount of time of which we were given to Groundshare then it's a different question.
RegTheDonk
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Depends how you define "support". The waters are a bit murky lately, with the different viewpoints of I attend Sixfields to support the lads, or I don't go to Sixfields because that supports the owners etc.
If it means going to the odd proper away game, and cheering them on via the radio for the rest, then yes I will still support the club. I won't go to Northampton for a home game, that IMHO is just plain wrong when there is an alternative venue which is viable to the club (the club, not the owners).
If it means going to the odd proper away game, and cheering them on via the radio for the rest, then yes I will still support the club. I won't go to Northampton for a home game, that IMHO is just plain wrong when there is an alternative venue which is viable to the club (the club, not the owners).
bradwellskyblues
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i will still support ccfc but unless there is some agreement soon my enthusiasm will dip and the number of games i go to will be a lot less.Fishers latest program notes make my blood boil .
italiahorse
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As I've said before .... I'm out.
Can't be part of this silliness just because Sisu need to get there losses back.
I've seen nothing from Sisu to say that they will not leave the next 3/5 years of losses in the club.
Remember how they told us the club had no debt ?
Can't be part of this silliness just because Sisu need to get there losses back.
I've seen nothing from Sisu to say that they will not leave the next 3/5 years of losses in the club.
Remember how they told us the club had no debt ?
italiahorse
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What did they say ?
covmark
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I thought Xmas was the end for you?
Funnily enough you're still here though, and no doubt you'll be still here next Xmas, boring the arse off us with your tales of woe, and how you're finished with ccfc.
Nick
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italiahorse
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Answer the original post you divisive arse. He asked a question, he did not ask you to target everybody who answered it. :jerkit:
fernandopartridge
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You have said no but we know your statements are completely meaningless.
bradwellskyblues
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[h=1]e Understand Supporters Stadium Frustrations - Fisher[/h]By Covsupport News Service
Updated Thursday, 20th February 2014
Views: 1086
Fisher On New Stadium
Coventry City CEO Tim Fisher has said he understands the supporters frustrations over the new stadium.
Writing in his programme notes for the Carlisle United game, Mr Fisher wrote: "Progress is being made on the new stadium, although, it is still too early to make any announcements regarding the site. We simply do not want PR noise to affect commercial decisions.
"We are taking very sound advice from internationally, renowned property consultants CBRE and it would not make sense to make public the sites we are looking at until deals are signed, sealed and delivered.
"Of course, we understand that supporters want to know where the stadium is going to be and how long it will take to build.
"i know for some - probably most - it won't be anything more than a "PR" exercise until they see evidence of location and timescales etc.
"That is completely understandable but we would not be spending that much time, effort and money and working with consultants, to bring this project forward just for the publicity especially when most people say they will only believe it when they see it anyway.
"But our intentions and plans are very real, and as i said last summer when I talked about ground-share, it's not a case of brinksmanship or filibustering, the club comes first and we have to protect its future. Many accused me of bluffing but clearly i wasn't. Sadly, reality tells you we were taking the necessary steps to protect the cub.
"Owning our own stadium, the revenue streams it brings in and the community benefits it offers are all essential to the future stability and success of Coventry City."
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Fisher On New Stadium
Coventry City CEO Tim Fisher has said he understands the supporters frustrations over the new stadium.
Writing in his programme notes for the Carlisle United game, Mr Fisher wrote: "Progress is being made on the new stadium, although, it is still too early to make any announcements regarding the site. We simply do not want PR noise to affect commercial decisions.
"We are taking very sound advice from internationally, renowned property consultants CBRE and it would not make sense to make public the sites we are looking at until deals are signed, sealed and delivered.
"Of course, we understand that supporters want to know where the stadium is going to be and how long it will take to build.
"i know for some - probably most - it won't be anything more than a "PR" exercise until they see evidence of location and timescales etc.
"That is completely understandable but we would not be spending that much time, effort and money and working with consultants, to bring this project forward just for the publicity especially when most people say they will only believe it when they see it anyway.
"But our intentions and plans are very real, and as i said last summer when I talked about ground-share, it's not a case of brinksmanship or filibustering, the club comes first and we have to protect its future. Many accused me of bluffing but clearly i wasn't. Sadly, reality tells you we were taking the necessary steps to protect the cub.
"Owning our own stadium, the revenue streams it brings in and the community benefits it offers are all essential to the future stability and success of Coventry City."
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italiahorse
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Until Arsenal tickets are on sale
I went to Arsenal because someone who could not take themselves wanted me to act as carer.
Answer the post not pick on people who answer it.
Nick
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I went to Arsenal because someone who could not take themselves wanted me to act as carer.
Answer the post not pick on people who answer it.
Yes but SISU have taken us out of Coventry......
Anyway, back on topic (apologies it went slightly off too)
RoboCCFC90
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The question is regarding the programme notes above for arguments sake we say the New Stadium is never going to happen like most on here continue to state then why are Sisu employing these companies like CBRE, surely this takes time and money?*
*Please don't respond with it will just be dumped on to CCFC as Management Fee's anyway. It doesn't answer the question.
*Please don't respond with it will just be dumped on to CCFC as Management Fee's anyway. It doesn't answer the question.
Couple of points.
1. I'll always be a coventry fan. But whether I'll support them by attending games is another matter. Anywhere other than Ricoh then No. If backstage Ricoh with current owners I'd have to think about it.
2. Fisher speaks of fans frustrations re new stadium.....think there's only a handful of fans that believe in the project and want it.
3. Pr would affect commercial outcomes....presumably there aren't any other football teams in the area looking for land to build a new stadium on, so he must only mean cost, which I thought wasn't a problem considering they've moved to sixfields and willing to lose millions?
1. I'll always be a coventry fan. But whether I'll support them by attending games is another matter. Anywhere other than Ricoh then No. If backstage Ricoh with current owners I'd have to think about it.
2. Fisher speaks of fans frustrations re new stadium.....think there's only a handful of fans that believe in the project and want it.
3. Pr would affect commercial outcomes....presumably there aren't any other football teams in the area looking for land to build a new stadium on, so he must only mean cost, which I thought wasn't a problem considering they've moved to sixfields and willing to lose millions?
skybluesam66
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i have supported them home and away for 40 years
mostly with a season ticket, but even when not - i have been to most games
It no longer feels like my team
When we play in Northampton - it is just a feeling of apathy
At away games, it is my team again
If this goes on though - my team will be gone -
May be next season - may be the one after - but it will be gone
mostly with a season ticket, but even when not - i have been to most games
It no longer feels like my team
When we play in Northampton - it is just a feeling of apathy
At away games, it is my team again
If this goes on though - my team will be gone -
May be next season - may be the one after - but it will be gone
e Understand Supporters Stadium Frustrations - Fisher
By Covsupport News Service
Updated Thursday, 20th February 2014
Views: 1086
Fisher On New Stadium
Coventry City CEO Tim Fisher has said he understands the supporters frustrations over the new stadium.
Writing in his programme notes for the Carlisle United game, Mr Fisher wrote: "Progress is being made on the new stadium, although, it is still too early to make any announcements regarding the site. We simply do not want PR noise to affect commercial decisions.
"We are taking very sound advice from internationally, renowned property consultants CBRE and it would not make sense to make public the sites we are looking at until deals are signed, sealed and delivered.
"Of course, we understand that supporters want to know where the stadium is going to be and how long it will take to build.
"i know for some - probably most - it won't be anything more than a "PR" exercise until they see evidence of location and timescales etc.
"That is completely understandable but we would not be spending that much time, effort and money and working with consultants, to bring this project forward just for the publicity especially when most people say they will only believe it when they see it anyway.
"But our intentions and plans are very real, and as i said last summer when I talked about ground-share, it's not a case of brinksmanship or filibustering, the club comes first and we have to protect its future. Many accused me of bluffing but clearly i wasn't. Sadly, reality tells you we were taking the necessary steps to protect the cub.
"Owning our own stadium, the revenue streams it brings in and the community benefits it offers are all essential to the future stability and success of Coventry City."
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I think you will find those are his programme notes for the 1st 'home' game of the 2015 season.
play_in_skyblue_stripes
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Im out too.
Covstu
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I started the season attending home and some away games despte the abuse, it was exciting and the pressure was off the team and it showed. The continual lies coming from our owners has changed my view, not only do i not attend home games i rarely go away now. Apathy has well and truely settled in, i am falling out of love with City and that time is being spent elsewhere and i am not missing it. I do listen on the radio and scream and shout at it sometimes but it is becoming more and more difficult to motivate myself to follow them. Take Tuesday night, i was more bothered about the Manchester game than listening to us on the radio, last season that just wouldnt have happened.
I will never stop supporting the team but following them is becoming more and more difficult.
I will never stop supporting the team but following them is becoming more and more difficult.
duffer
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My opinion: Because it's the bare minimum they can do to convince the FL that it isn't a load of bullshit.
TF's already been caught lying in regard to disclosing the location 'in a matter of weeks', being in 'advanced discussions with councils', and the number of venues they are considering seems to change on a weekly basis.
The evidence we've seen so far suggests to me that the new stadium is a bluff, whatever Fisher says...
chiefdave
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I wish someone in the local press would pick up on these things and make him justify his statements
How would fans knowing where the stadium was going to be affect commercial decisions? It simply doesn't makes sense, every other club who announce anything about building a new stadium let their fans know where it will be long before they purchase the land. Does he think if we know where it is the price will suddenly go up or someone else will get in before them and build a stadium?
It's been clearly shown on here over and over again there is no need to own the stadium and ACL have offered the club the matchday revenue streams. Again he keeps repeating this, we know it's not true yet the press don't call him out on it. What community benefits will there be to Coventry when the stadium isn't going to be in the city? He seems to think if he keeps repeating the same BS eventually everyone will believe him.
We know nothing about the deal between SISU and CBRE. Maybe they work on a retainer and in real terms it is costing SISU little to nothing, especially if not much is really happening. Maybe they are paying them but the cost is relatively low and they need to employ such a company as a means to show the FL that something is being done. I don't think we can take the fact that CBRE are involved as being any proof the new stadium is on the way.
There have been reputable companies involved down here with Pompey on 3 different new stadiums in different locations, none of them happened, hasn't harmed those companies.
I've long thought SISU would purchase land, they can after all just hold on to it and sell it on at a later date, as a pressure tactic. The 'look, here's proof we are going to build a stadium' ploy. The fact they haven't even managed to do that by now, nearly a third of the way through the initial timescale for the stadium, doesn't exactly inspire confidence!
Fisher said:
How would fans knowing where the stadium was going to be affect commercial decisions? It simply doesn't makes sense, every other club who announce anything about building a new stadium let their fans know where it will be long before they purchase the land. Does he think if we know where it is the price will suddenly go up or someone else will get in before them and build a stadium?
Fisher said:
It's been clearly shown on here over and over again there is no need to own the stadium and ACL have offered the club the matchday revenue streams. Again he keeps repeating this, we know it's not true yet the press don't call him out on it. What community benefits will there be to Coventry when the stadium isn't going to be in the city? He seems to think if he keeps repeating the same BS eventually everyone will believe him.
We know nothing about the deal between SISU and CBRE. Maybe they work on a retainer and in real terms it is costing SISU little to nothing, especially if not much is really happening. Maybe they are paying them but the cost is relatively low and they need to employ such a company as a means to show the FL that something is being done. I don't think we can take the fact that CBRE are involved as being any proof the new stadium is on the way.
There have been reputable companies involved down here with Pompey on 3 different new stadiums in different locations, none of them happened, hasn't harmed those companies.
I've long thought SISU would purchase land, they can after all just hold on to it and sell it on at a later date, as a pressure tactic. The 'look, here's proof we are going to build a stadium' ploy. The fact they haven't even managed to do that by now, nearly a third of the way through the initial timescale for the stadium, doesn't exactly inspire confidence!
chiefdave
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No doubt with every day that passes the number of people who still care goes down. Another season at Sixfields will be a significant point for some and it will be really interesting to see how ST sales are next season compared to this. Surely those who attend 'home' games in the belief the new stadium will be built must be questioning that by now and reconsidering their position. If we're getting crowds as low as the game this week now could we be seeing games go under 1K next season?
chiefdave
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Returns to the Ricoh or to the 'Coventry area'?
torchomatic
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OK, let's imagine that City did build their own stadium, say just over the boundary and returned. Would people still stop following them as they say on here and form a phoenix team? Coventry has shown in the past it doesn't have enthusiasm for one team nevermind two. What would happen?
mrbluesky87
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I will always be a Coventry City supporter but will never step foot in Northampton or any other supposed home ground outside of the City boundary (including new stadium:thinking about. I will be honest I have not kept up with games this season and in some cases have only seen the score by accident late in evenings etc, I dont even watch the football league show anymore. I of course will go back to the RICOH when they return as a season ticket holder.
. I will be honest I have not kept up with games this season and in some cases have only seen the score by accident late in evenings etc, I dont even watch the football league show anymore. I of course will go back to the RICOH when they return as a season ticket holder.
skybluetony176
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Assuming you mean the ricoh I agree. I know more people that the situation has lit a fire under than put the fire out.
I do however think that this will change the longer the club is away. If we are still in Northampton for next seasons kick off I can see a big drop in numbers both home and away.
Closed season and what does or doesn't happen could be make or break for our club.
chiefdave
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My opinion is that a phoenix team won't work in Coventry. There is a lot of apathy amount Coventry supporters, understandable with so many years without any sort of success. That's before you even consider the splits there would be between groups of fans and infighting.
If we return to the 'Coventry area' rather than Coventry there is no doubt we will lose fans as some will refuse to attend on principle, even if it's only 1cm over the boundary. Of course the further away it is the greater the number of people we will lose. It's not like we're going to be out of the city as there's no possibility of playing in the city and that makes a big difference. If we had no choice but to move elsewhere I would happily attend at Sixfields or a new stadium outside the city but we all know we do have somewhere to play in the city.
RoboCCFC90
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So what you are suggesting is that Sisu are employing CBRE to play the bluff card to fool everyone. I won't say it's wrong because I don't know any more than that but if so it's risky.
torchomatic
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I'm not disagreeing about the Ricoh. We all want to return there, but if it doesn't happen and we return - even 500 yards over the boundary - and people refuse to attend then I really don't think a phoenix team would work. May as well transfer allegiance to the Sphinx.
chiefdave
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Totally agree, 500 yards or 50 miles away I can't see a phoenix team working. For those that want local football there's Sphinx, if enough people got behind them they might even consider moving someone like the Butts in a few years time. The way Nuneaton are going they could be playing league football, might attract a few lapsed City supporters who live over that side of the city.
skybluebeduff
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Since SISU decided to move us away, I have not spent £1 on anything CCFC related. It will remain this way until they bring us home.
I don't care who would receive MY money if they return to Coventry, they would get it either way (SISU or not), I want CCFC back home. Can it be any simpler than that??
I have resisted all home and aways game thus far, and will remain to do so until the above.
Am I a lesser fan than you's because of this? because now I resort to the radio and the internet all things CCFC related?
Does it fuck!!
I'm CITY TILL I DIE!!!
Who's going to change that for me?
No-one.
I don't care who would receive MY money if they return to Coventry, they would get it either way (SISU or not), I want CCFC back home. Can it be any simpler than that??
I have resisted all home and aways game thus far, and will remain to do so until the above.
Am I a lesser fan than you's because of this? because now I resort to the radio and the internet all things CCFC related?
Does it fuck!!
I'm CITY TILL I DIE!!!
Who's going to change that for me?
No-one.
skybluelee
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e Understand Supporters Stadium Frustrations - Fisher
By Covsupport News Service
Updated Thursday, 20th February 2014
Views: 1086
Fisher On New Stadium
Coventry City CEO Tim Fisher has said he understands the supporters frustrations over the new stadium.
Writing in his programme notes for the Carlisle United game, Mr Fisher wrote: "Progress is being made on the new stadium, although, it is still too early to make any announcements regarding the site. We simply do not want PR noise to affect commercial decisions.
"We are taking very sound advice from internationally, renowned property consultants CBRE and it would not make sense to make public the sites we are looking at until deals are signed, sealed and delivered.
"Of course, we understand that supporters want to know where the stadium is going to be and how long it will take to build.
"i know for some - probably most - it won't be anything more than a "PR" exercise until they see evidence of location and timescales etc.
"That is completely understandable but we would not be spending that much time, effort and money and working with consultants, to bring this project forward just for the publicity especially when most people say they will only believe it when they see it anyway.
"But our intentions and plans are very real, and as i said last summer when I talked about ground-share, it's not a case of brinksmanship or filibustering, the club comes first and we have to protect its future. Many accused me of bluffing but clearly i wasn't. Sadly, reality tells you we were taking the necessary steps to protect the cub.
"Owning our own stadium, the revenue streams it brings in and the community benefits it offers are all essential to the future stability and success of Coventry City."
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I cannot express how strongly I despise this man.