It's funny they say the reason to do this is because the loan system isn't working, but having check the England national teams current squad more than half have been out on loan during their career. The reason we have a below standard national team is because most Premier clubs do not have a scouting system in this country. If you ask any of the ten clubs if they have ever been to a non-league game or even Div 1 or 2 may be only Rodgers has done so. If Graham Carr was held in such high esteem for finding up and coming British players rather than all french ones they would have an arguement. The top managers totally neglect British football.
How's This Going To Help The English Game? (3 Viewers)
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CCFC PimpRail
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Why don't those clubs who want a B team "adopt" a lower club...? Man U could adopt CCFC and take over the Ricoh lease, it'd mean fans would have less far to travel from London to home games, and Cov is full of Man U fans anyway...
ccfcway
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havent spurs pretty much adopted Swindon this season ?
SunZoomSpark
New Member
I don't get this....so a prem team has a b team....the b team win league 2 but the prem team get relegated ... So is there then no b team?.. Is there no promotion for the b team?...And where who takes over that prem teams b league place?...makes a mockery of the entire league....
Brighton Sky Blue
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England isn't Britain.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well, yes. He isn't going to be around when the aims of this plan are supposed to be realised so he can suggest as many bold and stupid things as he likes fully in the knowledge that he won't be accountable when nothing good comes of them. The Germans have a solid national team for a lot of reasons but having B teams play in the league system isn't one of them, especially as below their third division the leagues are amateur.
Neutral Fan
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Neutral Fan
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How would Britidh players help the English game? They might all be Scots or Welsh. No use at all to England.
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Jack Griffin
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I thought that the real plan was to propose something outrageous & later fall back to the real goal, which is lower league feeder clubs for the big boys..
Sorry, but IMHO that is also unacceptable..
What an absolute joke this country's game has become, they want to know what's wrong with the English game just take a look at the commission itself the bloke running it is former head of the bbc if it was Germany it would be a former playing legend such as Beckenbauer. They want to to really start changing the the game for the better start to by clearing the FA of all the lords and toffs and start appointing the likes of hoddle, Robson and other retired pros who truly know what it takes to make it and have seen all the bad sides of the English game up close and personal.
The game in this country was built on passion and a desire to achieve the impossible as a team fans and players United as one, now we're reduced to blaming the poor for the failures of the rich. It's a plain and simple fact that the year before the premier league we reached the semi final of a World Cup with legends of the game such as waddle, garza, platt, lineker, shilton, walker and many others and the reason we did.......our league had to rely on good coaching not money and cheap foreign import.
And breath rant over
The game in this country was built on passion and a desire to achieve the impossible as a team fans and players United as one, now we're reduced to blaming the poor for the failures of the rich. It's a plain and simple fact that the year before the premier league we reached the semi final of a World Cup with legends of the game such as waddle, garza, platt, lineker, shilton, walker and many others and the reason we did.......our league had to rely on good coaching not money and cheap foreign import.
And breath rant over
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
Comment from the Conference leagues - seems they haven't even been consulted
http://nonleague.pitchero.com/news/...gue&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
The Football Conference Board at its meeting today had its first opportunity to see the 80 page England Commission Report which has just been published. It has noted that in its efforts to “diagnose” the problems addressed in the report that the Commission heard the views of 650 people allegedly “across all levels of the game”.
Whilst the Commission contains in some detail proposals deeply affecting the Football Conference, neither its chairman nor any other members of the Board of that particular competition were in any way consulted nor were their views sought directly or indirectly.
The Conference absolutely believes in the principle of introducing measures to improve the England national team and although it has not had the opportunity to analyse the report in detail it does feel able to comment on some of the resultant media reports and speculation.
1. We agree that future England players need to be given the opportunity to play more competitive football but we believe that experience should be at the highest levels of the game.
2. We agree there should be more home grown talent playing at those highest levels and fully support measures to increase those numbers to at least 50% with 10% being U21 players.
3. We would like to see The FA extend its coaching programme by providing more financial support, in order to enhance the skills of its existing and future coaches to a higher standard, in order to compete with countries like Spain who have an abundance of more qualified coaches compared to those in England.
The last point we wish to make at this stage is that the English pyramid system is unique, having evolved over 100 years. It has supported the growth of football into a league system that has become the envy of the world. The foundation is that in every community, throughout the UK, ordinary individuals engage in the financing, support and participation of teams which one day can reach the pinnacle of the top of the Premier League. It is built on a dream that every single football supporter has bought into.
In view of the length of the Executive Summary and the number of major issues contained therein it would be wrong to comment further at this stage before an in depth consideration.
We, as a competition, together with all other leagues who make up the structure beneath the Premier League and the Football League, should have the opportunity to meet, with some urgency, to reflect on the issues contained therein.
It is important in these proposals to remember the heritage of the English game, which has over a century of participation, been the rock on which the modern game currently exists so it is right we should consult with our partner competitions before making a full response.
We, like all supporters, wish to see the national team successful on the world stage but not to do it in a manner which threatens the whole existence of the Pyramid, on which the solid base of our whole game is dependent. The report will no doubt be viewed with much scepticism, surely players who seek to wear the Three Lions shirt in the future MUST be enhancing their skills and ambitions at the highest level of our game
http://nonleague.pitchero.com/news/...gue&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
The Football Conference Board at its meeting today had its first opportunity to see the 80 page England Commission Report which has just been published. It has noted that in its efforts to “diagnose” the problems addressed in the report that the Commission heard the views of 650 people allegedly “across all levels of the game”.
Whilst the Commission contains in some detail proposals deeply affecting the Football Conference, neither its chairman nor any other members of the Board of that particular competition were in any way consulted nor were their views sought directly or indirectly.
The Conference absolutely believes in the principle of introducing measures to improve the England national team and although it has not had the opportunity to analyse the report in detail it does feel able to comment on some of the resultant media reports and speculation.
1. We agree that future England players need to be given the opportunity to play more competitive football but we believe that experience should be at the highest levels of the game.
2. We agree there should be more home grown talent playing at those highest levels and fully support measures to increase those numbers to at least 50% with 10% being U21 players.
3. We would like to see The FA extend its coaching programme by providing more financial support, in order to enhance the skills of its existing and future coaches to a higher standard, in order to compete with countries like Spain who have an abundance of more qualified coaches compared to those in England.
The last point we wish to make at this stage is that the English pyramid system is unique, having evolved over 100 years. It has supported the growth of football into a league system that has become the envy of the world. The foundation is that in every community, throughout the UK, ordinary individuals engage in the financing, support and participation of teams which one day can reach the pinnacle of the top of the Premier League. It is built on a dream that every single football supporter has bought into.
In view of the length of the Executive Summary and the number of major issues contained therein it would be wrong to comment further at this stage before an in depth consideration.
We, as a competition, together with all other leagues who make up the structure beneath the Premier League and the Football League, should have the opportunity to meet, with some urgency, to reflect on the issues contained therein.
It is important in these proposals to remember the heritage of the English game, which has over a century of participation, been the rock on which the modern game currently exists so it is right we should consult with our partner competitions before making a full response.
We, like all supporters, wish to see the national team successful on the world stage but not to do it in a manner which threatens the whole existence of the Pyramid, on which the solid base of our whole game is dependent. The report will no doubt be viewed with much scepticism, surely players who seek to wear the Three Lions shirt in the future MUST be enhancing their skills and ambitions at the highest level of our game
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Jack Griffin
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He's been taking a good old battering on Twitter.. :slap:
pw362
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Martin Samuel of the Daily Mail believes the FA commission's plan for a B-team league is doomed to fail.
Writing in his column, he says: "The Premier League B teams would include players earning far in excess of the norm for the competition and have financial structures that bear no relation to those of the standard lower league club.
"For the bottom line is that Manchester United B do not really exist. Not as a real club with a board and an independent revenue stream, and sponsors and advertisers, supporters and a gate and salaries that conform to the limitations of League Two.
"So to expect Accrington Stanley to be tied to Football League regulations on expenditure, while playing against a striker earning £25,000 a week whose owners are not party to the same rules, is entirely unfair."
Writing in his column, he says: "The Premier League B teams would include players earning far in excess of the norm for the competition and have financial structures that bear no relation to those of the standard lower league club.
"For the bottom line is that Manchester United B do not really exist. Not as a real club with a board and an independent revenue stream, and sponsors and advertisers, supporters and a gate and salaries that conform to the limitations of League Two.
"So to expect Accrington Stanley to be tied to Football League regulations on expenditure, while playing against a striker earning £25,000 a week whose owners are not party to the same rules, is entirely unfair."
2011: EPPP is introduced - "OK, we've decided that Premier League clubs should be able to take the best football league youngsters at a bargain price. Probably less than it actually cost to develop that player in the first place. Is that alright? Oh, and if it isn't you'll lose your solidarity payments."
*Feeding frenzy ensues*
2014: "OK, pretty awkward, but... we've kind of got too many young players now and we're not quite sure where to put them haha. Mind if we just make a team out of them and shove them into your league system?"
*Feeding frenzy ensues*
2014: "OK, pretty awkward, but... we've kind of got too many young players now and we're not quite sure where to put them haha. Mind if we just make a team out of them and shove them into your league system?"
stupot07
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Brendon Rodgers has backed the plans....what a surprise Liverpool will never get relegated to a level where it directly impacts them and will only benefit as they will be guaranteed to be one the 10 clubs with a B side.
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Frostie
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Just seen your latest post on the subject on gmk Stupot, some brilliant ideas there. Send them to that clueless t*@t at the FA would you? Although the more cynical among us may suggest of course that his ideas aren't really to do with improving the state of English football & more to do with £££..? :thinking about:
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-football-association-say-no-to-b-teams
Please sign and share the petition against this ludicrous idea.
Please sign and share the petition against this ludicrous idea.