Gael Bigirimana leaving newcastle ? (14 Viewers)

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http://www.nufcblog.com/2014/07/21/newcastle-midfielder-considers-leaving-the-club/Newcastle Midfielder Considers Leaving The Club

11:36 am, Monday, July 21st, 2014 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 14 Comments

When Gael Bigirimana arrived at Newcastle two years ago from Coventry, and then played 25 times with one goal in his first season, which included playing 10 times in the Europa league, it looked like Newcastle had signed a gem for only £1M, and he would quickly go on to become a Newcastle regular in the side.

Gael Bigirimana – considers leaving Newcastle

But it shows just how fragile football careers can be – especially for youngsters – and last season Gael seemed to disappear – and a lot of the absence was caused by injury, and he ended up playing only one game for Newcastle and then last week he was left out of the squad that went to New Zealand.
However, its not the end of the world for Gael – and he should remember that James Perch was left out of the squad that flew to America three years ago, but in the following season James still played 28 times for Newcastle and made a significant contribution to Newcastle finishing 5th top of the Premier League.
This is what Gael has said today:

“I don’t know. It depends on how the manager sees you.” “Things were looking brighter, but things can change quickly.¨ “Sometimes you find yourself at the top of the world in football, and very soon you find yourself at the bottom of the world.¨
“If the manager doesn’t see you in his plans, then there’s nothing you can do but see if you can get some games and see what the future holds.¨
“I’m not a person that goes around and says this or that if the manager has changed his mind. If he has, that’s his decision.¨ “I’m not going to say ‘why this?’ and ‘why that?’.¨
“Football’s like that. You’ve got to be strong. You just have to go somewhere where you can get games.”
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Gael will have to see how things go in pre-season, but if nothing much changes then maybe the best thing would be for Gael to go out on loan – even for the season – to get some regular first team games.
But there’s still a decent chance that Gael can make it at Newcastle, and after all last season, he couldn’t quite get going with (all) the injuries he picked up.

 

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[Sky Blue Kid]

Newcastle fans are the most knowledgable around. Most have said Bigi needs nurturing, something that never happened here at Coventry. Thorne nearly killed the lad and almost wrecked him mentally. Pardew is an idiot according to Newcastle fans, and who should know better than them?

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Newcastle fans are the most knowledgable around.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....

...Brilliant SBK. I needed a good laugh. Great stuff.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Please forgive me for having a opinion jimmyhillsfanclub, but have you taken time to actually READ the comments from their fans? or is it just YOUR opinion of Newcastle fans in general? One fan talks about Carrol not being able to fit in with the style of "Playing the passing game at Liverpool" and the "Hoofball" under Sam Allardyce at West Ham. Yet Carrol was snapped up by Liverpool for £35m playing the "Newcastle way" Would you say his opinion was shit and laughable? Most have said Bigi needs to be loaned out because Pardew doesn't understand how good Bigi actually is. To finish, IMHO and in the opinion of nearly all the good TV pundits and Ex-Pros, Newcastle fans ARE the most knowledgable. Obviously YOUR opinion is better than everyone elses...I bow to your superior knowledge mate.

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

Thorne nearly killed the lad and almost wrecked him mentally

Kinnell. Is it Hyperbole Monday? Why are footballers considered so precious? Have you any idea what happens in the real world?

 

[hill83]

Just popping my 10p in for the inevitable meltdown in this thread at some point.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ MMM...I take it you disagree that Thorne nearly wrecked Bigi's career. Maybe I was a bit OTT with my comment, but Bigi had to be left out of the squad for months because of the way Thorne used the boy. Anyway, I thought we were talking Football, for a lot of people football IS the real world(Ask covcityforlife). It was a massive part of my life for about 10 years. I owe what I've achieved to it.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Just popping my 10p in for the inevitable meltdown in this thread at some point.

Judging by the way you eat your food, Do you take a dump like "Mr Whippy"?

 

[Grendel]

Newcastle fans knowledgable about what? I was friends with a fan when at Uni and went to some games with him. Racist, homophobic, sexist.

Who told you this - the same source that said Westwood was bought for £250,000?

Stop talking shit.

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

@ MMM...I take it you disagree that Thorne nearly wrecked Bigi's career. Maybe I was a bit OTT with my comment, but Bigi had to be left out of the squad for months because of the way Thorne used the boy. Anyway, I thought we were talking Football, for a lot of people football IS the real world(Ask covcityforlife). It was a massive part of my life for about 10 years. I owe what I've achieved to it.

Well, at the time Newcastle came in for him; Thorn was quoted as follows: “He was given his chance last season and he did really well,” said Thorn. “Then, like most kids breaking through, he had a little dip and we looked after him by taking him out of the team to get him back on his game again. He understood that and did that and he came back strong again, so it would be a real shame if we lost him now."

Of course, far from 'nearly killing him' in the 2012 season, he went on to be named Apprentice of the Year for the Championship at the Football League Awards 2012; at which point he stated: "“I need to thank the Academy staff at Coventry and my team-mates for making me the player that I am today. I would of course like to thank the gaffer for giving me 21 first-team appearances at the age of 17.”

So, I'm not so sure evidence backs your tale of practical decapitation of the lad....

 

[skybluetom]

Thorne nearly killed the lad and almost wrecked him mentally.

Thorn didn't do that badly with him, got him a move to the Premier League didn't he?

Bigirimana was a another Conor Thomas; he didn't actually do very much but was overhyped because he's young and English.

 

[Silence_Is_The_Enemy]

Thorne nearly killed the lad and almost wrecked him mentally.

if that's in reference to Thorne throwing him under the bus on the radio after he got sent off against Burnley i'm glad someone else saw that the same way i did

 

[Nick]

When Bigi was playing it was almost like there was an imaginary line on the pitch he wasn't allowed to cross and looked scared to get near. He would run it but then suddenly stop to pass it back or play it. Then you see the videos of him in the youth team and he looked completely different.

Thorn did hammer him on the radio after his sending off. Not too sure how much of Bigi's career is down to Thorn though, more likely Rioch etc.

 

[shmmeee]

FWIW I was hearing a lot of rumours about a fall out with Thorn months before he left from people quite close to him.

 

[skybluetom]

if that's in reference to Thorne throwing him under the bus on the radio after he got sent off against Burnley i'm glad someone else saw that the same way i did

I can't recall exactly what was said but wasn't it along the lines of 'it was stupid, and it was a red card'? Both of which are impossible to argue against.

 

[Silence_Is_The_Enemy]

i think they would have ditched thorne in the summer but they wanted fleck and it was only down to thorne's connections that was able to happen.

i always thought gael was a raw talent if you taught him to defend or attack he had the potential to be brilliant

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

i think they would have ditched thorne in the summer but they wanted fleck and it was only down to thorne's connections that was able to happen.

i always thought gael was a raw talent if you taught him to defend or attack he had the potential to be brilliant

Still got time to be brilliant. Only 20.

 

[wingy]

I can't recall exactly what was said but wasn't it along the lines of 'it was stupid, and it was a red card'? Both of which are impossible to argue against.

I disagree ,Bigi connected the ball and was It Trippier, used his physique to launch himself In Bigi's direction ,he was further from the ball than BIGI,Bigi TBF was lucky not to get flattened by hm throwing himself In to the challenge ,The Burnley players then mobbed the ref.

 

[Silence_Is_The_Enemy]

I can't recall exactly what was said but wasn't it along the lines of 'it was stupid, and it was a red card'? Both of which are impossible to argue against.

i recall him been asked how gael was because he must be upset and he replied with i dont care how he is feeling then he went on about it been stupid, a red card and he needed to grow up fast. he then went on to slate burnleys bench for their reaction. was one of them moments he was only a kid and needed protecting by his manager and instead thorne threw him under the bus gael wasnt the same player after all that if anything i expected him to stay and cyrus to get transferred to newcastle

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Please forgive me for having a opinion jimmyhillsfanclub, but have you taken time to actually READ the comments from their fans? or is it just YOUR opinion of Newcastle fans in general? One fan talks about Carrol not being able to fit in with the style of "Playing the passing game at Liverpool" and the "Hoofball" under Sam Allardyce at West Ham. Yet Carrol was snapped up by Liverpool for £35m playing the "Newcastle way" Would you say his opinion was shit and laughable? Most have said Bigi needs to be loaned out because Pardew doesn't understand how good Bigi actually is. To finish, IMHO and in the opinion of nearly all the good TV pundits and Ex-Pros, Newcastle fans ARE the most knowledgable. Obviously YOUR opinion is better than everyone elses...I bow to your superior knowledge mate.

Why so touchy?

I only laughed as I personally have found Geordies to be far too insulated from the rest of football to have any real perspective on the game.....As I say, just from my personal experience of the barcodes.

Look at how they bitch & moan about Ashley.....A British billionaire who continually pumps cash into the club despite the hatred he receives from them....

You're entitled to your opinion.....I'll stick to mine thanks.

 

[Monners]

I disagree ,Bigi connected the ball and was It Trippier, used his physique to launch himself In Bigi's direction ,he was further from the ball than BIGI,Bigi TBF was lucky not to get flattened by hm throwing himself In to the challenge ,The Burnley players then mobbed the ref.

That's how remember it also. Burnley players were a disgrace.

 

[wingy]

To the OP ,a loan would be best for him IMO,maybe Gregor can get him over to Wigan,A club more recently like ours used to be.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

To all that have replied to my own posts, thank you.....@ Grenduffy...If it's shit you want..Have a word with hill83, He dumps like Mr Whippy, if you're good, he might give you one. @ MMM...A boy of 17 can be damaged mentally by being "Shown up" on radio, and it can ruin a career in football..."I've seen it happen 100's of times"...Welcome to the real world mate

 

[stupot07]

I disagree ,Bigi connected the ball and was It Trippier, used his physique to launch himself In Bigi's direction ,he was further from the ball than BIGI,Bigi TBF was lucky not to get flattened by hm throwing himself In to the challenge ,The Burnley players then mobbed the ref.

iIRC he was playing on the left hand side of the diamond and was also at fault for their equaliser by failing to track Ross Wallace's run?


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[wingy]

iIRC he was playing on the left hand side of the diamond and was also at fault for their equaliser by failing to track Ross Wallace's run?


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Now the memory Is a funny thing but I always see him working up the right hand side .:facepalm:

That challenge was certainly out near the RB position,so I guess he was out of position .

Of course a 17 YR old Is bound to make mistakes ,I'm sure he wasn't played to his own strengths and had to fill a more defensive role .

 

[paulw]

Please forgive me for having a opinion jimmyhillsfanclub, but have you taken time to actually READ the comments from their fans? or is it just YOUR opinion of Newcastle fans in general? One fan talks about Carrol not being able to fit in with the style of "Playing the passing game at Liverpool" and the "Hoofball" under Sam Allardyce at West Ham. Yet Carrol was snapped up by Liverpool for £35m playing the "Newcastle way" Would you say his opinion was shit and laughable? Most have said Bigi needs to be loaned out because Pardew doesn't understand how good Bigi actually is. To finish, IMHO and in the opinion of nearly all the good TV pundits and Ex-Pros, Newcastle fans ARE the most knowledgable. Obviously YOUR opinion is better than everyone elses...I bow to your superior knowledge mate.

Carroll left Newcastle January 31st 2011 whereas Pardew joined Newcastle in December 2010. Purdew had nothing to do with the sale of Carroll.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

A little snippet from Sir Alex Ferguson's speech to Harvard University about managing footballers.............................................................For a player – and for any human being – there is nothing better than hearing 'well done'. Those are the two best words ever invented in sports. You don't need to use superlatives." However, Ferguson also discussed the need for controlled discipline and respect, alluding to his famous "hairdryer treatment" technique. "You can't always come in shouting and screaming. That doesn't work. No one likes to get criticised. But in the football dressing room, it's necessary that you point out your players' mistakes. I do it right after the game. I don't wait until Monday, I do it, and it's finished. I'm on to the next match. There is no point in criticising a player forever. "You can't ever lose control – not when you are dealing with 30 top professionals who are all millionaires. If they misbehave, we fine them, but we keep it indoors."

 

[torchomatic]

I take it things looked different on your own personal live feed of every game?

@ MMM...I take it you disagree that Thorne nearly wrecked Bigi's career. Maybe I was a bit OTT with my comment, but Bigi had to be left out of the squad for months because of the way Thorne used the boy. Anyway, I thought we were talking Football, for a lot of people football IS the real world(Ask covcityforlife). It was a massive part of my life for about 10 years. I owe what I've achieved to it.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ paulw.................Ermmmmm Where have I said Pardew had anything to do with the sale of Carrol? That was all to do with Mike Ashley!!!!

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ Torchy....Which part of "On the Radio slagging Bigi off" don't you understand?

 

[Loughborough Sky Blue]

Thorn didn't do that badly with him, got him a move to the Premier League didn't he?

Bigirimana was a another Conor Thomas; he didn't actually do very much but was overhyped because he's young and English.

ummm... Bigirimana is from Burundi, so not quite English!

 

[Hobo]

ummm... Bigirimana is from Burundi, so not quite English!

Rejected them and has played for England Youth selected by Peter Taylor vs Uraguay.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/10933-Gael-Bigirimana

Thread from 2011. Makes for interesting reading.

 

[dongonzalos]

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/10933-Gael-Bigirimana

Thread from 2011. Makes for interesting reading.

A lot of people from then, no longer post, if they do it is under a new account ?????

 

[skybluebeduff]

I still remember him against Leicester, he run around the holding area with not one single clue of what to do. He was terrible that day, and no better on other occasions that I seen him either.

I think League One would of been his level so he could find himself gain instead of loving himself instead.