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[Ian1779]

Totally unrelated and you know it they are re Sky Blues Trust not the Wasps or anybody else's trust. So two members of the trust board went to a wasps rugby game nothing to do with football but doesn't suit your agenda does it? One of those two goes to every city game home and away is missing the game tomorrow because he's going to watch Cov.
Love the way you and others on here are now so passionate about rugby clubs moving or is this a long term view you hold presumably you were angry about London Irish/Welsh and even Wasps moving beforehand? No of course you weren't because it's a different sport that doesn't mean anything to you unless it suits that is.

Where was your passion re this whole situation we find ourselves in when it could have mattered ?


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When exactly could it have mattered? How about when the club was signed up to an absurd rent deal that tightened the noose around it's neck.? Did you know about the deal at the time.. because I sure as hell didn't. That's when we could have made an impact but we were kept in the dark.

How well placed was this 'passion' when Board Members called for admin in the media whilst shamelessly crawling into bed with Haskell, because he promised them they have have their own little bit of the club?

 

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[Sky Blue Kid]

Hey Torchy....message from Joe http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/luigi.gif

 

[Nick]

Look at it simply, the majority of fans support anybody who says anything against SISU. It doesn't matter who it is, or what they have done in the past they will be a hero. Look at that video of Joe Elliott being worshipped and sung about like he was the queen. (even though he brought them in).

Same with Ranson, same with Hoffman. No doubt if Ched Evans had said "I wanted to sign for CCFC but SISU were bastards so I told them to fuck off" he would be hailed as a hero.

 

[chiefdave]

We have been asked to discuss these options (and others) my some members. We need to cover ourselves and will not make any decisions until we get a general consensus from the Sky Blue Trust Members. As individuals we all have our own personal views but sometimes we cannot allow our own individual thoughts to influence our members, so we are asking there views.

Before putting out a poll shouldn't all memebers have been given a chance to submitt views so potentially a more comprehensive list was made?

While I'm sure most of us would like to see changes suggesting SISU sack everyone is crazy. Firstly it's not going to happen just because you ask them to and seconly how do you know whoever they bring in will be any better. Maybe they'll bring Ken back, that would be a great success for the club!

Similarly with asking them to sell the club, who has expressed a serious interest in buying that the Trust are aware of?

As much as you say this is the result of a member request there were requests made for the Trust to comment on the actions of CCC. That was batted away as it was to be decided upon at a Trust meeting last Monday (a meeting not many seemed to be aware of). The result of that meeting seems to be an email which contains absolutly no mention of CCC.

 

[MichaelCCFC]

Nick
We have been asked to discuss these options (and others) my some members. We need to cover ourselves and will not make any decisions until we get a general consensus from the Sky Blue Trust Members. As individuals we all have our own personal views but sometimes we cannot allow our own individual thoughts to influence our members, so we are asking there views.

Steve, I reckon you and the other Board members should hand over to the people on here who seem to have the answers to everything and know exactly how things should be done!

 

[LB87ccfc]

Steve, I reckon you and the other Board members should hand over to the people on here who seem to have the answers to everything and know exactly how things should be done!

At least we would get somewhere instead plebs who think they speak for the thousands of CCFC fans when all they have been bothered about is getting faces on the TV and sleeping with an american who did not have a pot to piss in.

 

[MichaelCCFC]

At least we would get somewhere instead plebs who think they speak for the thousands of CCFC fans when all they have been bothered about is getting faces on the TV and sleeping with an american who did not have a pot to piss in.

I nominate LB87ccfc to be chair! Anyone willing to second that?

 

[LB87ccfc]

I nominate LB87ccfc to be chair! Anyone willing to second that?

Thanks Michael want a hug

 

[Ian1779]

Steve, I reckon you and the other Board members should hand over to the people on here who seem to have the answers to everything and know exactly how things should be done!

With respect Michael.... you're the one who comes on and posts your ridiculous rhetorical questions looking for ideas and then criticises everything people discuss.

Why not listen more to people on here. They have some good ideas.. or is it more to the point they don't suit your agenda?

 

[Nick]

Steve, I reckon you and the other Board members should hand over to the people on here who seem to have the answers to everything and know exactly how things should be done!

Ah that chestnut.

OR maybe listen to all trust member's feedback / thoughts in the first place rather than just the bits they want to when coming up with things like this? Some great thoughts fly around on this site and a lot of constructive feedback.

Shouldn't members be allowed to give feedback without being thrown the "you do it" line?

 

[Nick]

Just seen this:

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-fc-supporters-group-8503591

Seriously Simon?

Sack the board or sell the club ? Coventry City FC fans' group Sky Blue Trust to hold vote on club's future

That is a bit misleading isn't it?

 

[Steve.B50]

I nominate LB87ccfc to be chair! Anyone willing to second that?

He has my vote, more than happy to second that.

 

[MichaelCCFC]

Seriously, go for it and show everyone exactly how things should be done - LB87, Nick and Ian1779 #DreamTeam!

 

[Steve.B50]

At least we would get somewhere instead plebs who think they speak for the thousands of CCFC fans when all they have been bothered about is getting faces on the TV and sleeping with an american who did not have a pot to piss in.

No idea who you are, or do I care anymore.
Why not stop being anonymous, grow some balls and put yourself forward.

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[Godiva]

Both options presented are a bit extreme.

I expect the next statement will be something like: 'An overwhelming 82% of the votes show that the trust members want sisu to sell'. Not mentioning that only 16% of the Trust members actually voted.

 

[Nick]

Seriously, go for it and show everyone exactly how things should be done - LB87, Nick and Ian1779 #DreamTeam!

What is with the hashtag? That is nearly as cringey as my mum texting LOL.

This is the issue, people have only listened to what they want to listen to. The moment you give constructive feedback you get this.

I have always thought constructive negative feedback is the best sort, you can see how you can improve and where you might be going wrong to get stronger.

For example when asking for reviews about websites I like it when people point out flaws, issues, bad parts rather than the "thats amazing mate" type stuff. You can then take that feedback to fix things and improve. Getting stronger and developing is much better than saying "Why dont you build this website then" in reply rather than just taking the things on board and listening to them.

 

[Nick]

No idea who you are, or do I care anymore.
Why not stop being anonymous, grow some balls and put yourself forward.

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Steve you have an issue when people are anonymous but say things that disagree with you, but don't have an issue with anonymous protest groups?

 

[LB87ccfc]

No idea who you are, or do I care anymore.
Why not stop being anonymous, grow some balls and put yourself forward.

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I would rather eat shit to be honest than be associated with you and your little cronies talking out your arses in the media yet was jumping for joy at the possibility of having a little slice of the pie when Haskell took you for the ride along with old friends H and E.

I actually feel sorry for you thinking you can make a difference when all your mate Tim does is give you the gift of the gab and wipe his backside with your letters and appeals and sniggers - he does not give a shit what you guys say and this makes me feel very sorry for you.

Do you genuinely need to open a poll of either sack the board or sell the club, you should be demanding both for starters as no genuine CCFC fan would be against you doing this if you so strongly believe you will eventually make a difference.

 

[MichaelCCFC]

What is with the hashtag? That is nearly as cringey as my mum texting LOL.

This is the issue, people have only listened to what they want to listen to. The moment you give constructive feedback you get this.

Seriously, you would be brilliant as Membership Sec in charge of all the communications stuff.

 

[MichaelCCFC]

I would rather eat shit to be honest than be associated with you and your little cronies talking out your arses in the media yet was jumping for joy at the possibility of having a little slice of the pie when Haskell took you for the ride along with old friends H and E.

I actually feel sorry for you thinking you can make a difference when all your mate Tim does is give you the gift of the gab and wipe his backside with your letters and appeals and sniggers - he does not give a shit what you guys say and this makes me feel very sorry for you.

Do you genuinely need to open a poll of either sack the board or sell the club, you should be demanding both for starters as no genuine CCFC fan would be against you doing this if you so strongly believe you will eventually make a difference.

No LB, this is about starting afresh. The current Board should all stand down and you then take over as chair with the new Board being people off here who have clear ideas as to how things should be done. Nick would be brilliant as Membership Sec doing communications. Ian1779 is very clear on what ideas fans would get behind so he could do strategy.

 

[Nick]

Seriously, you would be brilliant as Membership Sec in charge of all the communications stuff.

Nah, I am not as down with the kids with the hashtag stuff. I have offered help with stuff I know about multiple times behind the scenes. I am not into all that job title and heirachy type stuff. I'd rather just lend somebody a hand if needed like I would anybody else.

 

[Ian1779]

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Maybe just an alternative organisation...

 

[Steve.B50]

I would rather eat shit to be honest than be associated with you and your little cronies talking out your arses in the media yet was jumping for joy at the possibility of having a little slice of the pie when Haskell took you for the ride along with old friends H and E.

I actually feel sorry for you thinking you can make a difference when all your mate Tim does is give you the gift of the gab and wipe his backside with your letters and appeals and sniggers - he does not give a shit what you guys say and this makes me feel very sorry for you.

Do you genuinely need to open a poll of either sack the board or sell the club, you should be demanding both for starters as no genuine CCFC fan would be against you doing this if you so strongly believe you will eventually make a difference.

Your Suggestion is?.

 

[MichaelCCFC]

Nah, I am not as down with the kids with the hashtag stuff.

Don't be so modest. You'd be brilliant at it.

 

[Sick Boy]

Great PR from the Trust once again. Confused, muddled and full of double-standards.

 

[Nick]

Don't be so modest. You'd be brilliant at it.

I have offered help with things I know about numerous times. If whoever takes over the role needs help or advice with things I know about (internet, web hosting etc) then I am more than happy to give them a hand. The same as I was happy to give anybody past or present the same help where I could. I am just not into the minutes, job title, heirachy, face in the paper type stuff. I'd rather just help out behind the scenes where I can like I would any other person / city fan whether I agree with their views or not.

It is all well and good you trying to make a point like that, I have put my money (experience) where my mouth is plenty of times when it comes to the technology things I have pointed out to the trust (the voting system / website) and haven't just said "it's shit", I have offered to fix it or advise on what could be done to make it easier for people to vote on things without the "reply to the email" type thing.

The same as live streaming meetings across the internet, I have never done that before but more than happy to figure out how it is done / provide things I can like servers to power it. I am just not into the whole thrusting myself into the public to get applauded, I'd rather just crack on with it and get things done.

 

[MichaelCCFC]

Your Suggestion is?.

Steve, you've got to persuade all current Board members to stand down because looking through the whole of this thread there are so many people who know what you're doing wrong and how things should really be done they'd clearly do a much better job. LB, Nick, Ian1779, Andreas and now Sickboy too! How many people do you need in total for the Board?

 

[Ian1779]

 

[Nick]

Steve, you've got to persuade all current Board members to stand down because looking through the whole of this thread there are so many people who know what you're doing wrong and how things should really be done they'd clearly do a much better job. LB, Nick, Ian1779, Andreas and now Sickboy too! How many people do you need in total for the Board?

Michael, get a grip will you. People don't agree with your views and methods, it is simple. People are being constructive with it. Instead of giving it the victim, why not try to listen to other people's views and thoughts rather than putting your fingers in your ears unless people are patting you on the back and agreeing with every word you say?

 

[LB87ccfc]

Your Suggestion is?.

Without getting too personal just a few off the top of my head would be -

* Grow a back bone and do not roll over at every little piece of information that comes out of Timmy's arse.

* Demand a fans forum that is held for trust members to be held with Fisher and Waggot due discuss the clubs future and their vision for the club, your letter has fell on death ears, the five point plan was released however does not indicate their clear plans for the club.

* You have the support of many it seems, use this to your advantage and galvanise your "supporters" by holding a demonstration of an empty stadium of a game of the trust's choice, can you imagine the nationwide coverage this would gain not one single person enters the stadium for the good of the clubs future? Can you imagine if this was a regular occurrence or are you satisfied with SISU's ownership.

* Offer clear constructive forward thinking plans and ideas that fans can relate too and get on board with instead of the attitude of its our way that we decided at the board meeting or no way, for example, I am not a fan of the trust that is my opinion ok, but I did openly state on here something needed to be brought ( demo etc) towards the council, yet this was frowned upon when I stated they was going to screw us all over... look how that panned out, oh sorry you are pleased with the agreement.

Listen to constructive criticism and use it to become better at what you are trying to do, some people may have a different opinion but an opinion that could make a slight difference in our current plight.

 

[skybluetony176]

Steve, I reckon you and the other Board members should hand over to the people on here who seem to have the answers to everything and know exactly how things should be done!

Screw them idiots, they can go and start their own supporters trust. With grendulls phone skills the club will be eating out their hands in a week.

 

[LB87ccfc]

Steve, you've got to persuade all current Board members to stand down because looking through the whole of this thread there are so many people who know what you're doing wrong and how things should really be done they'd clearly do a much better job. LB, Nick, Ian1779, Andreas and now Sickboy too! How many people do you need in total for the Board?

Michael I thought you was a melt in the media but I was definitely right lots of hugs.

 

[Nick]

Without getting too personal just a few off the top of my head would be -

* Grow a back bone and do not roll over at every little piece of information that comes out of Timmy's arse.

* Demand a fans forum that is held for trust members to be held with Fisher and Waggot due discuss the clubs future and their vision for the club, your letter has fell on death ears, the five point plan was released however does not indicate their clear plans for the club.

* You have the support of many it seems, use this to your advantage and galvanise your "supporters" by holding a demonstration of an empty stadium of a game of the trust's choice, can you imagine the nationwide coverage this would gain not one single person enters the stadium for the good of the clubs future? Can you imagine if this was a regular occurrence or are you satisfied with SISU's ownership.

* Offer clear constructive forward thinking plans and ideas that fans can relate too and get on board with instead of the attitude of its our way that we decided at the board meeting or no way, for example, I am not a fan of the trust that is my opinion ok, but I did openly state on here something needed to be brought ( demo etc) towards the council, yet this was frowned upon when I stated they was going to screw us all over... look how that panned out, oh sorry you are pleased with the agreement.

Listen to constructive criticism and use it to become better at what you are trying to do, some people may have a different opinion but an opinion that could make a slight difference in our current plight.

The empty stadium thing won't work. It should be fan unity first and foremost.

 

[LB87ccfc]

The empty stadium thing won't work.

And that is the problem Nick, everyone is happy to continue funding SISU to destroy OUR club

 

[Sick Boy]

And that is the problem Nick, everyone is happy to continue funding SISU to destroy OUR club

everyone is happy funding Wasps from their taxes to destroy OUR club