The Ricoh (12 Viewers)

[torchomatic]

Many other clubs have done it. Staying at HR was the prefered option for me. I was never really caught up in the new stadium thing.

There was a compulsory purchase order on the houses behind the west end

 

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[italiahorse]

Should make some people very happy if they change the seats.

The Stadium Consultation Group ?

 

[steveecov]

I think the excitement and atmosphere was more a case of having something to get excited about which hasn't really happened at the Ricoh. If we had moved to the Ricoh and stormed into the premier league I'm sure we would have a different view.

With the benefit of hindsight we should have stayed but how much would it have costed to completely rebuild 3 stands? You would also need to buy up houses behind each of the stands as we were pretty tightly locked in.

I have a vague memory of this being looked into at some point many years ago and it being declared a non starter but I can't really remember anymore than that.

Of course an old and decrepit HR with no rebuilt stands would be a better situation to be in than hte one we are in now.

Individuals did all right out of the new stadium (thank you very much).

A lot of people bought into the idea; but were never told what the risks might be.

To boldly go (da da da da da da daaaa), without the finance in place; ludicrous.

As with everything connected to CCFC; it's all about bad timing.

Hell we even won the FA cup in the wrong year; because of Heysel.

 

[chiefdave]

There was a compulsory purchase order on the houses behind the west end

For the club to purchase or a third party? Did any of them actually get purchased?

 

[chiefdave]

Individuals did all right out of the new stadium (thank you very much).

Funny how that always seems to happen.

 

[Astute]

I think the excitement and atmosphere was more a case of having something to get excited about which hasn't really happened at the Ricoh. If we had moved to the Ricoh and stormed into the premier league I'm sure we would have a different view.

With the benefit of hindsight we should have stayed but how much would it have costed to completely rebuild 3 stands? You would also need to buy up houses behind each of the stands as we were pretty tightly locked in.

I have a vague memory of this being looked into at some point many years ago and it being declared a non starter but I can't really remember anymore than that.

Of course an old and decrepit HR with no rebuilt stands would be a better situation to be in than hte one we are in now.

Some memories fade. Like the days where we were lucky to get 9k. But I love going to old style grounds more than the recent ones. For some reason you seem to have a better laugh in old grounds. And a right bonus if you get to go in a stand without seats.

Maybe it is me trying to bring back my youth

 

[Astute]

Many other clubs have done it. Staying at HR was the prefered option for me. I was never really caught up in the new stadium thing.

Get pissed in town. Get stoned in the Jubilee. Then head for the game. Can't think of any bad pints of HR imp:

 

[chiefdave]

Some memories fade. Like the days where we were lucky to get 9k.

I can vaguely remember a game against Wimbledon, must have been late 80s or early 90s. It was terrible weather and the ground was about a third full. At one point it was hailing so much into the kop that people had to turn their backs to the game. It was a dreadful game and if memory serves me correctly we lost to a late own goal.

 

[torchomatic]

Yeah, I remember low crowds too, but again POV changes when comparing to low crowds at the Ricoh, but that's a different argument.

I remember the Anglo Scottish Cup with 5000 there and we played MIllwall in the Full Members Cup once and although I can't remember the gate I can quite clearly remember the rows of empty seats. A bit like being at the Ricoh now.

Some memories fade. Like the days where we were lucky to get 9k. But I love going to old style grounds more than the recent ones. For some reason you seem to have a better laugh in old grounds. And a right bonus if you get to go in a stand without seats.

Maybe it is me trying to bring back my youth

 

[hutch1972]

I can vaguely remember a game against Wimbledon, must have been late 80s or early 90s. It was terrible weather and the ground was about a third full. At one point it was hailing so much into the kop that people had to turn their backs to the game. It was a dreadful game and if memory serves me correctly we lost to a late own goal.

Remember the dons game , half the kop were in the red horse by h/t. I think we won it in the last min.

 

[Astute]

We were top flight them days and some games were only 1/4 full at most. but we need to remember that violence was mainly at fault not HR....although the surrounding streets and having the park right next door didn't help.

 

[Otis]

I like how they come out and say they won't be changing seats, then if they do it won't be that they were lying it will be tim fishers fault.

They run it, they can do what they want with it

It's not that though is it, Nick. It's the fact that Wasps said they wanted CCFC to stay and wanted to work with the football club and said they would leave the seats sky blue.

CCFC though have said they have no intention of staying and therefore it is absolutely pointless keeping the sky blue seats.

The goal posts moved.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

It's not that though is it, Nick. It's the fact that Wasps said they wanted CCFC to stay and wanted to work with the football club and said they would leave the seats sky blue.

CCFC though have said they have no intention of staying and therefore it is absolutely pointless keeping the sky blue seats.

The goal posts moved.

I wouldn't say pointless, why would Wasps risk alienating the majority of there new 'fan base' by changing the seats whilst the football club remain at the Ricoh?

 

[Astute]

I wouldn't say pointless, why would Wasps risk alienating the majority of there new 'fan base' by changing the seats whilst the football club remain at the Ricoh?

Why go to the expense when they have more important things to pay?

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Why go to the expense when they have more important things to pay?

True, even so if they could afford it. It would be a dangerous thing to do whilst the club remain there.

 

[Otis]

True, even so if they could afford it. It would be a dangerous thing to do whilst the club remain there.

Dangerous? Lol

I did actually say if they could afford to do it. Obviously pointless if they haven't got the money spare to do it.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Dangerous? Lol

I did actually say if they could afford to do it. Obviously pointless if they haven't got the money spare to do it.

Yes dangerous, why would they risk upsetting the majority of people who are attending there games?

 

[Malaka]

I think Mr Fisher and his approach of denying that they wanted the stadium bit him in the arse. And now he says that CCFC have no intention of staying at The Ricoh another bit of bullshit that will bite him on the arse if the seats change colour. This will further alienate the fans, but that ain't the Wasps problem.

I liked Highfield Rd I think that it was worth 12 points a year to us. West Ham will struggle when they move as I think that the fact of being close to the pitch, fans who have sat next to each other for years being dispersed will reduce the atmosphere like it did to us. I don't care about the great atmosphere that can be generated when we play Chelsea, or our return to the Ricoh can generate, they are one off's. To watch the game, it is excellent, but to enjoy the crack and the atmosphere it ain't so good. And I think the place is jinxed, it has been a shit place for us.

 

[Otis]

Yes dangerous, why would they risk upsetting the majority of people who are attending there games?

The people that are attending their games are Wasps supporters. Why would it upset Wasps supporters to change the seat colours to Wasps colours?

 

[chiefdave]

I think Mr Fisher and his approach of denying that they wanted the stadium bit him in the arse.

A better tactic would have been to say we want ownership of the Ricoh but ACL is not performing well and is reliant on the club to prop it up. If from day one he had stated a business case for what ACL was worth and what terms they would buy it on then we may not be where we are now.

But I guess it's easy to be wise after the event and while I completely disagree with the tactics employed I can certainly see why they buggered off to Northampton. CCC and Higgs were continually insisting they didn't need the club, Fisher was saying they were reliant on the club, its easy to see why with the two sides taking those views there was little room for negotiation.

I suspect as much as an attempt to distress ACL Fisher thought he'd take the club to Northampton and by the middle of the second season (so around now) the accounts would come out and prove him to be right, as indeed they did. What he didn't count on was CCC franchising in Wasps from London at the same time they were complain about how terrible it was that we were playing in Northampton.

 

[torchomatic]

A percentage. I would think that a lot are from around here too.

The people that are attending their games are Wasps supporters. Why would it upset Wasps supporters to change the seat colours to Wasps colours?

 

[stupot07]

The people that are attending their games are Wasps supporters. Why would it upset Wasps supporters to change the seat colours to Wasps colours?

Come on Otis, there's a heck of a lot of CCFC supporters going to wasps games. If it's just wasps supporters going to the game who were the other 24k that attended their first game at the Ricoh?


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[SkyBlue_Bear83]

The people that are attending their games are Wasps supporters. Why would it upset Wasps supporters to change the seat colours to Wasps colours?

They aren't Wasps supporters though, to claim so is bizarre, you don't gain 10,000 supporters overnight. We know the majority are from CV postcodes (something like over 70% of all tickets sold I think, then we have all the freebies going around Coventry) and that a lot are on free tickets and a lot of those just going for entertainment/day out/something different.

Its safe to assume the majority of them from CV postcodes have no affiliation to Wasps before the move in 2014, I'd also wager a very high % of these have been to a CCFC game within the last 5 years.

Wasps are getting a lot of undeserved support from the local community at the moment, a sure way to lose that support would be to change the seats and going out of there way to upset the football club who have represented the city for over a 100 years.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Come on Otis, there's a heck of a lot of CCFC supporters going to wasps games. If it's just wasps supporters going to the game who were the other 24k that attended their first game at the Ricoh?


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If it was just Wasps supporters going to to the Ricoh they would probably be getting less than 8k (very generous estimate)

Otis is just playing the class clown.

 

[torchomatic]

Yep, 132 years of history vs 4 months.

They aren't Wasps supporters though, to claim so is bizarre, you don't gain 10,000 supporters overnight. We know the majority are from CV postcodes and that a lot are on free tickets and a lot of those just going for entertainment/day out/something different.

Its safe to assume the majority of them from CV postcodes have no affiliation to Wasps before the move in 2014, I'd also wager a very high % of these have been to a CCFC game within the last 5 years.

Wasps are getting a lot of undeserved support from the local community at the moment, a sure way to lose that support would be to change the seats and going out of there way to upset the football club who have been here for over a 100 years.

 

[Malaka]

As far as Wasp support goes, I had some freebies and went along, there were not many Wasp supporters there, they were Leicester, Bath, Northampton fans who just rocked up to watch a game of rugby but were supporting Wasps on the day. It was different mentality
NB: The women supporters were a lot better looking too!

 

[Gazolba]

There is a simple answer, Coventry change to Wasps colours. Easier to change 11 shirts than 30,000 seats. It's time we got rid of the sky blue anyway and you have to admit yellow and black is a distinctive combination. Maybe Wasps could become our new shirt sponsors? Another possibility is to keep the sky blue but as the away strip. Switch to yellow and black as the home strip, we already have yellow and blue as the away strip, we would just need new shorts.

 

[stupot07]

There is a simple answer, Coventry change to Wasps colours. Easier to change 11 shirts than 30,000 seats. It's time we got rid of the sky blue anyway and you have to admit yellow and black is a distinctive combination. Maybe Wasps could become our new shirt sponsors.

Distinctive? Like Barnet, Burton and Cambridge, Wolves and not too dissimilar to Bradford?


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[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Can't tell if that is a serious suggestion or a joke. If it's serious I'm just lost for words.

 

[Otis]

They aren't Wasps supporters though, to claim so is bizarre, you don't gain 10,000 supporters overnight. We know the majority are from CV postcodes (something like over 70% of all tickets sold I think, then we have all the freebies going around Coventry) and that a lot are on free tickets and a lot of those just going for entertainment/day out/something different.

Its safe to assume the majority of them from CV postcodes have no affiliation to Wasps before the move in 2014, I'd also wager a very high % of these have been to a CCFC game within the last 5 years.

Wasps are getting a lot of undeserved support from the local community at the moment, a sure way to lose that support would be to change the seats and going out of there way to upset the football club who have represented the city for over a 100 years.

It's not bizarre. I don't think I maybe explained myself properly.

The ground is Wasps. CCFC have said they are not staying. What I am saying is why would anyone going up to watch Wasps play at the Ricoh be bothered by Wasps changing the colours to Wasps colours?

Maybe I shouldn't have used the word 'fans.'

If people are going up to watch Wasps play I don't they would be the slightest bothered about Wasps changing the seating.

 

[torchomatic]

Aren't you still missing the point? A lot of fans, sorry people, going there are from Coventry, and most likely CCFC supporters. Would they not be bothered?

If people are going up to watch Wasps play I don't they would be the slightest bothered about Wasps changing the seating.

 

[martcov]

They aren't Wasps supporters though, to claim so is bizarre, you don't gain 10,000 supporters overnight. We know the majority are from CV postcodes (something like over 70% of all tickets sold I think, then we have all the freebies going around Coventry) and that a lot are on free tickets and a lot of those just going for entertainment/day out/something different.

Its safe to assume the majority of them from CV postcodes have no affiliation to Wasps before the move in 2014, I'd also wager a very high % of these have been to a CCFC game within the last 5 years.

Wasps are getting a lot of undeserved support from the local community at the moment, a sure way to lose that support would be to change the seats and going out of there way to upset the football club who have represented the city for over a 100 years.

Why is Wasps Support undeserved? They have put a lot into getting people to come and are doing well at their sport. It would, of course, be undeserved if the football club were putting more than them into getting people to come and doing better at their sport. But CCFC are not. They ( the owners ) are also pursuing a JR against their club's home city to boot, which the "interlopers" are not.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Distinctive? Like Barnet, Burton and Cambridge, Wolves and not too dissimilar to Bradford?


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My daughter pointed out on Tuesday that Bradford City would be better supported if they became Griffindor F.C/

 

[stupot07]

It's not bizarre. I don't think I maybe explained myself properly.

The ground is Wasps. CCFC have said they are not staying. What I am saying is why would anyone going up to watch Wasps play at the Ricoh be bothered by Wasps changing the colours to Wasps colours?

Maybe I shouldn't have used the word 'fans.'

If people are going up to watch Wasps play I don't they would be the slightest bothered about Wasps changing the seating.

Because a significant proportion will be Coventry City fans, who will (regardless of what fisher says) still harbour hopes that we will remain at the ricoh long term. Changing the seats will be a kick in the teeth.

You still want us to be at the Ricoh? How would you feel going to a wasps game or for that matter a Ccfc game at the Ricoh and sitting on a gold/black seat, whilst hoping we are going to stay long term?

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[covmark]

There is a simple answer, Coventry change to Wasps colours. Easier to change 11 shirts than 30,000 seats. It's time we got rid of the sky blue anyway and you have to admit yellow and black is a distinctive combination. Maybe Wasps could become our new shirt sponsors? Another possibility is to keep the sky blue but as the away strip. Switch to yellow and black as the home strip, we already have yellow and blue as the away strip, we would just need new shorts.

this is a joke, right?