Election 2015 (12 Viewers)
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Astute
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A lot of his voters didn't think this last time when they jumped into bed with the Tories.
James Smith
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Balls (Labour) and Reckless (UKIP) have lost their seats.
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Huckerby
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See that's the problem with this country Otis, everyone expects free fucking champagne in the fridge.
We have to get rid of our deficit because of the absolute mess Labour left us in. We do this by either increasing taxes (no thanks, i work bloody hard for my money and don't think I should be penalised for that), or by cutting spending that has got way out of control.
Unfortunately this is the reality, and the latter option pisses people off but it needs to be done. Better than the alternative of just buying votes by promising the world, then ruining the country.
But hey, Conservatives can do all the hard work and get us back to normal then hopefully in 10 years time when you've finished moaning you can get your free Champagne.
P.S I said fixing, not fixed
James Smith
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1 less ukip seat
UKIP cost Balls his seat according to the BBC. majority is now only 422 in that constituency.
James Smith
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Nick Robinson is losing his voice!
Houchens Head
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SlowerThanPlatt
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It's still a shock what's happened last night, regardless of what your allegiance is it's been a truly historic night in politics. Literally nobody could have seen this coming, nobody. It was being billed as the closest election in a generation and it's turned out to be a total disaster for both Labour and and Lib Dems and with that a possible majority victory for the Conservatives. It'll go down to the wire, some polls suggesting at this point they could be short by one seat. Either way, Cameron will be in charge and if you thought the the last 5 years were bad then you'll be in for a shock at what transpires with these c*nts in charge.
But they took Clacton I believe
They did but they already held Clacton
Astute
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Not a shock to me. Miliband? No thanks. Looks too weak to run our country. Lib Dems are finished at least for a long time. Ukip? Seen as racist by many. So who worthwhile was left to vote for?
If Farage or Boris were leader of a main party they would have a good chance of getting in. Farage has got Ukip to the third highest votes. Boris is Boris
The rest just remind you of a robot that will say whatever to get in.
Grendel
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It's a nightmare scenario for Cameron and I doubt he will sleep well tonight.
Otis
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Yeah, it's a fantastic result for the country. 65% of the country didn't vote for the Tories. Great mandate for the future that.
The whole system needs ripping up. It's unjust and unfair and as a result we will have 5 more years of austerity from a government that has only just over a third of the popular vote. No party (and this includes Labour, Lib Dems or whoever) should be able to run the country when 65% of the country don't want them in power.
It's a total madness.
dutchman
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jimmyhillsfanclub
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Spot on Otis......the whole system is farcical....
SNP get 56 fucking seats on less than 1.5M votes......meanwhile the Greens poll a similar number of votes & get 1 seat.....Ukip got 3.75m votes & still get 1 seat.....what a joke.
Democracy......my fucking hairy arse !!
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Huckerby
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Where on earth do you expect the money to come from?? Why don't people understand that we have to save money because it doesn't go on trees?
chiefdave
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Milliband might not last the day either. Labour HQ are pulling their MPs from media commitments, speculation is that they're being called in for Milliband to tell them he's done.
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Huckerby
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agree the FPTP system is terrible by the way.
bigfatronssba
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It will look very bad if Labour supporters start bemoaning a conservative majority from 37% of the vote after they said nothing about Blair getting in with 36% of the vote.
chiefdave
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Osbourne has borrowed more than every Labour chancellor in history combined!
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Not the thread for this debate.....but there are many other options than simply cutting benefits & services.
Back on topic....I hope Milliband quits as now, more than ever, we need a strong opposition......not some lightweight loser.
Also, one personal highlight for me is that 2-faced smug lying prick Ed Balls losing his seat.....ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....
Grendel
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It creates workable and stable government. It would be a disaster without it.
Otis
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And that was entirely wrong too.
No party should be in power with 36% or 37% of the vote.
Astute
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Do you mean like when we have 20 shots on target and the other side has one shot on target but they beat us 1-0?
jimmyhillsfanclub
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....but it does not reflect the will of the people......that's the point isn't it?
chiefdave
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Thats 65% of those who voted there's also 35% that didn't vote at all so the actual % of the voting population who voted Conservative is even lower.
How many of those that didn't vote would have voted in an alternative system where their vote counted for something?
Astute
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So no party would ever be in power.
The only way I could see something being better would be that if after the vote there was no party with 50% or more there would be another vote with all parties say with 20% or more included. If no party then got 50% the lowest party would be out. Should need 2 extra votes at the most. But then you wouldn't have any MP's from the minor parties unless you allowed for this somehow. But if you did allow for this the side with 50% of the vote could easily have less than 50% of the MP's :thinking about:
jimmyhillsfanclub
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PR, Preferential or ranked voting systems would all work better IMHO.......
......the SNP gaining 56 seats on considerably less than half the votes that Ukip gained on their way to winning a solitary seat highlights everything that is wrong with the current system......
......the SNP gaining 56 seats on considerably less than half the votes that Ukip gained on their way to winning a solitary seat highlights everything that is wrong with the current system......