hill83
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Read your posts. That's my sides gone again.
Back to Court on Wednesday 8th July 2015 (3 Viewers)
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Read your posts. That's my sides gone again.
johnwillomagic
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Notice the pro-council old sky blue has been very quiet within his thread following findings?
Is he in the council and if so has he been implicated......??
Is he in the council and if so has he been implicated......??
fernandopartridge
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Italia. The judges today appear not to be questioning the evidence, they're questioning the basis of the judgement against the legislation.
That can be done in 20 minutes as they'll have already had the judgement to consider
That can be done in 20 minutes as they'll have already had the judgement to consider
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Deleted member 5849
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I'll pick this out, inasmuch to say I'll be surprised if CCC lose this case overall.
Whatever you say about councils, whether pro or anti public service... one thing they tend to get right is procedure!
So, it'd be surprising if they didn't in this instance.
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In a general principal, it's probably best to have this done and dusted.
The fact it keeps to-ing and fro-ing however, suggests it's not really black and white, alas!
Kind of glad I didn't get a season ticket now, mind, as much because the season ticket for court might be more interesting
SimonGilbert
Telegraph Tea Boy
I would imagine Wasps would argue they paid the value of ACL without them as tenants/landlords and their presence has added substantial value.
But that doesn't matter. Because everything Wasps says is spin isn't it?
Nick
Administrator
I assume it is 100% fact the way it goes unchallenged and there is no way the media could catch them out.
SimonGilbert
Telegraph Tea Boy
I write whatever they tell me to.
Hahaha. Bravo Simon! :-D
Nick
Administrator
That much? I thought it was just a copy and paste from their PR team?
Surely the correct answer is that you believe everything printed to be true because of the investigations carried out before printing them?
I'm glad Simon can use wit, not like that other fella who gets all over the top and swears!
James Smith
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I think it is probably worth pointing out that at this stage that there likely won't have been a thorough examination of the arguments of either side. I expect that the only thing that the judges saw today was the skeleton arguments. The JR appeal judge will be able to dig deeper and ask more questions. So I don't think either side should be looking at this as a slam dunk just yet but Sisu did get the appeal. Whether this appeal turns out to be a disaster for the council or Sisu (it's doubtless going to be a bonanza for the lawyers of both sides) we won't know until October.
James Smith
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Sky Blue Pete
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Right to appeal whoopie doo! They'll still lose. Numpties! Such rubbish timing with Mowbray getting the team together
SkyblueBazza
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Surely their resources would be better employed focusing their time & energy on making good & visible progress towards a new "own" stadium? Rather that than chasing a cause that may or may not lead to compensation of some unpredictable amount...for a stadium they claim to no longer have any interest in!
...onwards & upwards PUSB
...onwards & upwards PUSB
dongonzalos
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Bursting at the seams with all the shit no doubt. Post more often thats when you seem to release it.
Moff
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Having worked for a period of my working life in the public sector, I think I missed the odd occasion when we did get procdeure right, perhaps its changed now under Ann 'Greater Birmingham' Lucas
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Having worked for a period of my working life in the public sector, I think I missed the odd occasion when we did get procdeure right, perhaps its changed now under Ann 'Greater Birmingham' Lucas
Ha, perhaps I'm lucky enough to work next to a committed proceduralist then(!)
skybluesam66
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my experience is that they do get the procedure right - but usually 3 years after and with twice as many people as anybody else
OSB is not in the Council but not unconnected
hill83
Well-Known Member
I genuinely find this disturbing. Imagine if there was someone 'not unconnected' to Sisu posting on here regularly with many hanging on their every word. The uproar.
hill83
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I wouldn't worry about it Nick. Yesterday's big news before the court case was that chubby bint off big brother getting a tattoo of jedward removed from her arse.
The council may have tried to seize an opportunity.
However, if our club had been managed correctly, or if, like most of us would have preferred, we stayed at HFR (so many ifs, I know!) We wouldn't be talking about this rubbish!
Can't we send Robinson all the bills?
Moff
Well-Known Member
I think he would forward some of them To Richardson!
Nick
Administrator
If they did and are found to be in the wrong or have done something wrong then would it be spun as a council screw up or nasty SISU costing tax payers millions? Can see how things are spinning up already.
Even better! I wonder if Joe can forgo some fake bake to pay his share!
skybluetony176
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Probably because the appeal hasn't been heard yet and the council may not be baddies as you put it.
The comment is only asking the question. Is no one allowed to ask that question. There's no suggestion in that comment that either side are baddies.
torchomatic
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Ah come on, Tony. Don't be so naive. This is the Telegraph we're talking about here!
Nick
Administrator
I agree, it is a long way off.
So what do you think about the stories about tax payers losing out on millions of pounds or the tax payer paying for SISU's new stadium? Plenty of speculation about how the tax payer is going to feel it in the pocket if SISU were to win.
skybluetony176
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The Taxpayer loosing out is a distinct possibility. I doubt that will be enough to build a stadium. Might be that the settlement if SISU win is payed in land rather than cash but I can't see SISU going for that. Most likely outcome if SISU win is that any damages awarded to the club (I'm assuming CCFC will be listed as an interested party in any compensation case that follows as they have been throughout the JR) will pay of some or all of the SISU/ARVO debt and SISU will then sell up and Waltz of into the sunset. We could end up coming out of a SISU win still without ground ownership, still in debt (but hopefully not) but SISU gone.
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Nick
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I haven't suggested the tax payer will be paying for a new stadium etc. My point is that if it is OK to throw suggestions like that out there for what happens if SISU win, then surely if SISU win the council have done something wrong?
skybluetony176
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If SISU win and assuming CCC don't successfully appeal then offcourse the council have done something wrong.
All I was pointing out is that the comment you have highlighted from the CET doesn't actually say that CCC are not the "baddies" as you are suggesting it does by what you say the comment should say.
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SimonGilbert
Telegraph Tea Boy
Always best to read past the headline.