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Jack Griffin
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Too soon after to be a reaction. This outrage has been planned for some time.
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Too soon after to be a reaction. This outrage has been planned for some time.
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Jack Griffin
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Hollande is closing the borders. Shengen is dead.
I get your point but they must go ahead.
derbyskyblue
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How??? France does seem to be a soft target and these nutters only have to get lucky once. No doubt at all there is plenty of terrorists ready to kill and die for the cause.
derbyskyblue
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Add in very porous borders....recipe for disaster.
James Smith
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That's a quote from the French Police and is just appalling. No wonder they went in so quickly if these cowards were shooting people. Horrible news.
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James Smith
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BBC are saying on teletext that three people were killed at the Stade de France as well, possibly a suicide attack.
CJ_covblaze
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Feel completely cold and empty. Hardly heard anyone speak about ours or any other game over here as it's become insignificant. Very somber mood. Really hope the game on Tuesday doesn't take place. Thoughts are with all in Paris.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Latest list of deaths and casualties
Bataclan: at least 100 dead, seven people in a critical condition, four others injured
Rue Charonne: 19 dead, 13 people in a critical condition, 10 others injured
Rue Bichat: 14 dead, 10 in a critical condition, 10 others injured
Avenue de la Republique: Four dead, 11 in a critical condition, 10 others injured
Stade de France: four dead, 11 in a critical condition, 39 others injured
Rue Beaumarchais: three people in a critical condition, four others injuries
In absolute shock here
Bataclan: at least 100 dead, seven people in a critical condition, four others injured
Rue Charonne: 19 dead, 13 people in a critical condition, 10 others injured
Rue Bichat: 14 dead, 10 in a critical condition, 10 others injured
Avenue de la Republique: Four dead, 11 in a critical condition, 10 others injured
Stade de France: four dead, 11 in a critical condition, 39 others injured
Rue Beaumarchais: three people in a critical condition, four others injuries
In absolute shock here
Covstu
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Thinking the same, root these bastards out
CCFC Germany
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So waht's the plan ?
Kill every muslim ?
The west allowed + promoted ISIS and they did beyon a point, where it can't be stopped anymore.
I am afraid, we will have to get used to such gruesome acts.
Ian1779
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To blame all people that are part of that religion is wrong. Most will be just as shocked, outraged and sickened by what has taken place.
The governments of Western society have helped to fuel this monster. They have sold them weapons and created a void in countries that these extremists have taken advantage of. A response has to be co-ordinated by all countries, all creeds. But the pursuit of peace has to be more important than the pursuit of wealth for it to be truly effective.
The governments of Western society have helped to fuel this monster. They have sold them weapons and created a void in countries that these extremists have taken advantage of. A response has to be co-ordinated by all countries, all creeds. But the pursuit of peace has to be more important than the pursuit of wealth for it to be truly effective.
Well, that is also what ISIS is calling for. Even death to those of the same religion who don't practice it properly - in their view. A better result would be that humankind finally sees religion for what it is - divisive bullshit - and comes to the conclusion that we may well get along better without it or any other dogma that involves hating or looking down on other human beings who live their lives differently.
Otis
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Religion is indeed bullshit.
It's not just an Islam thing. Listen to the KKK talk and white supremacists.
People who still believe in the plucked out passages of books written 2,000 years ago and written by mere mortals (and always men) are deluded beyond recognition in my book.
It's not just an Islam thing. Listen to the KKK talk and white supremacists.
People who still believe in the plucked out passages of books written 2,000 years ago and written by mere mortals (and always men) are deluded beyond recognition in my book.
The genocide of anyone who isn't part of a particular religion is still to come though arguably it's already starting. Let's see where we are in 20 years, frightening times
Nick
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Certainly makes you wonder about doing everyday stuff like going to watch a football match or to a gig...
Sky Blue Pete
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Good to know I'm deluded beyond recognition! Let us pursue all that makes for peace. Religion is an excuse, remove religion evil men find evil ways to make the world a shit place
Sick Boy
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Personally I am not religious in anyway and agree that it is bullshit. However at the same time i am able to respect that person'd belief even though it is completely alien to me.
99% of religious people are peaceful, why discriminate against them due to the actions of the 1%?
A lot of these fighters were most likely kids when the USA and UK started their 'war on terror'. The whole thing is one massive mess that could have been avoided.
99% of religious people are peaceful, why discriminate against them due to the actions of the 1%?
A lot of these fighters were most likely kids when the USA and UK started their 'war on terror'. The whole thing is one massive mess that could have been avoided.
Otis
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Marty
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Its a problem that is only going to get worse. It'll happen more frequently until its unstoppable. I dont know how to solve this but surely a good start would be to close the European borders. How our leaders let millions earlier this year wonder across this continent unchecked, I'll never know or understand.
You are correct Ian, however I do wish that the Elders of all the Mosques in the World would but there hands in the air and say publically that this is wrong. I think that even some Muslims are scared to say what's right in fear of being ostracised.
Nick
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Exactly, people calling for borders to be opened and thousands of young men from syria to just wonder in.
I respect religious people's right to believe what they want, but not the beliefs as such. When you declare a war - whether it be a war in terror or somerhing else, you must assume that the other side will take you up on it. We are in a war - despite George Bush's "mission accomplished" years ago. I am sitting in a station and can see the new arrivals from Syria ( the Front line ). This dispute ( in the M.E. ) goes back years and no doubt we had something to do with it. You only have to look at the borders where they are in straight lines, thus ignoring tribal and religious boundaries.
CCFC Germany
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Closing borders doesn't make sense, as the Charlie Hebdo attackers eg were born + raised in France. Plus you would be closing the borders on exactly those innocent people fleeing that terror !
What we do is have to re-think !
This wave of terror is the result of 20 years of destabilising the middle east by the Western World.
Maybe we should stop bombing + invading every country, that does not think that Coke + McDonald's are the biggest gifts to humanity.
What will happen next ?
Another country bombed / invaded probably, producing more hatred and terror.
This does not have to do anything with religion. This blood (plus Charlie Hebdo, 9/11, London) is totally on our (western world) hands...
What we do is have to re-think !
This wave of terror is the result of 20 years of destabilising the middle east by the Western World.
Maybe we should stop bombing + invading every country, that does not think that Coke + McDonald's are the biggest gifts to humanity.
What will happen next ?
Another country bombed / invaded probably, producing more hatred and terror.
This does not have to do anything with religion. This blood (plus Charlie Hebdo, 9/11, London) is totally on our (western world) hands...