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No real surprises there.

I think we have to assume he just doesn't have it. He looked miles out his depth when he did play for us, had an awful loan last season where he hardly played, and it's happened again a league lower. We also have Kai Andrews who has leapfrogged him. I would be recall him and find a club he will...

I know it's only 10 mins in but Middlesbrough Vs Hull is being played like it's a pre season friendly.

False 9 I heard, dropping into the pocket

O'hare off, he's been shite again. I don't think Sheffield United's style of play suits him at all, and Hamer on the left is just a waste of his talent.

Win Loss Abandoned Draw International break Tie Tie ?

After he blames the ref for being "desperate to even it up"

That Tom Watson's a cracking player only 18 and came through their academy.

Souttar can have no complaints about that.

He looked good in the clips in today's City Unseen.

I think they forget he bought in Harry Wilson from Liverpool and Andy King from Leicester on loan too. Derby wasn't made up of Chelsea Kids. And you are only allowed a max of 2 from a club.

This is going to be a really tricky window. It just seems a waste of a loan unless they are better than what we have, and we are going to offload someone. Bidwell would be the obvious choice given his age and where he is in his contract, but then your losing your only really experienced player...

Surely there are better options, if you're brining him in on loan with the view to develop, he's likely going to be second choice behind JDS. We need someone to come in and improve us as first choice.

No I'm not, I'm saying it's the end point that matters, and that is nearly always around 74 points. How you get there doesn't matter, but that's the target if you want to guarantee a play off place.

We were only 3 points off play offs switch 6 to go. We were the team in form, I thought we would finish top 6 at that point. Its not a shit model, we know from league tables that 6th place is always around 73-75 points every season. Occasion it's slightly lower but not often. So whilst form and...

We had 2-3 games in hand the season we got into the play offs and we're in a false position, after 17 games that season we had 23 points, and 2-3 games in hand. We had a 6 point head start of where we are now. We also had the two best players in the division in Hamer and Gyokeres, and weren't...

Its not just the gap, it's the total points. We'd need 57 from 29 games to get to the magic 74 point mark, your talking 18 wins, 3 draws and 6 wins or the form of the equivalent of finishing on 90 points over a season.

🤣🤣🤣 just looked and the highest fee they have paid over the last 3 seasons was £3.5m this season on Aleksic.

His legacy will be persuading BTA to sign for Cov instead of Hull 🤦‍♂️

Top 10 for me too. If we're saying we expect top 6 form from now on, then with the poor start, that should push into top 10.