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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Part of the problem here (alongside there being many unnecessary journeys) is that although tube passenger numbers are down massively, they've also closed lots of stations and reduced the number of trains, so those that are using it are forced onto a limited service, which completely defeats the...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    I'm slightly more optimistic. It's funny, something like this really does shake up your world view and bring home just how precarious 'civilisation' is at any given time. I've always had quite libertarian tendencies, but recognise that they'll have to be a change (and there should be). It is...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    You're obviously much better placed than me to comment on this, but wasn't it confirmed the other day that the measures announced so far are enough for companies that have insurance against this sort of thing (not many apparently) to make a claim? As for support from government, I'm really...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Cheers for that, really appreciated. I do web and graphic design, but there isn't really a need for that at the moment, it's not the sort of thing people want to spend money on right now. Fortunately my wife works in the public sector, so with her wages and a mortgage holiday we might be able...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    One consequence of all this is that in 3 months or so, gym memberships will soar. People sat on the sofa for all that time eating carbs isn't going to end well.
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Hopefully the rumours of the government subsidising wages up to 75% are true. I guess we find out later. Personally, I'm screwed. Work from home as a freelancer and I only started up the business recently. I don't know if I'm entitled to any sort of grant as that will be administered via...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Coronavirus: Italy's hardest-hit city wants you to see how COVID-19 is affecting its hospitals
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Anyone who is in any doubt should watch the Sky News report from Italy today. We have to do what is necessary. No ifs no buts.
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    22 Premier League next season

    No reason why this solution could not be replicated down the leagues. Leeds & West Brom up. Us and Rotherham up (Rotherham can't be caught if games in hand played out), Crewe, Swindon and Plymouth up - League 1 is a team short anyway hence 3 auto places and none of these teams can be caught if...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Yeah I'm aware of that. The article that graph appears in was quite detailed. Red is basically do nothing, the green line is social distancing measures over a long period which was the line the UK wanted to follow, and blue a model of very strict social distancing over a short period. I think...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    That's clearly the aim. This is a graphic published in the Lancet. The policy was all about avoiding the blue line and the second wave.
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Without wishing to over over all this again (so I will), the reasoning behind the approach was sound to a point (but my knowledge is such that what the fuck do I know really) and that point being that despite all these measures, it is very likely that most people will catch it at some point...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Fair enough. There's stuff I guess we'll never agree on, but probably plenty where we do. Like I say, I think he's stuck between a rock and a hard place here. He, like all other world leaders, is well out of his comfort zone. They have to act based on advice, and I think that's exactly what he...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Enjoy the darts and have another couple. I could do with one myself. I'll say this as I bow out. I'll defend him when a. I think he is right and b. If I think the criticism is unfair. As a centrist who leans left on a fair few issues, I'm not afraid to admit that I like him, warts and all. That...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Your use of the word 'he' is telling. It's all about him, that's the priority here. The theme running through this thread all day is to stick the boot in, and when he does what you want, stick the boot in again. Boris is fair game on all sorts of issues, fill your boots. Using this incredibly...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Somehow this makes sense to you. I'm lost. Just clarify. What do you want them to do? Follow the advice? You didn't like that. Bow to pressure and ignore the advice? You don't like that either.
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Point me to where any of those things have been said, by anyone, anywhere. Teflon? Do you think he'll come out of this we'll. The political point scoring is all a bit much. True colours been shown here.
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    Say about what? I doubt the scientists and doctors will have changed their views on how to tackle this one iota. The graphs and pie charts won't look any different today from what they did yesterday. What's happened is that public pressure has forced a change. They will argue that this was part...
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    It could also be that Boris has realised that the advice he has received and set policy around is potentially hugely damaging to him politically so he is taking some control. It's exactly what I'd do, I'd cover my arse big time.
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    Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

    I guess it's possible, although you'd think all options would have been discussed in the Cobra meeting and how much sway he would hold in that setting I don't know. I also suspect it was never the intention to use the term 'herd immunity', perfectly acceptable scientific terminology but not...
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