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I'm sure India is a nation of CCFC fans after that hugely publicised trial period.

I didn't miss that, which is why I stressed that a point could be valuable in the right context (e.g. away against a relegation rival or top team). But I'm not talking about individual cases, rather the misguided approval of "a point on the board", "the undefeated run". Eric Black is one of...

It'd be an improvement on last season!

Something the better teams (regardless of resources) understand.

It's really not about the first games. People seem infatuated with them. It's more to do with the utter toothlessness of Thorn's teams. I hate fallacious argument techniques, but what can you do?

Contextually, sure, a point can have value. As a general principle, it's not something to be celebrated. Completely depends on who the team is playing, what the standings are, goal difference etc. Think about it.

This is an important point. Fans are waaaaay too enamoured with "no defeats as yet", "unbeaten so far". Means sod all if you're getting weak draws. The point from a draw is well overvalued.

It's really not, SBW. We've had an entire season of AT; one ought to be able to identify managerial shortcomings/positives regardless of the team's budget or aspirations. I do agree that there's no point in sacking AT now, after he's spent a summer bringing in "his" players. So give him 10, 15...

Nobody is judging him on the Yeovil game alone.

Say what you want about the pros and cons of Thorn's leadership, but you cannot say that people are judging too quickly - he's been in charge for 18 months, not two weeks.

Taken out of context. Well done. To add: the interesting - and amusing - thing here is that you put such a premium on results, yet give your full and unconditional backing to the manager with the poorest results record in CCFC history. You'd justify that by adding some context (i.e. SISU) - so...

Straw man argument. I am not denying the importance of results. If I did, what would be the point in following any sports?

Man Utd wouldn't have the trophies they do if they were not one of the elite performing teams in the world. What we may consider lousy by their standards would probably be excellence for most others.

We did, it just didn't win away from home.

Almost never. You'd be wrong then. Read any book on sports psychology or coaching excellence and see for yourself. There's no shortage of feedback from winning teams, coaches and players on the championship mindset.

Nothing can be read from a single game. If SISU didn't sack AT in the off-season then there is no point at all in sacking him now. We'll see where the team is after 10 games, as well as the performances...

You have it the wrong way around. The best teams eliminate the importance of results from their mindset and focus on maximum performance. They recognise that with that, results and medals and awards and glory and honour etc will follow.

Indeed. If the performances had been better, the results would have been better. Results are the byproduct of good coaching - which we do not have.

Results are irrelevant; it's about performance. Never trust the lazy victory.

So last season the excuse was "we have too few players", and this season it is "we have too many players". Priceless.