That cross was superb, probably caught our players off guard a littleTorp looked good didn’t he, put in that one absolute beaut of a cross. Excited to see how he progresses next year as I think he’s a technically excellent player, just needs to get fully up to speed with intensity of league and role in team
Clearly notPalmer clearly has more natural ability than O'Hare. Doesn't make him a better player though.
Clearly not
Quite. Why do something in 2 touches when you can do it in 12?Palmer is at the same time one of the best and also most frustrating players we’ve had at the club in the last 10-15 years. In full flight he is majestic, but then overplays it and does something daft. The good news is that as time goes on the majestic is outweighing the daft, and he is still getting better.
Still bloody maddening on occasions though!
Which attributes is he clearly more talented in?Well he clearly does. Look at the start of their careers, one was obviously more naturally talented than the other.
Like I say, that doesn't make him a better player though or that he would have a better career.
This is not a controversial statement.
Because we are now aiming to be a premier league club....So if he turns into a completely different player, who’s consistent and has end product then he’s PL standard? Good to know. Not sure why it’s relevant to us though
Yes we are. And Palmer isn’t and won’t be a Premier League quality playerBecause we are now aiming to be a premier league club....
Ohare is now being marked alot more closely than he was in that period when teams clearly didnt consider him as big of a threat as he was presumably because after a year out managers just didnt expect him to be as dangerous, or perhaps just forgot about him (some management teams arent that great!)He’s 27!
Also on what evidence? When has Palmer ever been as dangerous as O’Hare was in that spell early in the year?
In cameos he can be. The talent is there and if any duo can get that talent out consistently it is Robins and ViveashYes we are. And Palmer isn’t and won’t be a Premier League quality player
Which attributes is he clearly more talented in?
Would disagree on nearly all the above.Passing and vision is miles above O’Hares, he’s stronger and a better set piece taker, probably about as skillful, more useful with his drives with the ball and less likely to end up down a cul de sac. Better shot from range, finishing hard to say cos O’Hare for three years and O’Hare for three months are very different.
Would disagree on nearly all the above.
Passing and vision they are similar, Palmer probably try more passes over a long distance which are often executed poorly where as O'Hare better with weight of pass and deft touches in around the penalty area.
O'Hare better close control and dribbling in tight spaces. O'Hare better finisher, Palmer probably marginally better at set pieces and long distance shooting but I wouldn't call it a strength for either of them.
Can we stop with this servant cliche …. He joined us freely, has been hugely well paid, and now is walking off freely after a relatively short spell with us. Great personality, very likeable … yes all true but certainly not a servant ….Some of the comments on here about O'Hare are outrageous. We expect players to be loyal and we treat a great servant like him in this way.
OK I take servant is a football cliché. However, he has been here 5 years, which isn't short these days, and there aren't many players who were here when he arrived. The main point I was making is that he has worked exceptionally hard and contributed massively during his period here. The criticism is totally unjustified and there is no evidence he has not been trying.Can we stop with this servant cliche …. He joined us freely, has been hugely well paid, and now is walking off freely after a relatively short spell with us. Great personality, very likeable … yes all true but certainly not a servant ….
It really isn'tI think Palmers final ball is light years ahead of O’Hares.
It really isn't
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Wright, Latibeaudiere and Palmer were all well below their usual level yesterday. Hardly surprising considering they had played four games in 10 days as well as travelling to the US and back.I like Palmer and think he plays some great stuff when on it; however he struggles to play more than 60 minutes or twice in a week. As a professional athlete that’s poor. Two games in three days and after playing for Jamaica you knew he was going to fade.
O’Hare isn’t tearing up trees but he’s the better player. We have a big game coming up against Leeds and he should start.
One month left of the season and his career at City, let’s see if he can drag us over the line. He’s been rested and with two top teams coming up let’s see him go out with a bang.
Wright, Latibeaudiere and Palmer were all well below their usual level yesterday. Hardly surprising considering they had played four games in 10 days as well as travelling to the US and back.
O'Hare is better in pretty much all the playmaking stats per 90 but apparently Palmer should get the start because his plasterer has to use a stepladder?O'Hare has higher goal creating actions and shot creating actions than Palmer albeit not by a great deal.
The key stat for me is progressive passes received, this is where O'Hare performs better. This is literally him breaking the lines to get on the ball and open the game up.
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Palmer on his day is superb but yesterday wasn’t his day and robins should have took himIt's telling that we have gone from Palmer won't play if Allen is fit to Palmer Vs o hare
I agree because I'm not biasPalmer on his day is superb but yesterday wasn’t his day and robins should have took him
Off at 55
I agree because I'm not biasIt's telling that we have gone from Palmer won't play if Allen is fit to Palmer Vs o hare
I'm sure he's got plenty of options, good player and wish him all the best, hopefully he starts tomorrow so we don't have to watch Palmer needlessly give it away all the timeAnybody had more info to shine a light on this.
From what I've heard he's definitely off this summer but not heard a peep about a club.
Is he actually just going to leave it to the summer and take his pick? Just thought there would be credible rumblings about potential suitors now.
It's possible to praise one player without besmirching another.I'm sure he's got plenty of options, good player and wish him all the best, hopefully he starts tomorrow so we don't have to watch Palmer needlessly give it away all the time
I think he will end up at Celtic - Not itk or anything just my hunchAnybody had more info to shine a light on this.
From what I've heard he's definitely off this summer but not heard a peep about a club.
Is he actually just going to leave it to the summer and take his pick? Just thought there would be credible rumblings about potential suitors now.
He has been taking Spanish lessons for a number of weeks, via player.I think he will end up at Celtic - Not itk or anything just my hunch
Good on him - I would fuck off to Spain tomorrow as well if I was himHe has been taking Spanish lessons for a number of weeks, via player.
So read into that what you will. I think a move abroad would suit him more.
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