In the palace villa game they were doing pre match analysis and someone said that a 25 yard pass in a game by Adam Wharton was ‘world class’ - well not really. It was alright but hardly that good
In the palace villa game they were doing pre match analysis and someone said that a 25 yard pass in a game by Adam Wharton was ‘world class’ - well not really. It was alright but hardly that goodWorld class does get banded around way too much these days
10 years ago 'World Class' was reserved especially for Messi and Ronaldo and that is it
I like Newcastle and think they have a cracking side but I side but I saw someone claim Bruno is 'world class' the other day - He is great but he isn't 'world class'
Why would strikers specifically get worse? Is it not just an evolution of tactics?To me the quality of centre forwards is way way down on what it used to be and no one can tell me otherwise. Players that couldn't even get in the likes of Brazils squads regularly would be among the best around right now. Actually English forwards too tbf, we used to have a good roster, or if you will, deck.
World class does get banded around way too much these days
10 years ago 'World Class' was reserved especially for Messi and Ronaldo and that is it
I like Newcastle and think they have a cracking side but I side but I saw someone claim Bruno is 'world class' the other day - He is great but he isn't 'world class'
Or the tactics are making the strikers worse, if they are coached a certain way from a young age i guess that's a possibility. Hard to say really, maybe i'm not objective as i don't really like what football has become generally. Find a lot of it a bit of a circus tbh. Used to love it, watch any football i could, read up on football, think about football.. now its just CCFC for me really, the rest is just noise.Why would strikers specifically get worse? Is it not just an evolution of tactics?
Did this happen to be in your late teens/early 20s by any chance?Used to love it, watch any football i could, read up on football, think about football
Hey get out of my head bro!Did this happen to be in your late teens/early 20s by any chance?
It's something i'd use to refer to the handful of best players at the handful of best teams. But its not something worth getting bent out of shape about tbf. I'd say our manager was a world class player for sure.World class is reserved for players that good they start for whatever team as they are the best in their respective position like Mohammed Salah, Van Dijk, Harry Kane
Agree. In England alone I'd say we have 4 world class keepers: Alisson, Ederson, Martinez, Collins.It's something i'd use to refer to the handful of best players at the handful of best teams. But its not something worth getting bent out of shape about tbf. I'd say our manager was a world class player for sure.
The modern obsession with xG has led to teams going out of their way to avoid shooting, while the equal obsession with AAATB football means the game has slowed down and in my view is far more boring to watch.Hey get out of my head bro!
Seriously though, psychologist bit aside there's a lot to hate about modern football. If you want to put that down to old man yells at cloud then I'm ok with it, but i think many people can see the issues.
The modern obsession with xG has led to teams going out of their way to avoid shooting, while the equal obsession with AAATB football means the game has slowed down and in my view is far more boring to watch.
The demise of Pep’s Man City and the rise of anti-Southgate tactics though gives me hope for the future.
I saw a thread the other day about overrated players back in the day and apparently looking back using various 'stats' the likes of Joe Cole and Jay-Jay Okocha were 'overrated'. Again i'm not going old man on this but if that's the conclusion you come to then sometimes its just good to put the stats in the bin and use your fucking eyes for once.The modern obsession with xG has led to teams going out of their way to avoid shooting, while the equal obsession with AAATB football means the game has slowed down and in my view is far more boring to watch.
The demise of Pep’s Man City and the rise of anti-Southgate tactics though gives me hope for the future.
Oh yeah don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty I also don’t like about the game today. And nothing wrong with preferring things the way they used to be. I just don’t like to say that things were objectively better in my day, when the game is clearly coming on leaps and bounds in terms of both ability and popularity.Hey get out of my head bro!
Seriously though, psychologist bit aside there's a lot to hate about modern football. If you want to put that down to old man yells at cloud then I'm ok with it, but i think many people can see the issues.
Its a different game , individual brilliance is almost gone replaced by Robots .. football isnt the samePeople are always saying this, think it’s just nostalgia tbh
The number of shots per game in the PL last season was the highest in more than a decadeThe modern obsession with xG has led to teams going out of their way to avoid shooting, while the equal obsession with AAATB football means the game has slowed down and in my view is far more boring to watch.
The demise of Pep’s Man City and the rise of anti-Southgate tactics though gives me hope for the future.
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Yeah the tactics are intended to minimise errors hence less risk taking more safe passing it around.Its a different game , individual brilliance is almost gone replaced by Robots .. football isnt the same
Nor should it be the same as it was 20 years ago!Its a different game , individual brilliance is almost gone replaced by Robots .. football isnt the same
Robins said this a lot over the last years he was here about football becoming more like Chess for managers. Sadly those moments of magic come at the expense of the managers control of the game.Its a different game , individual brilliance is almost gone replaced by Robots .. football isnt the same
I don't know mate, i always found it highly entertaining that neither the opposition nor Dele Adebola knew what Dele Adebola might do next.Nor should it be the same as it was 20 years ago!
There is still individual brilliance to be found everywhere - a broad rise in standards maybe means they stand out less? The idea that players being drilled better makes them robots is a purely subjective thing - personally I prefer watching when players seem to have a clue what they’re supposed to be doing.
Yeah, some new disruptive and successful way of playing will come along one day. Never stand still.Robins said this a lot over the last years he was here about football becoming more like Chess for managers. Sadly those moments of magic come at the expense of the managers control of the game.
Ultimately tho I do think it’ll switch back when new styles come over here (Relationism)
Nor should it be the same as it was 20 years ago!
There is still individual brilliance to be found everywhere - a broad rise in standards maybe means they stand out less? The idea that players being drilled better makes them robots is a purely subjective thing - personally I prefer watching when players seem to have a clue what they’re supposed to be doing.
It’s just a pendulum imo. I’m sure people felt the same in the past when for instance Queen’s Park in Scotland started to favour possession over a direct approach in the very early history of the game. It’ll keep changing based on what works and then tactics will be made to break what works and it’ll swing in a different direction.Yeah, some new disruptive and successful way of playing will come along one day. Never stand still.
The tactics I find best are whatever way you can to do two things:It’s just a pendulum imo. I’m sure people felt the same in the past when for instance Queen’s Park in Scotland started to favour possession over a direct approach in the very early history of the game. It’ll keep changing based on what works and then tactics will be made to break what works and it’ll swing in a different direction.
How dare you disagree with meYou're entitled to your opinion
Yes, we would. Wasn't born but does anybody remember or have family that remember what the feeling was when we became the Sky Blues and the kit changed? I certainly remember the backlash when someone (Jimmy?) apparently wanted to change our name to "Coventry Talbot".Tbf we would be fuming if owner changed us from sky blues wouldn't we?
When I was a kid remember Terry and Kenny Hibbit.Have there ever been top quality footballing brothers?
De Boer were famously twins.Off to research. Didn’t know Laudrup or De Boer were brothers. Both world class?
The Dasilvas.Have there ever been top quality footballing brothers?
It was worth watching at Barca but mostly because they had Messi. Remove his magic and it's shite.And I thought that was dull too. Fine if you like it I just find modern football a bit boring mostly.
Bloody hell you hve a good memory. I'm 2 years older than you and was only 11 when Isaac Osbourne last played substantial time for us and can't remember how good he was at all.Isaiah
I liked Issac Osbourne, unlucky with injuries
Sheaf also has a younger brother playing in the Nat League with Gateshead
Gary Thompson, Keith ThompsonHave there ever been top quality footballing brothers?
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