Alan Dugdales Moustache
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After two days of unbearable heat does anyone now have more sympathy with those who block motorways etc in the name of addressing climate change ?
Nope. Had sympathy for their aims before. Felt the way they went about it might be slightly counterproductive as it will annoy people and also holding up traffic just means cars are sitting there spewing out fumes for longer.After two days of unbearable heat does anyone now have more sympathy with those who block motorways etc in the name of addressing climate change ?
Nope.After two days of unbearable heat does anyone now have more sympathy with those who block motorways etc in the name of addressing climate change ?
Nobody to disrupt yesterday though, nature was doing it for them.None whatsoever - they should surely been doing it yesterday and sat there all day
Nobody to disrupt yesterday though, nature was doing it for them.
Nice. Inflict pain on people you disagree with..... still displaying playground politics I see. Thought you were better than that. Wouldn't be surprised of you are a complete Climate Change sceptic.They could have used the day to highlight the impact by burning in the sun
Nice. Inflict pain on people you disagree with..... still displaying playground politics I see. Thought you were better than that. Wouldn't be surprised of you are a complete Climate Change sceptic.
Nobody to disrupt yesterday though, nature was doing it for them.
They got the headlines at the end of the day and that was their aim so fair play, except for the public transport part.
This is what happens when you condition people to value money over all else.I’m on holiday in Ireland at the moment. It was hot over here for the past two days but not as bad as in the UK. I was watching RTE last night. They had a discussion between a scientist, who laid it very clearly on the line that farming practices along with a host of other things have to drastically change if we are not to face cataclysmic events, and a representative for Irish farmers.
Despite being told in no uncertain terms that life as we know it will end unless we change now, the farmer’s guy was still banging on about how much they had already done in reducing CO2 emissions and how it was unfair to ask farmers to do more. It left me feeling we have no hope. How could you not see that keeping your cows and sheep won’t matter a jot with what is coming down the line.
I’m 65 so I might escape the worst of it, but what about my children and grandchildren? The horrors that they might experience are scary.
Surely their aim is to get people onside, rather than faces in the paper?
None whatsoever - they should surely been doing it yesterday and sat there all day
Nice. Inflict pain on people you disagree with..... still displaying playground politics I see. Thought you were better than that. Wouldn't be surprised of you are a complete Climate Change sceptic.
Sadly, Reg, I agree with you. Don't forget India too - they are forecast to exceed the Chinese population in November this year, their power generation is 70% from coal, and their rate of building is generating HUGE amounts of CO2 from concrete production (as is China). Our contribution to global CO2 levels is a drop in the ocean compared to theirs. That doesn't mean to say we can sit back and do nothing, but it will only have a very small impact. The graphs about global temperature changes show that farming for meat (which has remained in the same ball-park in the UK for several centuries) is unlikely to have had more than a negligible impact on CO2 levels.We're doing our bit but until you get China and the Yanks on board, seems a pretty empty gesture.
Their aim is to keep the subject of climate change in the newspapers and keep the conversation going not their faces. They achieved that.Surely their aim is to get people onside, rather than faces in the paper?
Great post. For me the bottom line is we all have to take a hit in order to stop this. We have to learn to go without those things that, in their manufacture, are contributing ,ultimately, to our own extinction.I’m on holiday in Ireland at the moment. It was hot over here for the past two days but not as bad as in the UK. I was watching RTE last night. They had a discussion between a scientist, who laid it very clearly on the line that farming practices along with a host of other things have to drastically change if we are not to face cataclysmic events, and a representative for Irish farmers.
Despite being told in no uncertain terms that life as we know it will end unless we change now, the farmer’s guy was still banging on about how much they had already done in reducing CO2 emissions and how it was unfair to ask farmers to do more. It left me feeling we have no hope. How could you not see that keeping your cows and sheep won’t matter a jot with what is coming down the line.
I’m 65 so I might escape the worst of it, but what about my children and grandchildren? The horrors that they might experience are scary.
We export our carbon footprint to China every time we buy something made there whether it’s a completed product or a component in something we buy. It’s very very difficult to buy anything without the hand of China in it, especially true of anything electronic or with a battery. China is the world factory so we all own part of China’s carbon footprint to some degree. Despite that if you measure China’s carbon footprint by land mass or capita they’re far from the most polluting country in the world. The US I believe is the biggest polluters by landmass and capita. Historically we’re the biggest polluter in history.We're doing our bit but until you get China and the Yanks on board, seems a pretty empty guesture.
Their aim is to keep the subject of climate change in the newspapers and keep the conversation going not their faces. They achieved that.
Would you prefer they take the Government approach and just try and rinse every penny out of it instead?Yeah, the same as when the Trust just wanted to get "exposure to the plight" then thought they had fixed everything every time they made it into the papers.
You could get in the paper every day if you wanted to, it doesn't mean you are going to make any difference at all to the cause. Just get back pats.
Where I live there’s a drought and state of emergency until the end of the year. I admit it’s been an eye opener for me - it wasn’t something that I overly worried about before and I was wrong.Great post. For me the bottom line is we all have to take a hit in order to stop this. We have to learn to go without those things that, in their manufacture, are contributing ,ultimately, to our own extinction.
Yet there are an awful lot of people who simply don't see what's coming down the line. One day of record breaking temperature and the london fire service has had its busiest day since WW2.
Today it's back to normal and forgotten about.
We’re talking about it on here aren’t we? We’re a small community but this is the second thread I can remember on the subject. Some good points being made also, some people might be getting an education that makes them think about their own behaviour and personal responsibility. Maybe not but at least a sensible (for here anyway) is taking place.Yeah, the same as when the Trust just wanted to get "exposure to the plight" then thought they had fixed everything every time they made it into the papers.
You could get in the paper every day if you wanted to, it doesn't mean you are going to make any difference at all to the cause. Just get back pats.
Great post. For me the bottom line is we all have to take a hit in order to stop this. We have to learn to go without those things that, in their manufacture, are contributing ,ultimately, to our own extinction.
Yet there are an awful lot of people who simply don't see what's coming down the line. One day of record breaking temperature and the london fire service has had its busiest day since WW2.
Today it's back to normal and forgotten about.
So shouldn't this apply even more to those with even more things? Stuff like massive houses, a fleet of cars and a yacht/jet? I think they could go without them a lot more than me going to the shops in a small hatchback.Great post. For me the bottom line is we all have to take a hit in order to stop this. We have to learn to go without those things that, in their manufacture, are contributing ,ultimately, to our own extinction.
Yet there are an awful lot of people who simply don't see what's coming down the line. One day of record breaking temperature and the london fire service has had its busiest day since WW2.
Today it's back to normal and forgotten about.
Great post. For me the bottom line is we all have to take a hit in order to stop this. We have to learn to go without those things that, in their manufacture, are contributing ,ultimately, to our own extinction.
Yet there are an awful lot of people who simply don't see what's coming down the line. One day of record breaking temperature and the london fire service has had its busiest day since WW2.
Today it's back to normal and forgotten about.
So easy for people to just stop driving
So easy for people to just stop driving
Well with proper public transport and more WFH it would be
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