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skybluetony176 · Dec 2, 2020

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Hahahaha. What a sore baby you are.

We have a great bit of news and the first thing some people like you can think of is to try and mud the waters over the fact that considering we are no longer in the EU, it has sped things up.

What a sad, sad man you are. You do know there was a game last night too right? Why do you even come on here?

A) Only Mhancock has muddied the water.
B) The legislation came into place as EU members. I could quite as easily claim that it only happened because we’re still in the transition period and be as accurate if not more than Mhancock.
C) Remainers have been celebrating all day while Mhancock tried to lie about it only for it to be confirmed that he lied by brexiteers who themselves were celebrating the good news without trying to use it as an opportunity to politically point score by bullshitting.

Why don’t you take a day off, look at what actually happened, who confirmed it and accept that being neither in or out of the EU played any part whatsoever in the how and why the decision was made or the mechanisms that allowed it to happen.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 2, 2020

David O'Day said:
You're the weirdo who's first post on this was a celebration of brexit based on a lie by Matt Hancock.

Being not in the EU played no part in anything, this has been confirmed by both the regulators and no.10. in fact the regulators said EU allowed them to speed things up.

The irony of you calling someone a sad man

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 2, 2020

skybluetony176 said:
A) Only Mhancock has muddied the water.
B) The legislation came into place as EU members. I could quite as easily claim that it only happened because we’re still in the transition period and be as accurate if not more than Mhancock.
C) Remainers have been celebrating all day while Mhancock tried to lie about it only for it to be confirmed that he lied by brexiteers who themselves were celebrating the good news without trying to use it as an opportunity to politically point score by bullshitting.

Why don’t you take a day off, look at what actually happened, who confirmed it and accept that being neither in or out of the EU played any part whatsoever in the how and why the decision was made or the mechanisms that allowed it to happen.

Oh this good news day just gets better.

Look how determined you are. What a wasted life you live.

David O'Day · Dec 2, 2020

skybluetony176 said:
A) Only Mhancock has muddied the water.
B) The legislation came into place as EU members. I could quite as easily claim that it only happened because we’re still in the transition period and be as accurate if not more than Mhancock.
C) Remainers have been celebrating all day while Mhancock tried to lie about it only for it to be confirmed that he lied by brexiteers who themselves were celebrating the good news without trying to use it as an opportunity to politically point score by bullshitting.

Why don’t you take a day off, look at what actually happened, who confirmed it and accept that being neither in or out of the EU played any part whatsoever in the how and why the decision was made or the mechanisms that allowed it to happen.

It is a weird flex though innit, the post truth nonsense of stick to a disproven story in the face of all sense, evidence and reality.

Trumpian

robbiekeane · Dec 2, 2020

wingy said:
Be good to keep some of the time saving elements of working life, especially the green one's.

Agreed. Unpopular opinion but I have grown to love remote working. Be nice to have the option of going into the office but much prefer the flexibility. Spend two months on a beach in Mexico lol.

Fully understand it’s not that way for everyone though and I’m in the minority.

robbiekeane · Dec 2, 2020

Deleted member 5849 said:
I just hope they don't rush 'normality' until everybody's ready. By all means make it lighter and lighter, let people socialise with others if they want, but don't force everybody onto packed rush hour trains etc. until it's all as good as it can get.

Yeah it’s an interesting one isn’t it. It’s interesting how quickly people adjust to a new normal. When people get too close to me in a queue I find myself outraged and I want them to back off and give them a dirty look (quite rightly). Anxious if I have to get on a subway or train where I can’t keep my distance. Definitely won’t be getting in a crowded bar any time soon

fernandopartridge · Dec 2, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
He is right on one thing the EU regs still apply to us until January

Yes and their translation into UK govt law will exist beyond then in any case, all that changes is thar court jurisdiction / remedies

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 2, 2020

robbiekeane said:
Agreed. Unpopular opinion but I have grown to love remote working. Be nice to have the option of going into the office but much prefer the flexibility. Spend two months on a beach in Mexico lol.

Fully understand it’s not that way for everyone though and I’m in the minority.

I’ve thought for a long time that school should start later also. Proper sleep and people would learn far better

hill83 · Dec 3, 2020

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

U OK HUN? X

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 3, 2020

hill83 said:
U OK HUN? X

The High Gifmaster has spoken

David O'Day · Dec 3, 2020

hill83 said:
U OK HUN? X

He's really not

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 3, 2020

robbiekeane said:
Yeah it’s an interesting one isn’t it. It’s interesting how quickly people adjust to a new normal. When people get too close to me in a queue I find myself outraged and I want them to back off and give them a dirty look (quite rightly). Anxious if I have to get on a subway or train where I can’t keep my distance. Definitely won’t be getting in a crowded bar any time soon

Yeah. I understand letting people socialise more, and opening more business, as more get vaccinated. Until all the vulnerable groups have been given the option of being done, however, it's surely got to still be masks and distancing, and wfh wherever possible.

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 3, 2020

Meanwhile, if only they'd done this in early October!!

Covid: Some students not back until February next term

Universities in England are staggering the return of students after Christmas over five weeks.

www.bbc.co.uk

Ian1779 · Dec 3, 2020

David O'Day said:
It is a weird flex though innit, the post truth nonsense of stick to a disproven story in the face of all sense, evidence and reality.

Trumpian

Look at you coming on here with your truths.... and your indisputable facts..... trying to ensure accurate information is shared....

yOu MuSt HaTe ThIs CoUnTrY.... oBvIoUsLy

David O'Day · Dec 3, 2020

Ian1779 said:
Look at you coming on here with your truths.... and your indisputable facts..... trying to ensure accurate information is shared....

yOu MuSt HaTe ThIs CoUnTrY.... oBvIoUsLy

Truth is a commie BLM EU conspiracy of fake news

David O'Day · Dec 3, 2020

Right pubs that don't serve food are allowed to order takeaways for customers. Wet pub drinks will be order starter from place, drink in the hour it takes to arrive, eat, order main from place b and drink in the hour it takes this to arrive, eat, order pudding from place c and drink in teh hour this takes to arrive, eat.

Shambles

SBAndy · Dec 3, 2020

robbiekeane said:
Agreed. Unpopular opinion but I have grown to love remote working. Be nice to have the option of going into the office but much prefer the flexibility. Spend two months on a beach in Mexico lol.

Fully understand it’s not that way for everyone though and I’m in the minority.

I’m absolutely the same. Saving me 2 hours of travel a day, plus the cost and the freedoms to exercise longer or get a head start on housework during my lunch hour. My employer has said we will largely be adopting homeworking after this, which is a relief.

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’ve thought for a long time that school should start later also. Proper sleep and people would learn far better

How would this work in practice? Genuinely curious as I’ve never thought it started too early for people to get a proper night’s sleep. I mean, go to bed at a relatively sensible time (10-10:30) and you’ve got opportunity for a good sleep already surely? And given the majority (albeit a shrinking majority) of parents will start work at 9am

skybluetony176 · Dec 3, 2020

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Oh this good news day just gets better.

Look how determined you are. What a wasted life you live.

I recon if Mhancock said the sky was blue and it’s all thanks to brexit you’d believe him.

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 3, 2020

SBAndy said:
How would this work in practice? Genuinely curious as I’ve never thought it started too early for people to get a proper night’s sleep. I mean, go to bed at a relatively sensible time (10-10:30) and you’ve got opportunity for a good sleep already surely? And given the majority (albeit a shrinking majority) of parents will start work at 9am

I've always worked better early to early, anyway. Would have been happier when in school starting at 8, and finishing an hour earlier myself.

SkyBlueDom26 · Dec 3, 2020

09:22

Deputy chief medic 'hopeful' Oxford vaccine will be approved before Christmas
Asked if the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine might be approved before Christmas, Prof Van-Tam tells the BBC: "I'm hopeful that would happen, but it's entirely out of my hands.
"It's in the hands of the regulator, the MHRA; they take a very firm line and we take a very firm line that they are independent, that they must do what they do in their own time.
"And if that takes them a few weeks, that's fine.
"If it has to take them a few months, because they have to ask further questions, or they need a piece more data from the manufacturer, that's also fine.
"We go at the speed of science on that one, we do not rush them in any way, shape or form - that's utterly wrong."

ajsccfc · Dec 3, 2020

Like that. While I want to hear that they're approving them for use, I'm happier to hear nobody wants to cut corners in the process.

shmmeee · Dec 3, 2020

SBAndy said:
I’m absolutely the same. Saving me 2 hours of travel a day, plus the cost and the freedoms to exercise longer or get a head start on housework during my lunch hour. My employer has said we will largely be adopting homeworking after this, which is a relief.

How would this work in practice? Genuinely curious as I’ve never thought it started too early for people to get a proper night’s sleep. I mean, go to bed at a relatively sensible time (10-10:30) and you’ve got opportunity for a good sleep already surely? And given the majority (albeit a shrinking majority) of parents will start work at 9am

There’s a fair bit of evidence teenager body clocks are significantly different from adults/young children I believe.

The biological reason why it’s so hard for teenagers to wake up early for school

Science shows that early starts can be bad for teenagers’ health. Schools and universities would be better off starting at 10am.

theconversation.com

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 3, 2020

hill83 said:
U OK HUN? X

Inbox me XXX

Ccfcisparks · Dec 3, 2020

Just seen the pictures from yesterday with bars opening in some places. Unbelievable to see, give people an inch and they will take a mile.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 3, 2020

skybluetony176 said:
I recon if Mhancock said the sky was blue and it’s all thanks to brexit you’d believe him.

You mean that the sky being blue is not because of brexit?

Next you'll be telling me the big red bus was a lie!

shmmeee · Dec 3, 2020

If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.

We'll_live_and_die · Dec 3, 2020

Ccfcisparks said:
Just seen the pictures from yesterday with bars opening in some places. Unbelievable to see, give people an inch and they will take a mile.

I nipped up to Bedworth town yesterday, bear in mind it still has bugger all shops.......IT WAS HEAVING.

Lock people up for a month and there'll always be a mad rush when you open back up.

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 3, 2020

Rich said:
I nipped up to Bedworth town yesterday, bear in mind it still has bugger all shops.......IT WAS HEAVING.

Lock people up for a month and there'll always be a mad rush when you open back up.

All in the opticians then?!?

There's sod all there for people to go to!

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 3, 2020

ajsccfc said:
Like that. While I want to hear that they're approving them for use, I'm happier to hear nobody wants to cut corners in the process.

Yeah, I was concerning myself by reading about the swine flu vaccine they developed, that caused side effects. That, however, was rushed through without the proper regulatory process. What's a few months after all, compared to a lifetime of wellness or illness?

Skybluefaz · Dec 3, 2020

shmmeee said:
If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.

Sounds pretty perfick to me

hill83 · Dec 3, 2020

shmmeee said:
If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.

Depends where you live though surely? Lived in Eastern Green for 3 years and it's a desolate wasteland with absolutely fuck all about it other than twitchy curtain nimbys. There was a better community spirit and more amenities when I lived in Hillfields.
Back in Earlsdon now and it's bustling still.

Edit: I suppose Earlsdon is a good example of what you are saying though.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 3, 2020

shmmeee said:
If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.

I agree with you.

I also have a strong suspicion you've had a smokey smoke this morning based on that hippy proposition!

SkyBlueDom26 · Dec 3, 2020

shmmeee said:
If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.

Keep masks during next winter? No thanks what's the point if by then we'll have multiple vaccines out and distributed across the world and the pandemic should be over

Skybluefaz · Dec 3, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Keep masks during next winter? No thanks what's the point if by then we'll have multiple vaccines out and distributed across the world and the pandemic should be over

To reduce transmission of all the other shitty winter illnesses?

David O'Day · Dec 3, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Keep masks during next winter? No thanks what's the point if by then we'll have multiple vaccines out and distributed across the world and the pandemic should be over

because other viruses exist

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