Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (156 Viewers)

robbiekeane

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Be good to keep some of the time saving elements of working life, especially the green one's.
Agreed. Unpopular opinion but I have grown to love remote working. Be nice to have the option of going into the office but much prefer the flexibility. Spend two months on a beach in Mexico lol.

Fully understand it’s not that way for everyone though and I’m in the minority.
 

robbiekeane

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I just hope they don't rush 'normality' until everybody's ready. By all means make it lighter and lighter, let people socialise with others if they want, but don't force everybody onto packed rush hour trains etc. until it's all as good as it can get.
Yeah it’s an interesting one isn’t it. It’s interesting how quickly people adjust to a new normal. When people get too close to me in a queue I find myself outraged and I want them to back off and give them a dirty look (quite rightly). Anxious if I have to get on a subway or train where I can’t keep my distance. Definitely won’t be getting in a crowded bar any time soon
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Agreed. Unpopular opinion but I have grown to love remote working. Be nice to have the option of going into the office but much prefer the flexibility. Spend two months on a beach in Mexico lol.

Fully understand it’s not that way for everyone though and I’m in the minority.

I’ve thought for a long time that school should start later also. Proper sleep and people would learn far better
 

hill83

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Yeah it’s an interesting one isn’t it. It’s interesting how quickly people adjust to a new normal. When people get too close to me in a queue I find myself outraged and I want them to back off and give them a dirty look (quite rightly). Anxious if I have to get on a subway or train where I can’t keep my distance. Definitely won’t be getting in a crowded bar any time soon
Yeah. I understand letting people socialise more, and opening more business, as more get vaccinated. Until all the vulnerable groups have been given the option of being done, however, it's surely got to still be masks and distancing, and wfh wherever possible.
 

Ian1779

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It is a weird flex though innit, the post truth nonsense of stick to a disproven story in the face of all sense, evidence and reality.

Trumpian
Look at you coming on here with your truths.... and your indisputable facts..... trying to ensure accurate information is shared....

yOu MuSt HaTe ThIs CoUnTrY.... oBvIoUsLy
 

David O'Day

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Right pubs that don't serve food are allowed to order takeaways for customers. Wet pub drinks will be order starter from place, drink in the hour it takes to arrive, eat, order main from place b and drink in the hour it takes this to arrive, eat, order pudding from place c and drink in teh hour this takes to arrive, eat.

Shambles
 

SBAndy

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Agreed. Unpopular opinion but I have grown to love remote working. Be nice to have the option of going into the office but much prefer the flexibility. Spend two months on a beach in Mexico lol.

Fully understand it’s not that way for everyone though and I’m in the minority.

I’m absolutely the same. Saving me 2 hours of travel a day, plus the cost and the freedoms to exercise longer or get a head start on housework during my lunch hour. My employer has said we will largely be adopting homeworking after this, which is a relief.

I’ve thought for a long time that school should start later also. Proper sleep and people would learn far better

How would this work in practice? Genuinely curious as I’ve never thought it started too early for people to get a proper night’s sleep. I mean, go to bed at a relatively sensible time (10-10:30) and you’ve got opportunity for a good sleep already surely? And given the majority (albeit a shrinking majority) of parents will start work at 9am
 
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How would this work in practice? Genuinely curious as I’ve never thought it started too early for people to get a proper night’s sleep. I mean, go to bed at a relatively sensible time (10-10:30) and you’ve got opportunity for a good sleep already surely? And given the majority (albeit a shrinking majority) of parents will start work at 9am
I've always worked better early to early, anyway. Would have been happier when in school starting at 8, and finishing an hour earlier myself.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Deputy chief medic 'hopeful' Oxford vaccine will be approved before Christmas
Asked if the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine might be approved before Christmas, Prof Van-Tam tells the BBC: "I'm hopeful that would happen, but it's entirely out of my hands.
"It's in the hands of the regulator, the MHRA; they take a very firm line and we take a very firm line that they are independent, that they must do what they do in their own time.
"And if that takes them a few weeks, that's fine.
"If it has to take them a few months, because they have to ask further questions, or they need a piece more data from the manufacturer, that's also fine.
"We go at the speed of science on that one, we do not rush them in any way, shape or form - that's utterly wrong."
 

shmmeee

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I’m absolutely the same. Saving me 2 hours of travel a day, plus the cost and the freedoms to exercise longer or get a head start on housework during my lunch hour. My employer has said we will largely be adopting homeworking after this, which is a relief.



How would this work in practice? Genuinely curious as I’ve never thought it started too early for people to get a proper night’s sleep. I mean, go to bed at a relatively sensible time (10-10:30) and you’ve got opportunity for a good sleep already surely? And given the majority (albeit a shrinking majority) of parents will start work at 9am

There’s a fair bit of evidence teenager body clocks are significantly different from adults/young children I believe.

 

Ccfcisparks

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Just seen the pictures from yesterday with bars opening in some places. Unbelievable to see, give people an inch and they will take a mile.
 

shmmeee

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If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.
 

We'll_live_and_die

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Just seen the pictures from yesterday with bars opening in some places. Unbelievable to see, give people an inch and they will take a mile.
I nipped up to Bedworth town yesterday, bear in mind it still has bugger all shops.......IT WAS HEAVING.

Lock people up for a month and there'll always be a mad rush when you open back up.
 
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I nipped up to Bedworth town yesterday, bear in mind it still has bugger all shops.......IT WAS HEAVING.

Lock people up for a month and there'll always be a mad rush when you open back up.
All in the opticians then?!?

There's sod all there for people to go to!
 
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Like that. While I want to hear that they're approving them for use, I'm happier to hear nobody wants to cut corners in the process.
Yeah, I was concerning myself by reading about the swine flu vaccine they developed, that caused side effects. That, however, was rushed through without the proper regulatory process. What's a few months after all, compared to a lifetime of wellness or illness?
 

Skybluefaz

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If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.
Sounds pretty perfick to me
 

hill83

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If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.

Depends where you live though surely? Lived in Eastern Green for 3 years and it's a desolate wasteland with absolutely fuck all about it other than twitchy curtain nimbys. There was a better community spirit and more amenities when I lived in Hillfields.
Back in Earlsdon now and it's bustling still.

Edit: I suppose Earlsdon is a good example of what you are saying though.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.

I agree with you.

I also have a strong suspicion you've had a smokey smoke this morning based on that hippy proposition!
 

SkyBlueDom26

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If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.
Keep masks during next winter? No thanks what's the point if by then we'll have multiple vaccines out and distributed across the world and the pandemic should be over
 

chiefdave

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Just seen the pictures from yesterday with bars opening in some places. Unbelievable to see, give people an inch and they will take a mile.
This was my concern as soon as the government started talking about people having to use their own sense of judgement. Seeing pictures of people queuing for hours outside Primark before it opened and pubs stretching 'substantial food' to its absolute limit hasn't eased my concerns.
 

chiefdave

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If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.
Completely agree with this but suspect there will be a push to go back to the old ways. We had a meeting at work where we had to go round every person in the company saying if we preferred WFH or being in the office. Literally everyone said WFH was better for them. We then got a memo with instructions for a phased return to the office! Makes no sense, its not like work isn't being done productivity is up.

Of course companies will still have an office presence, nobody is suggesting getting rid of offices completely. But if we can keep huge numbers of people off roads and public transport, improving their quality of life while revitalising local areas what's the downside? I'm not seeing one. My only concern would be, as hill mentioned, that the 'poorer' areas don't get left behind in terms of local amenities.

This was it seems already a direction being pushed before covid, go on YouTube and search 15 minute cities and there's some pretty interesting stuff on there. The basic premise is everything you need should be available to you within a 15 minute journey (walk, cycle or public transport) without needing to drive miles.
 

chiefdave

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In fairness though, we've never felt the need for masks in the past.
The suggestion from Hancock the other day was that we retain testing capacity in the future and use it for things like flu. A change of mindset from we must carry on no matter what to making an effort to stop things spreading around. Things like people actually staying at home if they are ill rather than going into the office to spread it around.

If they can do it in other countries why can't we? Are we really that stubborn that we'd rather risk illness instead of wearing a mask when popping to the shops?
 

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