Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (15 Viewers)

chiefdave

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Just seen the pictures from yesterday with bars opening in some places. Unbelievable to see, give people an inch and they will take a mile.
This was my concern as soon as the government started talking about people having to use their own sense of judgement. Seeing pictures of people queuing for hours outside Primark before it opened and pubs stretching 'substantial food' to its absolute limit hasn't eased my concerns.
 

chiefdave

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If we’re resetting society, let’s keep WFH, keep masks during winter, keep people walking around their local community, keep parents being able to drop and collect their kids.

Make it all about localism. Don’t try and save city centres and big stores, help local areas have good quality independent grocery stores and butchers/grocers (is remove business rates for these sorts of business). Make them walkable/cyclable. Make spaces for co working to happen.

Let’s get back to proper communities. We won’t have another chance like this and at the heart of both left and right wing radicalism is a yearning for community IMO.
Completely agree with this but suspect there will be a push to go back to the old ways. We had a meeting at work where we had to go round every person in the company saying if we preferred WFH or being in the office. Literally everyone said WFH was better for them. We then got a memo with instructions for a phased return to the office! Makes no sense, its not like work isn't being done productivity is up.

Of course companies will still have an office presence, nobody is suggesting getting rid of offices completely. But if we can keep huge numbers of people off roads and public transport, improving their quality of life while revitalising local areas what's the downside? I'm not seeing one. My only concern would be, as hill mentioned, that the 'poorer' areas don't get left behind in terms of local amenities.

This was it seems already a direction being pushed before covid, go on YouTube and search 15 minute cities and there's some pretty interesting stuff on there. The basic premise is everything you need should be available to you within a 15 minute journey (walk, cycle or public transport) without needing to drive miles.
 

chiefdave

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In fairness though, we've never felt the need for masks in the past.
The suggestion from Hancock the other day was that we retain testing capacity in the future and use it for things like flu. A change of mindset from we must carry on no matter what to making an effort to stop things spreading around. Things like people actually staying at home if they are ill rather than going into the office to spread it around.

If they can do it in other countries why can't we? Are we really that stubborn that we'd rather risk illness instead of wearing a mask when popping to the shops?
 

hill83

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as hill mentioned, that the 'poorer' areas don't get left behind in terms of local amenities

I wouldn't even say the poorer areas. More the hiding away from real life suburbs. Finham springs to mind. (I've also lived there)
There is absolutely nothing going on there and they are up in arms about any change.
 
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Things like people actually staying at home if they are ill rather than going into the office to spread it around.
That would take a bit of a shift, mind. I've had two periods of illness since June, and they were my first illnesses since about 2015. I've noticed if I take another one before the end of December, I automatically get a warning.

So there's not much incentive for me to do other than struggle on, if they're non-Covid ailments!
 

ajsccfc

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I'd be happy for all the little signs staying up reminding strangers to keep their distance in queues and that kind of thing but I can't wait for the day we don't have to bother with masks.
 

ajsccfc

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I'd be happy with the Russian vaccine but only if they release it and let others confirm it's safe and effective rather than IS GOOD, TRUST ME COMRADE
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I’m absolutely the same. Saving me 2 hours of travel a day, plus the cost and the freedoms to exercise longer or get a head start on housework during my lunch hour. My employer has said we will largely be adopting homeworking after this, which is a relief.



How would this work in practice? Genuinely curious as I’ve never thought it started too early for people to get a proper night’s sleep. I mean, go to bed at a relatively sensible time (10-10:30) and you’ve got opportunity for a good sleep already surely? And given the majority (albeit a shrinking majority) of parents will start work at 9am

I find it very hard to get going early in the morning as more of a night owl. The main thing though is teenagers, they genuinely need more sleep than most
 

Liquid Gold

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I'm able to go into the office when I please now, apart from when we're in full lockdown, and it suits me down to the ground. Probably do two days a week there and the rest at home. We're likely to stay that way too.

I will mot likely avoid applying for or accepting jobs at places that aren't majority WFH now.
 

Bugsy

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I just wanna be able to fucking dance shit on the dance floor again 🤣
 

hill83

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I just wanna be able to fucking dance shit on the dance floor again 🤣

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Bugsy

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chiefdave

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I wouldn't even say the poorer areas. More the hiding away from real life suburbs. Finham springs to mind. (I've also lived there)
There is absolutely nothing going on there and they are up in arms about any change.
Fair point. I live in Finham and thinking about it when things are back to normal if I was still working from home and decided I wanted to pop out for a coffee or to grab lunch unless its a pub visit then its a case of getting in the car to go somewhere.

You'd hope if more people are spending their days in the local area then the facilities would improve. There's plenty of places that would be well suited to cafes, coffee shops etc. Would be great to see smaller, local, businesses thrive.
 
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Fair point. I live in Finham and thinking about it when things are back to normal if I was still working from home and decided I wanted to pop out for a coffee or to grab lunch unless its a pub visit then its a case of getting in the car to go somewhere.

You'd hope if more people are spending their days in the local area then the facilities would improve. There's plenty of places that would be well suited to cafes, coffee shops etc. Would be great to see smaller, local, businesses thrive.
It's be Costa, Greegs, Starbucks, McDonald's
 

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