hill83
Well-Known Member
Whichever one you are in will do x
Well do you want the top or bottom bunk in your cell?
The numbers are late today which usually means a big number, especially if they're estimating an increase in the R rate.
Whichever one you are in will do x
With a headline like this, we know what's inevitable...
Covid: Boris Johnson 'hoping to avoid' national lockdown
No 10 sources said the PM chaired meetings on Friday amid "growing concerns" about Covid infection rates.www.bbc.co.uk
If/when we do this, can we do it properly this time and not allow places like B&M stay open because they sell a few chocolate bars. It just encourages people to go out. Furlough scheme is there, and provide additional targeted financial support.
Part of my frustration at this point is that I’ve adhered to the rules, barely left the house for months aside from the weekly food shop or my morning runs and now it’s spoken like relaxing for this 5 days over Christmas will be the most heinous crime.
Hard to see why lessons aren't being learnt from what has happened in US since so many ignored the Thanksgiving warnings. Again warnings were used rather than measures enforced. Faucci saying post Xmas there will be worse because it is a longer holiday.A third lockdown there will be inevitable because of the relaxations over the Christmas. Yet again the government is more concerned about being popular in the short-term rather than taking the right decisions, absolutely dreadful leadership.
Hard to see why lessons aren't being learnt from what has happened in US since so many ignored the Thanksgiving warnings. Again warnings were used rather than measures enforced. Faucci saying post Xmas there will be worse because it is a longer holiday.
I agree there is almost no doubt that case numbers will increase but when did we become of country of people not wanting to take personal responsibility ?!
We all know the risks and people are rightly making their own choices depending on their own personal circumstances. I’m choosing not to see my higher risk mum and step dad but why should it be illegal for others to make a different choice, especially if they are alone, may not have many Christmas’ left etc etc ?!
I’d like to see the latest stats about people’s exercise/attempts to improve own health/fitness etc which we all know improves people’s chances of survival and helps minimise the impact of Covid for most people. From the stats after the first wave in which all age groups other than over 65s saw their exercise levels decrease, it appears the country (and I’m guessing a lot of the western world) want everything closed down but then not even willing to do anything themselves to improve their chances if they did get it ?!
I have no issue with the government taking certain steps to minimise transmission. I’ve said before that looking at changes in term times, short periods of online learning (BSB mentioned extending school days to allow longer breaks/circuit breaks) for secondary schools and unis would be sensible. However, if a majority of people are not even willing to take responsibility over their own health/fitness then how can we justify doing a lot the other stuff that’s having a direct impact on people’s livelihoods, health (people not having docs appointments/reduced screenings etc), mental health and wellbeing
Saturday rant over ! Enjoy your weekend all (and fingers crossed at least a point at Wednesday)
That'll open a can of worms. Has it ever recovered from the "I'm all right Jack" culture that Thatcherism encouraged? Is it about personal responsibility or having a duty of care / responsibility for others?but when did we become of country of people not wanted to take personal responsibility ?!
I agree there is almost no doubt that case numbers will increase but when did we become of country of people not wanting to take personal responsibility ?!
We all know the risks and people are rightly making their own choices depending on their own personal circumstances. I’m choosing not to see my higher risk mum and step dad but why should it be illegal for others to make a different choice, especially if they are alone, may not have many Christmas’ left etc etc ?!
I’d also like to see the latest stats about people’s exercise/attempts to improve own health/fitness etc which we all know improves people’s chances of survival and helps minimise the impact of Covid for most people. From the stats after the first wave in which all age groups other than over 65s saw their exercise levels decrease, it appears the country (and I’m guessing a lot of the western world) want everything closed down but then not even willing to do anything themselves to improve their chances if they did get it ?!
I have no issue with the government taking certain steps to minimise transmission. I’ve said before that looking at changes in term times, short periods of online learning (BSB mentioned extending school days to allow longer breaks/circuit breaks) for secondary schools and unis would be sensible. However, if a majority of people are not even willing to take responsibility for their own health/fitness then how can we justify doing a lot the other stuff that’s having a direct impact on people’s livelihoods, health (people not having docs appointments/reduced screenings etc), mental health and wellbeing
Saturday rant over ! Enjoy your weekend all (and fingers crossed at least a point at Wednesday)
If you're alone, you'd be bubbled with somebody anyway. As I said, I'd have rather stricter restrictions, but turning a blind eye if and when people broke them, rather than effectively encouraging and condoning it. We had certain outcries against particular groups earlier in this, when they were expected to forego their festivities. It's inevitable some will choose to break whatever regulations are in place, but we're back in the world of muddied messaging when government allows it, but also warns against it - a bit like the don't go to the pub, but they can stay open, that was at the start of this. I do appreciate having made a commitment, to go back on it might decrease trust in future directives, so I am reasonably sympathetic, but it's in danger of fiddling again.. and that usually makes it worse than it need have been, down the line.We all know the risks and people are rightly making their own choices depending on their own personal circumstances. I’m choosing not to see my higher risk mum and step dad but why should it be illegal for others to make a different choice, especially if they are alone, may not have many Christmas’ left etc etc ?!
Is the counter point of view that every new case of COVID is because somewhere someone has either made a mistake or just ignored the guidelines/recommendations etc ?
That'll open a can of worms. Has it ever recovered from the "I'm all right Jack" culture that Thatcherism encouraged? Is it about personal responsibility or having a duty of care / responsibility for others?
You can just as easily speak to the cost that smoking, excess drinking and obesity have been putting on the NHS and other services for years. Can't deny them access to healthcare because they have ignored years of advice/warnings about the consequences of what they are doing to their health.
Is the counter point of view that every new case of COVID is because somewhere someone has either made a mistake or just ignored the guidelines/recommendations etc ?
Also there is a culture of looking for loopholes for the sake of it.
GreatNew Covid strain 50% more infectious.
Boris Conference at 4pm.
Christmas is being cancelled ladies and gents. The right call i feel
New Covid strain 50% more infectious.
New Covid strain 50% more infectious.
That’s how they tend to work.
Yeah, and hopefully less deadly as a result. Still shit news though.
Bit of good news today, they reckon the AZ/Oxford vaccine should be approved this year.
Fingers crossed !
Absolutely, I would take more infectious and less dangerous if one had to choose.
Are there early thoughts on the implications of the new strain on the vaccines being rolled out?
But two points are important. First, vaccines produce a range of antibodies that attack the virus from different angles, so it is hard for it to evade all of them at once. Second, major mutations would probably affect the virus’s ability to infect human cells. Geneticists are already monitoring the virus for mutant forms that achieve what they call “vaccine escape”. Research is now under way at Porton Down and other labs to check whether the new strain could pose problems. If the virus does mutate into a resistant form, vaccines can be tweaked to make them effective again.
New Covid strain 50% more infectious.
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