Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (215 Viewers)

[hill83]

Is that the one that took over London and other places in Tier 2?

Not getting into that.

 

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[Skybluefaz]

Expecting a tier 4 to be announced for London and a tightening for Christmas.

 

[Grendel]

Expecting a tier 4 to be announced for London and a tightening for Christmas.

More likely a six week shutdown I’d guess. What fun

 

[xcraigx]

Yeah, and hopefully less deadly as a result. Still shit news though.

It's a bit of a concern that the death count hasn't come down of late. There tends to be a two or three week lag between cases being announced and deaths occuring so right now we should be seeing lower deaths because of the effect of the recent lockdown and then higher deaths early in the new year due to the case numbers now. Not sure what's causing this, hopefully it doesn't mean this new strain is quicker at killing those susceptible.

 

[Skybluefaz]

More likely a six week shutdown I’d guess. What fun

Thats from Kuennsberg so probably pillow talk, the tier 4 and tightening I mean. I agree there will be an addtitional lockdown at some point.

 

[Nick]

Expecting a tier 4 to be announced for London and a tightening for Christmas.

I dont get why they thought it was a good idea to put London in Tier 2 in the first place then wonder why rates go up?

Thick fucks. Almost as if it was done on purpose it's that inept.

 

[clint van damme]

Cockneys melting down on social media.

 

[Nick]

Cockneys melting down on social media.

Couple of weeks ago they were all going to the football and mocking everywhere else.

 

[clint van damme]

Couple of weeks ago they were all going to the football and mocking everywhere else.

I bet Palace supporters wished it had came in to affect this morning

 

[David O'Day]

Cockneys in tier 4, fuck you Millwall

 

[hill83]

Let’s not make it a battle there’s enough going on. I’m sure many of us have family in London.

 

[David O'Day]

Mixed messaging on Xmas bubbles though. some saying it's going to be only 2 households and some saying it will be only allowed on xmas day.

Not sure how you can bring in the only xmas rue this close to the day.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Missus is now panicking like mad and wanting to postpone July’s wedding. Can’t catch a break here

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Missus is now panicking like mad and wanting to postpone July’s wedding. Can’t catch a break here

Do it with next-to-no people, then do a blessing the year after. You know it makes sense.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Do it with next-to-no people, then do a blessing the year after. You know it makes sense.

Sounds shite

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Sounds shite

What's important? Getting married to somebody you love, or the big day - that's what you have to ask.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What's important? Getting married to somebody you love, or the big day - that's what you have to ask.

It’s the financial side that worries me

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It’s the financial side that worries me

You'll save money if you don't do it on the same scale. Might lose a deposit here and there (although they should be giving you them back!) but... costs will be low!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You'll save money if you don't do it on the same scale. Might lose a deposit here and there (although they should be giving you them back!) but... costs will be low!

Sorry NW just sick of even things in the further future getting ruined

 

[chiefdave]

I agree there is almost no doubt that case numbers will increase but when did we become of country of people not wanting to take personal responsibility ?!

We all know the risks and people are rightly making their own choices depending on their own personal circumstances. I’m choosing not to see my higher risk mum and step dad but why should it be illegal for others to make a different choice, especially if they are alone, may not have many Christmas’ left etc etc ?!

Totally get where you're coming from but the problem is it won't necessarily be those who have made the choice to take a risk that then suffer the consequences.

Frankly we've all seen how people have been behaving so far, there's nothing to indicate that leaving people to use their own sense is a viable way forward. People seem to view the guidelines as something to test to the absolute limit.

I think you can take personal responsibility and also have a duty of care to others. For example if people do mix households over Christmas then to they could/should more strictly self isolate themselves for a short period after

That would be brilliant if it worked like that but can you honestly see the people who decide to mix households isolating themselves for a couple of weeks afterwards?

 

[chiefdave]

I don’t see what relaxation of the rules has taken place. Everywhere around me is shut except for takeaway fast food, family can’t or are too scared to see me and I’ve spent the last 3-4 months teaching in a box to people who are allowed to be all over each other because someone said they’re in a bubble.

The relaxation at Christmas is around travel and household mixing. At the moment in tier 3 we're not supposed to travel outside the area, except in limited circumstance such as travel to work. We also can't mix households, or support bubbles, at all indoors and only in limited locations outdoors.

At Christmas you can mix three households to form a 'Christmas bubble' and you can travel to be part of that bubble. I suspect most people that form a bubble will spend an extended amount of time indoors with that bubble which is of course the highest risk.

Mixed messaging on Xmas bubbles though. some saying it's going to be only 2 households and some saying it will be only allowed on xmas day.

Not sure how you can bring in the only xmas rue this close to the day.

Yet again a consequence of poorly thought out public messaging. As has been pointed out before its far easy to tell people you're loosening existing restrictions than it is to try and put the genie back in the bottle. If Johnson now says, less than a week before Christmas, he's changing the rules on household mixing will people do what they are told?

 

[Nick]

Whats the point in abiding by the rules when they open the floodgates in London? Get in for the football, get in for the boxing.

Oh, rates are rising in London.

People will do what they want when the pricks making things up as they go along don't seem to know what's going on.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The relaxation at Christmas is around travel and household mixing. At the moment in tier 3 we're not supposed to travel outside the area, except in limited circumstance such as travel to work. We also can't mix households, or support bubbles, at all indoors and only in limited locations outdoors.

At Christmas you can mix three households to form a 'Christmas bubble' and you can travel to be part of that bubble. I suspect most people that form a bubble will spend an extended amount of time indoors with that bubble which is of course the highest risk.

Yet again a consequence of poorly thought out public messaging. As has been pointed out before its far easy to tell people you're loosening existing restrictions than it is to try and put the genie back in the bottle. If Johnson now says, less than a week before Christmas, he's changing the rules on household mixing will people do what they are told?

Right but these aren’t enforced in practice so saying people can or can’t do it makes little difference to my circumstances.

 

[covmark]

Whats the point in abiding by the rules when they open the floodgates in London? Get in for the football, get in for the boxing.

Oh, rates are rising in London.

People will do what they want when the pricks making things up as they go along don't seem to know what's going on.

Come off it mate. 2000 people knocking round in a 50000 seater stadium ain't gonna cause a super spread. It'll be loads of other shit. People crammed on tubes and other public transport for example.

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[Nick]

Come off it mate. 2000 people knocking round in a 50000 seater stadium ain't gonna cause a super spread. It'll be loads of other shit. People crammed on tubes and other public transport for example.

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Of course it isn't just that, it's the relaxed rules in general. Look at all the people out shopping etc.

I'd bet most of those 2,000 used the tube after as well.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Of course it isn't just that, it's the relaxed rules in general. Look at all the people out shopping etc.

I'd bet most of those 2,000 used the tube after as well.

I would love to know why thousands could watch football but 50 couldn’t go to a wedding or funeral.

 

[David O'Day]

The relaxation at Christmas is around travel and household mixing. At the moment in tier 3 we're not supposed to travel outside the area, except in limited circumstance such as travel to work. We also can't mix households, or support bubbles, at all indoors and only in limited locations outdoors.

At Christmas you can mix three households to form a 'Christmas bubble' and you can travel to be part of that bubble. I suspect most people that form a bubble will spend an extended amount of time indoors with that bubble which is of course the highest risk.

Yet again a consequence of poorly thought out public messaging. As has been pointed out before its far easy to tell people you're loosening existing restrictions than it is to try and put the genie back in the bottle. If Johnson now says, less than a week before Christmas, he's changing the rules on household mixing will people do what they are told?

lots of people won't listen to any changes now so what does the government do? it's 6 days before xmas so loads of people while already be travelling or will have made plans to travel.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Sorry NW just sick of even things in the further future getting ruined

Well I've been through that.

And no, it wasn't shite.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well I've been through that.

And no, it wasn't shite.

The big day matters quite a lot to the missus, we cancel it and it’ll hit her a fair bit more.

 

[stupot07]

Rules are changing for Christmas, 1 day only.

New strain of covid is 70% more transmitable

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[Nick]

What's the point in lockdown with a day off

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Fucks sake

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Shows how ridiculous the tier 2 ruling was as they've practically gone from that to Tier 4.

 

[Darth Robins]

If you're not supposed to travel into a Tier 4 area what the hell is Santa going to do?

 

[David O'Day]

This new variant has been around since September

why not just lock done the effected areas?