Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (10 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

Yeah if we did it before, it's unnerving if we don't do it now.

I just want some scrap to throw my rational brain. Some element of logic and reason for the decisions. It feels like it’s pulled out a fucking hat. Even with him apparently sat there saying it’s all great I’m still half expecting a late night press conference tonight saying everything is shut, or one a week in.

I’ve never felt this from a government before. Just a total sense of no plan and making it up as they go along during a National crisis.

 

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[skybluetony176]

Are the government really leaving this decision to the councils and schools so they can blame education for messing up kids chances?

Make a decision Gavin ffs

Unfortunately Pete this government need the obvious to smack them in the face several times before it becomes obvious to them and they can make the right decision so expect either a last minute U turn or for the kids to go back only to go off a week later and then having to spend more time off school than they would have had they just not sent them back in the first place.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I just want some scrap to throw my rational brain. Some element of logic and reason for the decisions. It feels like it’s pulled out a fucking hat. Even with him apparently sat there saying it’s all great I’m still half expecting a late night press conference tonight saying everything is shut, or one a week in.

I’ve never felt this from a government before. Just a total sense of no plan and making it up as they go along during a National crisis.

Yup, that's it. I could actually get behind the herd immunity plan as it did seem like a plan! It was later shown to be flawed so they changed direction - fine, such is the way of a pandemic.

Since then... fucking useless. Over nine months to sort out a strategy, and we have less of one than when we began!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Doubled down primary school parents should send them to school apart from London and south east

Schools are safe
Risks tiny
To pupils and staff! Don’t see how he can say that

Saga can’t open schools and on top of new variant

Johnson says evidence not clear - he’s waiting to see if it’s going to work. He’s such an idiot

Driven by public health. He doesn’t accept schools need to be shut to get on top of it

Talking long term damages mental health deprivation etc other consequences

What’s he going to do to Brighton? No legal action this time

No doubt in his mind schools are safe

He says we’ve kept them open!!!! He hasn’t - teachers have

He’s still in hopeful optimism mode - tit he doesn’t learn

Local authority’s are going there own way. He doesn’t accept this and for public health reasons they should keep primary schools open

Again we are ramping up testing - who is we?? He’s not testing anything

Few weeks and months before vaccine is in place.

Will they open on. 18th? Can’t guarantee it.

Exam question now. Need to be realistic about spread of new variant. Didnt really answer about exams. Maybe tougher in different areas of the country using the same set of tools

Tier 5? Obviously a range of tougher measures but he’s not going to speculate about them

57000 cases today so when ?? Pm very difficult months. Bumbling now and didn’t answer exams

Tougher restrictions not yet!! Knob head

Vaccines thought 30m then down to 4m

He didn’t know the numbers ready to go but it wasn’t anywhere near that much.

Need to be 2m a week - praised the Astra Zeneca vaccine but didn’t give assurances of getting to this point. Everyone working flat out. Promised tens of millions in the next few months

Talk about how we got here

July -,report in the winter. Have you read it? Danger of mutation - warned in advance - stop community transmission and we didn’t

Be clear the government has done everything it could but new variant has messed everything up.

He’s now talking about lockdown all year. Marr being pretty good on this show.

He’s pretty much saying the deaths were a price to pay for keeping the economy going. He’s probably right

Blaming the mutation but marr had already pointed out the report said this was sensible to consider

He really doesn’t want to act he’s a hopeless optimist. He’s challenged him now saying he’s waiting too long each time

He’s saying yes really they are reticent to lockdown

 

[Skybluefaz]

Send your kids back. He also says they'll close schools as further action. What's the point? Get ahead of the curve for once.

 

[stupot07]

Doubled down primary school parents should send them to school apart from London and south east

Schools are safe
Risks tiny
To pupils and staff! Don’t see how he can say that

Saga can’t open schools and on top of new variant

Johnson says evidence not clear - he’s waiting to see if it’s going to work. He’s such an idiot

Driven by public health. He doesn’t accept schools need to be shut to get on top of it

Talking long term damages mental health deprivation etc other consequences

What’s he going to do to Brighton? No legal action this time

No doubt in his mind schools are safe

He says we’ve kept them open!!!! He hasn’t - teachers have

He’s still in hopeful optimism mode - tit he doesn’t learn

Local authority’s are going there own way. He doesn’t accept this and for public health reasons they should keep primary schools open

Again we are ramping up testing - who is we?? He’s not testing anything

Few weeks and months before vaccine is in place.

Will they open on. 18th? Can’t guarantee it.

Exam question now. Need to be realistic about spread of new variant. Didnt really answer about exams. Maybe tougher in different areas of the country using the same set of tools

Tier 5? Obviously a range of tougher measures but he’s not going to speculate about them

57000 cases today so when ?? Pm very difficult months. Bumbling now and didn’t answer exams

Tougher restrictions not yet!! Knob head

Vaccines thought 30m then down to 4m

He didn’t know the numbers ready to go but it wasn’t anywhere near that much.

Need to be 2m a week - praised the Astra Zeneca vaccine but didn’t give assurances of getting to this point. Everyone working flat out. Promised tens of millions in the next few months

Talk about how we got here

July -,report in the winter. Have you read it? Danger of mutation - warned in advance - stop community transmission and we didn’t

Be clear the government has done everything it could but new variant has messed everything up.

He’s now talking about lockdown all year. Marr being pretty good on this show.

He’s pretty much saying the deaths were a price to pay for keeping the economy going. He’s probably right

Blaming the mutation but marr had already pointed out the report said this was sensible to consider

He really doesn’t want to act he’s a hopeless optimist. He’s challenged him now saying he’s waiting too long each time

He’s saying yes really they are reticent to lockdown

Sage has said they don't think we can hold the new variant back without closing schools. Boris waffles on about 'other public health experts'.

Behind the curve with every single decision.

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[Sky Blue Pete]

He is a hopeless optimist that’s his problem!! It is a good character trait but you need a hard headed decision maker at this time in the nation

He genuinely thinks they’ve done a good job

 

[stupot07]

He told marr to "break out if his characteristic gloom"

c**t

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[Nick]

Do I have a choice to stay at home yet if I want to get paid?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Schools are safe apart from those in London and the South East which are very different to those in the rest of the country

 

[Ian1779]

Schools are safe apart from those in London and the South East which are very different to those in the rest of the country

All set up nicely for a U turn about 6pm tonight.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Schools are safe apart from those in London and the South East which are very different to those in the rest of the country

Not sure why Marr didn't throw that back at him when Johnson is saying schools are safe

 

[fernandopartridge]

Not sure why Marr didn't throw that back at him when Johnson is saying schools are safe

Because Marr is a pathetic tory sympathising wanker

 

[hill83]

Do I have a choice to stay at home yet if I want to get paid?

Just think positive m8

 

[SBAndy]

Local authority’s are going there own way. He doesn’t accept this and for public health reasons they should keep primary schools open

How can it ever be argued that schools should remain open for public health reasons? Groundbreaking stupidity from the clown-in-chief.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If schools are safe then why am I teaching in a box, the children and staff wearing masks everywhere and not allowed to walk freely around the site in different buildings? If they are safe why does one case in a year group have the ability to infect 150-200 households?

The truth is he is a libertarian who wants to let it rip and for everyone to do their own thing. Despite having been to hospital himself with this he isn’t getting the message. Now it looks like he is fucking up the rollout of a vaccine. Scientists have busted their arses to achieve one and all he had to do was calmly order it and make sure people got it. Looks like he can’t even do that.

How on Earth can anyone still support these people?

 

[Nick]

Just think positive m8

Maybe I can positively think my bills will get paid by a kind fairy so I can choose to stay at home and keep my daughter off school.

Might win the lottery.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Maybe I can positively think my bills will get paid by a kind fairy so I can choose to stay at home and keep my daughter off school.

Might win the lottery.

There should be a hard lockdown with a short term UBI

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not for what I do.

What do you do?

 

[hill83]

What do you do?

Deleted it but I'll answer anyway. 24/7 IT and Infrastructure Support for a Pharmaceutical company.

I'm working right now. Never been busier.

 

[Grendel]

There should be a hard lockdown with a short term UBI

Which would bankrupt manufacturing overnight

 

[hill83]

My ex works in Logistics for *insert company name here*, which in turn supplies trucks to companies that deliver food and pharmaceutical goods.
Can't stop that either.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Which would bankrupt manufacturing overnight

What is your suggestion?

 

[hill83]

My Auntie is a nurse at walsgrave. My uncle works for age uk and shops for vulnerable people not in care homes.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Deleted it but I'll answer anyway. 24/7 IT and Infrastructure Support for a Pharmaceutical company.

I'm working right now. Never been busier.

Is that a WFH arrangement at the moment?

 

[hill83]

My mate works for severn trent dealing in the upkeep of sewage treatment plants. Can't stop that.

 

[hill83]

Is that a WFH arrangement at the moment?

50/50. There's are physical servers we upkeep and monitor. 100's of them.

 

[Grendel]

What is your suggestion?

People carry on working as they are doing in every other part of the globe. You have COVID guidelines which does mean adapting work behaviours (working in a box as you call it) constant temperature checks and restrictions on visitors but that’s all you can do

I have to go to London Birmingham and possibly Hartlepool next week

 

[Nick]

There should be a hard lockdown with a short term UBI

Then I might not have a job to go back to and my boss may not have a business.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

People carry on working as they are doing in every other part of the globe. You have COVID guidelines which does mean adapting work behaviours (working in a box as you call it) constant temperature checks and restrictions on visitors but that’s all you can do

I have to go to London Birmingham and possibly Hartlepool next week

You do understand that in schools the children in year group bubbles are allowed to mix like there is no virus going around? Our case numbers and deaths are going through the roof.

 

[Grendel]

Then I might not have a job to go back to and my boss may not have a business.

Exactly the private sectors are very different to public ones.

 

[hill83]

You do understand that in schools the children in year group bubbles are allowed to mix like there is no virus going around? Our case numbers and deaths are going through the roof.

Yes and it's a shit situation. I'd prefer schools to be closed and some free time off to look after my son.

I've had an absolute shit year of it work wise. I've had 1 day off since 14th December. A £5k paycut, and I still have to go into an office.
Do I moan, well yes I am right now. Have you stopped moaning for the last 9 months? Have you bollocks.

Starting to piss me off.

 

[Grendel]

You do understand that in schools the children in year group bubbles are allowed to mix like there is no virus going around? Our case numbers and deaths are going through the roof.

In one place at work I deal with 75% of the workforce of around 12 have it or have had it - they still had to have people in or the business would collapse - big companies must be rife with it but people carry on as many have not the same options

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Then I might not have a job to go back to and my boss may not have a business.

What do you suggest we do with 1k daily deaths and 50-100k daily cases? Really, because I don’t know.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

In one place at work I deal with 75% of the workforce of around 12 have it or have had it - they still had to have people in or the business would collapse - big companies must be rife with it but people carry on as many have not the same options

So it is down to the government to provide more relief for those made to shut through no fault of their own