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As I posted elsewhere surfaces do not play much role in transmission.
What’s the science on people touching produce. Someone the other day picked up 5 items on one shelf and put them back
No it’s arseholesAs I posted elsewhere surfaces do not play much role in transmission.
If my industry closes down nobody will be able to panic buy bog rollsMy industry closes down and nobody is getting a vaccine for a start.
For 15 minutes? Without masks? In crowds so big they block the aisles? And the staff or other customers don’t say anything? Not sure if your experience is that typical, I’m out in the real world plenty and I’ve never seen that.
Not sure what you mean with Coombe Abbey. Spending the day wandering around outside would be fine so long as you kept your distance and wore a mask. Much safer than large numbers of people inside a poorly ventilated restaurant, church hall or gym.
If my industry closes down nobody will be able to panic buy bog rolls
Nah scared not annoyed for mum. Annoyed at my sister for being so careless with her lifeNip down to the Ricoh Tesco today and have a look, guaranteed theres people who havent seen each other who bump into each other have a chat and usually block the aisles.
Then there's people with masks below their noses or none at all (again usually but not always old people).
Funnily enough church hall gatherings are still allowed, Pete is getting annoyed at his mum because she wants to see her family and not be alone. You can still gather in a church hall for a "new parent" meeting with 15 people there and it's fine.
Again, you obviously haven't been in a lot of gyms. The day before we went to Tier 4 the one I was in was completely ventilated, the equipment spaced out and plenty of wipes, spray with everybody using them like it's second nature before and after they used a machine or weights.
We've had plenty on here, however, who were working from home, and now aren't.Not really as most industries can’t close down
It feels a lot like it’s about equity, like some people are ‘required’ to be seen to be in work because some that are essential are in - so it’s perceived as fair. But if you make those that can stay and work at home - then there are less people in buildings, you can spread out and reduce the people that you can transmit to and from.We've had plenty on here, however, who were working from home, and now aren't.
Not all industries can close down, but there's more that can be done, that isn't being done atm.
Nip down to the Ricoh Tesco today and have a look, guaranteed theres people who havent seen each other who bump into each other have a chat and usually block the aisles.
Then there's people with masks below their noses or none at all (again usually but not always old people).
Funnily enough church hall gatherings are still allowed, Pete is getting annoyed at his mum because she wants to see her family and not be alone. You can still gather in a church hall for a "new parent" meeting with 15 people there and it's fine.
Again, you obviously haven't been in a lot of gyms. The day before we went to Tier 4 the one I was in was completely ventilated, the equipment spaced out and plenty of wipes, spray with everybody using them like it's second nature before and after they used a machine or weights.
There was also the change of message over the summer, where Johnson encouraged people to work from the office if at all possible. The reality didn't last long, but it certainly changed mindset in some businesses, which hasn't reverted.It feels a lot like it’s about equity, like some people are ‘required’ to be seen to be in work because some that are essential are in - so it’s perceived as fair. But if you make those that can stay and work at home - then there are less people in buildings, you can spread out and reduce the people that you can transmit to and from.
We've had plenty on here, however, who were working from home, and now aren't.
Not all industries can close down, but there's more that can be done, that isn't being done atm.
Beginning of this, Mrs Wisdom's employer was excellent - they did risk assessments and, as she's officially clinically vulnerable, they sent her home early, before government imposed a lockdown, in fact.I can’t get over I’m being asked to go back in at the height of the pandemic. You’d never know we were essentially in lockdown right now. There’s been no attempt to enforce the rules at all. It’s pathetic and like everything this cowardly lazy government does it’s been eaten up by people who want to blame people buying food instead.
There was also the change of message over the summer, where Johnson encouraged people to work from the office if at all possible. The reality didn't last long, but it certainly changed mindset in some businesses, which hasn't reverted.
It hardly made any impact in my experience.
Had a pretty big impact in mine.
Had a pretty big impact in mine.
I hardly know anyone who was told to go back in the summer and I believe we have more at home still then pretty much all of Europe don’t we?
At my workplace around 10% are in the office working, I think it's the same across most places, apart from factories and warehouses, of course.I hardly know anyone who was told to go back in the summer and I believe we have more at home still then pretty much all of Europe don’t we?
At my workplace around 10% are in the office working, I think it's the same across most places, apart from factories and warehouses, of course.
Not sure how it's relevant to now as it's out of date?I was referring to this which suggests 75% in Italy were in work by august
UK office workers slower to return to their desk after Covid
Survey finds a third of Britain’s white-collar workers back compared with 83% in Francewww.google.co.uk
Not sure how it's relevant to now as it's out of date?
The situation with the pandemic was much better here over the summer months, more so than the UK, which meant more people were in offices, but that changed again in October when the cases picked up again.
This is on top of the NEU advising it’s primary members to refuse to go to workplaces because of H&S.
Beginning of this, Mrs Wisdom's employer was excellent - they did risk assessments and, as she's officially clinically vulnerable, they sent her home early, before government imposed a lockdown, in fact.
Since the summer change in message however, she's seen her person to person contact time *increase* to a greater level than it was pre-pandemic. As far as I can see that's doubly crazy - I can't see why she *needs* to be in just atm as it is (there are things they can justify but, to be perfectly honest, they can wait a month or four!), but to *increase* contact time seems the path to utter madness!
Yes, my wife seems to think that is the union the TA's are in at her school.This is on top of the NEU advising it’s primary members to refuse to go to workplaces because of H&S.
I don’t know the member breakdown for primaries, but in secondary they are the biggest union for members. I believe as well that Unite or GMB have joined the same message, which often is the Union for other school staff that aren’t teachers.Yes, my wife seems to think that is the union the TA's are in at her school.
I don’t know the member breakdown for primaries, but in secondary they are the biggest union for members. I believe as well that Unite or GMB have joined the same message, which often is the Union for other school staff that aren’t teachers.
Can I have your advice? Thinking I should Un volunteer. Would much prefer schools to be closed for a couple of weeksI'm tired of being told 'thank you for putting on a normal education for our kids', there's zero normal about any of it.
Can I have your advice? Thinking I should Un volunteer. Would much prefer schools to be closed for a couple of weeks
Put it this way Pete every person who volunteers makes it more likely they will open up. No matter how many times my school says 'it's OK' I don't believe them.
I'm tired of being told 'thank you for putting on a normal education for our kids', there's zero normal about any of it.
I'm surprised you even get thank you's, they are rare for me. I've worked in retail, distribution and security but I've not seen anything like the education sector, it's messed up. Some of the things my current school do are very wrong. The image that's given off is very different to the reality. As one headteacher was rumoured to have said "kids are just numbers".
That’s where I am it’s beyond crazy to open schools for the next couple of weeksPut it this way Pete every person who volunteers makes it more likely they will open up. No matter how many times my school says 'it's OK' I don't believe them.
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