Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (5 Viewers)

[Skybluefaz]

Britain's Pfizer vaccine supply threatened by new rules expected to be approved by European Commission

Tensions between the UK and EU over vaccine supplies have reached a crisis point

www.telegraph.co.uk

Oh dear.

Article behind a pay wall. As long as they are trying to see what's going on in there to slow them down rather than trying to raid our supply I couldn't give a fuck.

 

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[clint van damme]

EU to unveil export ban that could stop millions of Pfizer jabs from reaching UK

BRUSSELS is set to publicly outline its vaccine export ban plan tomorrow – which could see millions of Pfizer doses blocked from entering Britain within days. Under the move to be finalised o…

www.thesun.co.uk

The first two lines of the telegraph article say raid the Sun is unbelievably less inflammatory in saying spot check.

Either way, sounds like there's some shithousery afoot.

 

[AOM]

Coronavirus: Tory MP Sir Desmond Swayne refuses to apologise over Covid claims

Sir Desmond Swayne has been accused of spreading "dangerous misinformation" about coronavirus.

www.bbc.co.uk

"risks to the NHS were "manageable" "

Who's this tit?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The first two lines of the telegraph article say raid the Sun is unbelievably less inflammatory in saying spot check.

Either way, sounds like there's some shithousery afoot.

I was once working on a site for a similar sized pharma company when it was ‘raided’ by the American FDA, but emerged that’s because they had a tip off about something that was going on. This looks like it’s desperately trying to find something that may or may not be there, more in hope than expectation.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

I see Herr Liese hasn't finished throwing his toys out of his pram yet..... embarrassing.

 

[shmmeee]

Labour keep losing. Perhaps people should listen to the ones not voting for them and something might get learnt.

It's pretty basic. You want to win voters over then their concerns need to be listened to.

“concerns”

Right so this is about immigration.

Tell me again how the Tories have managed to reduce immigration or even tried?

Let’s not pretend people play retail politics, it’s simply not true.

(also, immigration concerns post Brexit are at an all time low, so there goes that logic too)

Honestly, it’s OK you want to be dommed by a man in a posh accent, just try and keep it between you and porn hub and not the ballot box.

(I’m only playing, but I genuinely don’t believe that’s the issue. It’s general credibility and Brits thinking posh = competent. In a serious country the likes of Johnson and Rees-Mogg would be comedy characters not elected representatives)

 

[David O'Day]

To be fair you’ve avoided dropping c bombs all over the place which is your usual MO

and it's a classic

 

[clint van damme]

I was once working on a site for a similar sized pharma company when it was ‘raided’ by the American FDA, but emerged that’s because they had a tip off about something that was going on. This looks like it’s desperately trying to find something that may or may not be there, more in hope than expectation.

Thing is if we have the excess doses it's claimed we should be trying to help out countries that are struggling with supply. This should be a humanitarian thing.

But they shouldn't be trying strong arm bullying tactics to get them. Bang out of order.

 

[Brylowes]

What is a lazy opinion is believing that anyone other than the tories should get into power by default because the former are shit.

The competition has been consistently rejected by the general public. If you got relegated every season would you point the blame elsewhere or accept you were doing something wrong?

I genuinely believe a lot of people want to have someone else to vote for, but they cannot find anyone that represents them. I'm certainly in that camp. The fact that the tories keep winning suggests to me that the alternative is even worse. Trust me, I wish it wasn't the case, but it is. Apart from Blair, how many elections have Labour won in the last 100 years? They keep alienating potential voters.

I have very little good to say about the tories or Johnson (vaccine otherwise), just for the record.

The opposition are and alwaus will be, exactly what the MSM want you to think they are.

 

[Brylowes]

Yes, but it goes a lot further than that, and you know it.

Yes it does !!!
It gets much much worse.

 

[Grendel]

The first two lines of the telegraph article say raid the Sun is unbelievably less inflammatory in saying spot check.

Either way, sounds like there's some shithousery afoot.

So if you are 64 and 360 days you get it in Germany but if the appointment is delayed a week you don’t. Makes sense

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Thing is if we have the excess doses it's claimed we should be trying to help out countries that are struggling with supply. This should be a humanitarian thing.

But they shouldn't be trying strong arm bullying tactics to get them. Bang out of order.

I assume we'll only have excess doses further down the road once more are approved and delivered.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Thing is if we have the excess doses it's claimed we should be trying to help out countries that are struggling with supply. This should be a humanitarian thing.

But they shouldn't be trying strong arm bullying tactics to get them. Bang out of order.

To be fair I don’t think we have at the moment. If/when we do I think we have already indicated we would look to help other countries.

Nothing to do with Brexit, but based on the EUs recent behaviour I’d say fuck ‘em and send any spares to Africa/developing nations (would probably do that anyway to be honest as they will be in far greater need due to poorer health care etc)

 

[clint van damme]

So if you are 64 and 360 days you get it in Germany but if the appointment is delayed a week you don’t. Makes sense

I can't work out why they're kicking off over a vaccine they haven't approved yet.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So if you are 64 and 360 days you get it in Germany but if the appointment is delayed a week you don’t. Makes sense

Arbitrary cut-offs all over the place, same as over 50s getting priority ahead of over 49.5s

 

[CCFCSteve]

I can't work out why they're kicking off over a vaccine they haven't approved yet.

I know, it’s bizarre. It’s a massive smokescreen due to the poor purchasing and roll out. Surely the public can put two and two together and see that’s the current problems have nothing to do with AZ

Ps Maybe there’s something else at play as well. Just looking at the vaccine numbers per country (appreciate that there are a load of variables that impact this), I’m wondering if some countries in the EU have had more than their fair share if the AZ supply doesn’t come through as originally planned. Maybe I’m just being overly sceptical though

 

[wingy]

I can't work out why they're kicking off over a vaccine they haven't approved yet.

Domestic politics.

The Indians were talking about something similar a couple of months ago

Not sure how it played out.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Domestic politics.

The Indians were talking about something similar a couple of months ago

Not sure how it played out.

Think they got in a fight with the cowboys, some guy called Custer got killed

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

(I’m only playing, but I genuinely don’t believe that’s the issue. It’s general credibility and Brits thinking posh = competent. In a serious country the likes of Johnson and Rees-Mogg would be comedy characters not elected representatives)

On the I agree but I don't think any of us are immune.

On a plane when the captain speaks that plummy accent is, for absolutely no sensible reason, instantly reassuring.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Coronavirus: Tory MP Sir Desmond Swayne refuses to apologise over Covid claims

Sir Desmond Swayne has been accused of spreading "dangerous misinformation" about coronavirus.

www.bbc.co.uk

"risks to the NHS were "manageable" "

Who's this tit?

He's a c***

And I won't apologise for that as I hold a 'legitimate point of view'

 

[David O'Day]

I can't work out why they're kicking off over a vaccine they haven't approved yet.

Because it will be approved soon

 

[Brylowes]

Surely the public can put two and two together and see that’s the current problem

Surely the public can put two and two together and see what the problem is

 

[CCFCSteve]

Surely the public can put two and two together and see what the problem is

Did I say something funny Brylowes ? Probably a first I know but was accidental if so !

ps European public, not ours

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

South African COVID variant shown to reduce length of protection against Pfizer vaccine in preliminary tests, confirmed to now be in the US

South African 'super-covid' is in the US | Daily Mail Online

 

[Brylowes]

Did I say something funny Brylowes ? Probably a first I know but was accidental if so !

ps European public, not ours

The Torys still being 5% points ahead in Westminster voting intention along with Brexit, dispels any lingering myth that a huge proporation of the Great British public are able to put 2 and 2 together Well not without getting 5 anyway.

 

[Brylowes]

South African COVID variant shown to reduce length of protection against Pfizer vaccine in preliminary tests, confirmed to now be in the US

South African 'super-covid' is in the US | Daily Mail Online

Well there will be absolutely no chance of containment there.

 

[CCFCSteve]

The Torys still being 5% points ahead in Westminster voting intention along with Brexit, dispels any lingering myth that a huge proporation of the Great British public are able to put 2 and 2 together Well not without getting 5 anyway.

gotcha. I was talking about the European public understanding the current slow vaccine roll out isnt an AZ problem though (as it’s not even approved yet)

 

[Brylowes]

gotcha. I was talking about the European public understanding the current slow vaccine roll out isnt an AZ problem though (as it’s not even approved yet)

I know, I was butchering your post to make my own political point.
I should apologise.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The Torys still being 5% points ahead in Westminster voting intention along with Brexit, dispels any lingering myth that a huge proporation of the Great British public are able to put 2 and 2 together Well not without getting 5 anyway.

They really are immune no matter how shit a job they do eh

 

[fernandopartridge]

Good to see the cases continuing to decline, albeit still very high. Find it odd how many tests are being conducted though, assume they're counting aysmptomatic mass testing as the Pillar 1 / 2 testing volume correlates closely to the general level of community infection.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Grendel lookalike in spat with Piers Morgan

Piers Morgan responds to derisive Jim Davidson video following calls for Boris Johnson’s resignation (msn.com)

 

[chiefdave]

Good to see the cases continuing to decline, albeit still very high. Find it odd how many tests are being conducted though, assume they're counting aysmptomatic mass testing as the Pillar 1 / 2 testing volume correlates closely to the general level of community infection.

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If you click through to the testing page and then onto data it gives you this

Number of confirmed positive, negative or void COVID-19 virus test results. This is a count of test results and may include multiple tests for an individual person. Virus tests test for the presence of SARS-CoV-2 virus and include all pillar 1 and 2 tests and any virus tests undertaken in pillar 4. Virus tests include PCR tests conducted in laboratories and lateral flow device tests that give results in less than an hour, without needing to go to a laboratory.

 

[chiefdave]

Looks like hospital admissions is now starting to drop, behind the drop in new cases as would be expected. Lets hope the death figure starts to drop as well. Of course they're still all very high so a long way to go but at least its going in the right direction.

 

[David O'Day]

Coronavirus: Germany set to limit AstraZeneca jab to under-65s

German vaccine officials say there is not enough data about the jab, which is widely used in the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[shmmeee]

On the I agree but I don't think any of us are immune.

On a plane when the captain speaks that plummy accent is, for absolutely no sensible reason, instantly reassuring.

Class, especially in this country is massive and it’s taboo to talk about it really. The right wants to talk about nationality and the left gender and race, but it’s always class.

My missus can’t get over how it seeps into everything here. Like people caring what school/Uni you went to, or people moving houses to be near a particular school, the whole landed gentry thing.

We really are a backwards country in terms of class. Probably only India is worse for that kind of system I’d guess. Yet we never acknowledge it.