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jimmyhillsfanclub

jimmyhillsfanclub

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I see Herr Liese hasn't finished throwing his toys out of his pram yet..... embarrassing.
 
shmmeee

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Labour keep losing. Perhaps people should listen to the ones not voting for them and something might get learnt.

It's pretty basic. You want to win voters over then their concerns need to be listened to.
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“concerns”

Right so this is about immigration.

Tell me again how the Tories have managed to reduce immigration or even tried?

Let’s not pretend people play retail politics, it’s simply not true.

(also, immigration concerns post Brexit are at an all time low, so there goes that logic too)

Honestly, it’s OK you want to be dommed by a man in a posh accent, just try and keep it between you and porn hub and not the ballot box. ;)

(I’m only playing, but I genuinely don’t believe that’s the issue. It’s general credibility and Brits thinking posh = competent. In a serious country the likes of Johnson and Rees-Mogg would be comedy characters not elected representatives)
 
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clint van damme

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I was once working on a site for a similar sized pharma company when it was ‘raided’ by the American FDA, but emerged that’s because they had a tip off about something that was going on. This looks like it’s desperately trying to find something that may or may not be there, more in hope than expectation.
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Thing is if we have the excess doses it's claimed we should be trying to help out countries that are struggling with supply. This should be a humanitarian thing.

But they shouldn't be trying strong arm bullying tactics to get them. Bang out of order.
 
Brylowes

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What is a lazy opinion is believing that anyone other than the tories should get into power by default because the former are shit.

The competition has been consistently rejected by the general public. If you got relegated every season would you point the blame elsewhere or accept you were doing something wrong?

I genuinely believe a lot of people want to have someone else to vote for, but they cannot find anyone that represents them. I'm certainly in that camp. The fact that the tories keep winning suggests to me that the alternative is even worse. Trust me, I wish it wasn't the case, but it is. Apart from Blair, how many elections have Labour won in the last 100 years? They keep alienating potential voters.

I have very little good to say about the tories or Johnson (vaccine otherwise), just for the record.
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The opposition are and alwaus will be, exactly what the MSM want you to think they are.
 
Grendel

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clint van damme said:
The first two lines of the telegraph article say raid the Sun is unbelievably less inflammatory in saying spot check.

Either way, sounds like there's some shithousery afoot.
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So if you are 64 and 360 days you get it in Germany but if the appointment is delayed a week you don’t. Makes sense
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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clint van damme said:
Thing is if we have the excess doses it's claimed we should be trying to help out countries that are struggling with supply. This should be a humanitarian thing.

But they shouldn't be trying strong arm bullying tactics to get them. Bang out of order.
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I assume we'll only have excess doses further down the road once more are approved and delivered.
 
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CCFCSteve

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clint van damme said:
Thing is if we have the excess doses it's claimed we should be trying to help out countries that are struggling with supply. This should be a humanitarian thing.

But they shouldn't be trying strong arm bullying tactics to get them. Bang out of order.
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To be fair I don’t think we have at the moment. If/when we do I think we have already indicated we would look to help other countries.

Nothing to do with Brexit, but based on the EUs recent behaviour I’d say fuck ‘em and send any spares to Africa/developing nations (would probably do that anyway to be honest as they will be in far greater need due to poorer health care etc)
 
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Grendel said:
So if you are 64 and 360 days you get it in Germany but if the appointment is delayed a week you don’t. Makes sense
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Arbitrary cut-offs all over the place, same as over 50s getting priority ahead of over 49.5s
 
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CCFCSteve

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clint van damme said:
I can't work out why they're kicking off over a vaccine they haven't approved yet.
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I know, it’s bizarre. It’s a massive smokescreen due to the poor purchasing and roll out. Surely the public can put two and two together and see that’s the current problems have nothing to do with AZ

Ps Maybe there’s something else at play as well. Just looking at the vaccine numbers per country (appreciate that there are a load of variables that impact this), I’m wondering if some countries in the EU have had more than their fair share if the AZ supply doesn’t come through as originally planned. Maybe I’m just being overly sceptical though
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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shmmeee said:
(I’m only playing, but I genuinely don’t believe that’s the issue. It’s general credibility and Brits thinking posh = competent. In a serious country the likes of Johnson and Rees-Mogg would be comedy characters not elected representatives)
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On the I agree but I don't think any of us are immune.

On a plane when the captain speaks that plummy accent is, for absolutely no sensible reason, instantly reassuring.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Brylowes

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CCFCSteve said:
Did I say something funny Brylowes ? Probably a first I know but was accidental if so !

ps European public, not ours
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The Torys still being 5% points ahead in Westminster voting intention along with Brexit, dispels any lingering myth that a huge proporation of the Great British public are able to put 2 and 2 together :unsure: Well not without getting 5 anyway.
 
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CCFCSteve

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Brylowes said:
The Torys still being 5% points ahead in Westminster voting intention along with Brexit, dispels any lingering myth that a huge proporation of the Great British public are able to put 2 and 2 together :unsure: Well not without getting 5 anyway.
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gotcha. I was talking about the European public understanding the current slow vaccine roll out isnt an AZ problem though (as it’s not even approved yet)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Brylowes said:
The Torys still being 5% points ahead in Westminster voting intention along with Brexit, dispels any lingering myth that a huge proporation of the Great British public are able to put 2 and 2 together :unsure: Well not without getting 5 anyway.
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They really are immune no matter how shit a job they do eh
 
fernandopartridge

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Good to see the cases continuing to decline, albeit still very high. Find it odd how many tests are being conducted though, assume they're counting aysmptomatic mass testing as the Pillar 1 / 2 testing volume correlates closely to the general level of community infection.

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chiefdave

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fernandopartridge said:
Good to see the cases continuing to decline, albeit still very high. Find it odd how many tests are being conducted though, assume they're counting aysmptomatic mass testing as the Pillar 1 / 2 testing volume correlates closely to the general level of community infection.

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If you click through to the testing page and then onto data it gives you this
Number of confirmed positive, negative or void COVID-19 virus test results. This is a count of test results and may include multiple tests for an individual person. Virus tests test for the presence of SARS-CoV-2 virus and include all pillar 1 and 2 tests and any virus tests undertaken in pillar 4. Virus tests include PCR tests conducted in laboratories and lateral flow device tests that give results in less than an hour, without needing to go to a laboratory.
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chiefdave

chiefdave

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Looks like hospital admissions is now starting to drop, behind the drop in new cases as would be expected. Lets hope the death figure starts to drop as well. Of course they're still all very high so a long way to go but at least its going in the right direction.
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
On the I agree but I don't think any of us are immune.

On a plane when the captain speaks that plummy accent is, for absolutely no sensible reason, instantly reassuring.
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Class, especially in this country is massive and it’s taboo to talk about it really. The right wants to talk about nationality and the left gender and race, but it’s always class.

My missus can’t get over how it seeps into everything here. Like people caring what school/Uni you went to, or people moving houses to be near a particular school, the whole landed gentry thing.

We really are a backwards country in terms of class. Probably only India is worse for that kind of system I’d guess. Yet we never acknowledge it.
 
shmmeee

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When are we thinking well see the impact of the vaccine in the stats? End of Feb maybe? Two weeks after the vulnerable have all had a shot?
 
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wingy

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shmmeee said:
When are we thinking well see the impact of the vaccine in the stats? End of Feb maybe? Two weeks after the vulnerable have all had a shot?
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Going to be difficult to know I think.
Until lockdown is completely over and then we will be approaching the summer and finer weather .
So only a small window to measure I think.
 
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