Debrah meedham talking sense on question time. No point uk and Israel vaccinating everyone and the rest of the world travelling in and bringing mutated virus. That’s what’s so great about the az one. The at cost nature to poorer countries offer. There should be a vaccination summit. The tory on question time was proper annoying last night
Debrah meedham talking sense on question time. No point uk and Israel vaccinating everyone and the rest of the world travelling in and bringing mutated virus. That’s what’s so great about the az one. The at cost nature to poorer countries offer. There should be a vaccination summit. The tory on question time was proper annoying last night
Individual state you mean not company?
Apparently they've privately ordered millions more Pfizer doses?
That was a bad decisionYou might well be right. I remember reading this a while ago, posted the link for reference.
"At a meeting with EU diplomats in July, a Commission official said the EU had declined an offer of 500 million doses from Pfizer and BioNTech because it was too expensive, an internal EU document seen by Reuters shows."
EU to order more Pfizer vaccine after declining earlier offer
The European Union will take up its option to buy up to 100 million more doses of Pfizer and BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine after turning down an opportunity in July for a much bigger deal, according to EU officials and an internal document.www.reuters.com
You might well be right. I remember reading this a while ago, posted the link for reference.
"At a meeting with EU diplomats in July, a Commission official said the EU had declined an offer of 500 million doses from Pfizer and BioNTech because it was too expensive, an internal EU document seen by Reuters shows."
EU to order more Pfizer vaccine after declining earlier offer
The European Union will take up its option to buy up to 100 million more doses of Pfizer and BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine after turning down an opportunity in July for a much bigger deal, according to EU officials and an internal document.www.reuters.com
I heard it mentioned on the BBC that Germany had privately made an order with Pfizer but couldn’t find confirmation. If so, it’s then a bit hypocritical to go asking the UK to forfeit some of its supply.
They need to release the terms of teh contract from teh non disclosure agreement
"Von der Leyen told Deutschlandfunk radio the best-effort delivery cause in the contract was only valid as long as it was not clear whether AstraZeneca could develop a vaccine.
She said the contract contained very clear delivery amounts for December and the first three quarters of 2021, and also mentioned four production sites, two of which are in Britain.
“There are binding orders and the contract is crystal clear,” she said."
I think Johnson should step up as world leaderThe whole thing is getting nastier and nastier. I think it is best that we just stay out of it for the moment, which I think Johnson is trying to do.
They need to release the terms of teh contract from teh non disclosure agreement
"Von der Leyen told Deutschlandfunk radio the best-effort delivery cause in the contract was only valid as long as it was not clear whether AstraZeneca could develop a vaccine.
She said the contract contained very clear delivery amounts for December and the first three quarters of 2021, and also mentioned four production sites, two of which are in Britain.
“There are binding orders and the contract is crystal clear,” she said."
Its funny how the EU keep telling AZ to show the contract. Almost like the EU cant find there's or they want AZ to be the ones to break the NDA.
The people I feel sorry for are the people living in the eastern bloc of the EU who even if the EU gets some supplies. Would more than likely not see the vaccine due to France, Germany trying to take as many as possible.
If he did that Nicola Sturgeon would start her own one but half an hour earlierI think Johnson should step up as world leader
For a vaccination summit. Completely blindside the eu and others.
Don’t change any of our current plans but look to manage this worldwide. I’m sure the billionaires would love to use (genuinely) their spare money to pay in to vaccinate the world in as effective manner as possible
If we have or if we get excess vaccines there's a massive PR opportunity here for the UK.
Indeed. Maybe we need to get a Hercules painted as a giant union flag for vaccine delivery's to the EU.
That makes no sense at all
It does if the contract guarantees the order. What the EU are saying is as soon as the Vaccine worked and was viable the contract became guaranteed.
Basically the EU state that the contract is only best endeavours whilst it was in development.
AZ can release the contract, the EU has said it's ok for them to do so.
it's redacted as AZ haven't waived their part of the ND clause
"Von der Leyen told Deutschlandfunk radio
there are 40 odd pages of contract on the EU site. the commercially sensitive bit is what's blacked out.
basically this will be an argument of what does best efforts mean
Its funny how the EU keep telling AZ to show the contract. Almost like the EU cant find there's or they want AZ to be the ones to break the NDA.
The people I feel sorry for are the people living in the eastern bloc of the EU who even if the EU gets some supplies. Would more than likely not see the vaccine due to France, Germany trying to take as many as possible.
I think Johnson should step up as world leader
For a vaccination summit. Completely blindside the eu and others.
Don’t change any of our current plans but look to manage this worldwide. I’m sure the billionaires would love to use (genuinely) their spare money to pay in to vaccinate the world in as effective manner as possible
They could call thier bluff and produce and use the Eu telling AZ to show the contract as proof they had waived the NDA.
Reading that contract as well it includes the UK factories in the EU supply chain?
It does say best reasonable efforts to manufacture at EU sites and that the vaccine may be supplied from non EU sites.
If that is correct the EU may have a point in the diversion of supplies from the UK. It's just AZ seem to have entered into a contract with the UK that doesn't allow that.
Have AZ agreed contracts with 2 entities that clash?
They have published it
Which would have been correct at the time but is obviously not correct now.
But if our contract is on similar terms we take precendence due to ordering first.
You can have a contract saying you're getting something delivered at a certain time but if there's a backlog of orders due to production/delivery problems you ain't getting it. Most you can do is possibly sue for compensation or ask for the contract to be voided (which they aren't going to do). You can't demand yours be delivered when others that have bought on the same T&C's before you are still waiting.
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