Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (5 Viewers)

[wingy]

I denounce the protest yesterday , like I've denounced all the protests during this pandemic.

It's utterly ridiculous

However I feel we are only 1 more lockdown off absolute carnage over here , which makes the protests even more annoying

Do you feel the vaçcine may not achieve its goal?

While I'm not against people making their points via marches/vigils/protests,and would naturally be more biased to some than others I think it's not surprising they've occured during a time such as this .

 

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[skybluetony176]

People really just need to hold their nerve for another few months, get their jabs when offered and that ought to be enough. I for one am desperate to get offered the vaccine so it’s infuriating seeing some in care homes still turn it down after 5 months

A lot of the people on this rally are also anti the vaccine. They’re part of the problem in every way and in no part part of the solution.

 

[Evo1883]

Do you feel the vaçcine may not achieve its goal?

While I'm not against people making their points via marches/vigils/protests,and would naturally be more biased to some than others I think it's not surprising they've occured during a time such as this .

I think the vaccine will be a huge success personally .. and the need for lockdown won't be there ..however you just never know do you

 

[wingy]

A lot of the people on this rally are also anti the vaccine. They’re part of the problem in every way and in no part part of the solution.

I would dearly love to know whether children will be offered to be vaccinated , or whether that would be taken up?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

A lot of the people on this rally are also anti the vaccine. They’re part of the problem in every way and in no part part of the solution.

They’re slagging the government for about the only good thing they’ve been involved in

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I would dearly love to know whether children will be offered to be vaccinated , or whether that would be taken up?

I think it makes more sense to ensure adults across the world get their doses first. Once we’ve double jabbed all over 18 here we should then focus on getting the world caught up

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I think it makes more sense to ensure adults across the world get their doses first. Once we’ve double jabbed all over 18 here we should then focus on getting the world caught up

Agreed. Especially as we don't seem overly disposed to controlling borders efficiently.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Agreed. Especially as we don't seem overly disposed to controlling borders efficiently.

It’s in all our interests to ensure places like Brazil and India aren’t written off as variant factories.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Fuck me just seen how bad it is in India

What the hell happened to kick it off that bad?

Decided economy was more important and it was under control enough to open up. Only a few weeks ago 50k people watched the cricket. When I watched that and given the population density my immediate thought was "it's going to get bad". But not to this extent as I thought the heat might help.

Just goes to show how quickly things can change and how we need to be vigilant. Only reason I think we can be a bit more open is the vaccination programme reducing deaths. Outside my local pub yesterday there were dozens of people crowded round the front seating area because it was in the sun. Loads of space around the rest of the outside of the pub but everyone packed into there.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Decided economy was more important and it was under control enough to open up. Only a few weeks ago 50k people watched the cricket. When I watched that and given the population density my immediate thought was "it's going to get bad". But not to this extent as I thought the heat might help.

Just goes to show how quickly things can change and how we need to be vigilant. Only reason I think we can be a bit more open is the vaccination programme reducing deaths. Outside my local pub yesterday there were dozens of people crowded round the front seating area because it was in the sun. Loads of space around the rest of the outside of the pub but everyone packed into there.

Yep need to be cautiously optimistic. Was gobsmacked India let 50000 into the cricket

 

[Saddlebrains]

"UK 'to hit herd immunity next week' as vaccines break the link between cases and deaths | The National" UK 'to hit herd immunity next week' as vaccines break the link between cases and deaths





Thoughts? Its a few weeks old like but hard to argue considering our numbers

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

"UK 'to hit herd immunity next week' as vaccines break the link between cases and deaths | The National" UK 'to hit herd immunity next week' as vaccines break the link between cases and deaths

Thoughts? Its a few weeks old like but hard to argue considering our numbers

I think when even Nicola Sturgeon is recognising how well the UK has executed the vaccination programme we're most probably doing something right. I would still say though that with a 1.5% chance of being hospitalised in the under 50s we aren't there yet. Close though.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

"UK 'to hit herd immunity next week' as vaccines break the link between cases and deaths | The National" UK 'to hit herd immunity next week' as vaccines break the link between cases and deaths





Thoughts? Its a few weeks old like but hard to argue considering our numbers

Yep it’s hard to argue I can’t believe 50% not a given for football by next season

 

[chiefdave]

"UK 'to hit herd immunity next week' as vaccines break the link between cases and deaths | The National" UK 'to hit herd immunity next week' as vaccines break the link between cases and deaths
Thoughts? Its a few weeks old like but hard to argue considering our numbers

Would be nice but other experts saying the claims of imminent herd immunity don’t stack up.

Experts dismiss UCL model claiming herd immunity is imminent for UK

Health secretary Matt Hancock resists calls to accelerate reopening of society following research published by University College London

www.independent.co.uk

 

[skybluetony176]

Realistically the proof will be in the pudding. Be at least 12 months before we understand when herd immunity can/has been reached.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I see there was another mentalist convention in London yesterday. Are they just not watching the scenes in India? There was some proper Qanon placards flying around.

I didn't realise Covid-19 could differentiate between mass gatherings depending on the causes they support or oppose.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Actions and words aligning perfectly

 

[Skybluefaz]

Actions and words aligning perfectly

Hard to believe that is a legit headline from the Mail. Absolutely going after Johnson.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Actions and words aligning perfectly

And yet despite that, this is also a headline article on their website.

ANGUS DALGLEISH: Now free us from this crazy dogma

PROFESSOR ANGUS DALGLEISH: Data not dates, the Prime Minister famously said when he announced our 'roadmap' out of lockdown. It turns out that there was no road out and no map.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Skybluefaz]

I didn't realise Covid-19 could differentiate between mass gatherings depending on the causes they support or oppose.

That clearly isn't the point.

 

[clint van damme]

Hard to believe that is a legit headline from the Mail. Absolutely going after Johnson.

Its almost as if the man working against him in the background has a wife who is a senior journalist on the paper!

 

[Skybluefaz]

Its almost as if the man working against him in the background has a wife who is a senior journalist on the paper!

Ah, Cummings wife is writing for them? I wasn't aware. The Mail will be dismissed as woke nonsense now. Or will it? Be interesting to see how this one plays out.

 

[skybluetony176]

I didn't realise Covid-19 could differentiate between mass gatherings depending on the causes they support or oppose.

Me neither. When was this announced?

 

[skybluetony176]

Ah, Cummings wife is writing for them? I wasn't aware. The Mail will be dismissed as woke nonsense now. Or will it? Be interesting to see how this one plays out.

Think he’s referring to Goves wife.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Think he’s referring to Goves wife.

Didn’t even know she was a journo. Fair enough, makes sense. Going to get pretty awkward in the Tory ranks.

 

[shmmeee]

I didn't realise Covid-19 could differentiate between mass gatherings depending on the causes they support or oppose.

Point isn’t the protest, point is they were protesting to say COVID isn’t harmful while tens of thousands die each day in India.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Thought the Johnson headline would be big news on LBC but Nick Ferrari is talking about vans being broken into.

 

[Ian1779]

It’s so obvious Gove is behind this. The irony is that Johnson supposed comment is exactly the kind of shite that Sarah Vine would peddle.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Point isn’t the protest, point is they were protesting to say COVID isn’t harmful while tens of thousands die each day in India.

That clearly isn't the point.

The fact is, no one should be out protesting when there is a worldwide pandemic.

It might be uncomfortable to hear, but some protests have received an 'allow it' status. It pisses me off because when I stick to the rules, others clearly haven't bothered. This particular protest I don't agree with either (just for the record).

 

[Macca1987]

On the India front, cricket was only the tip of the iceberg, the Indian president has allowed mass political rallies ready for elections, and there was a festival to do with bathing in the Mother Ganges that attracted masses, they're now up to approx 300 to 400 thousand new infections a day, would hate to think what this will end up relating to in deaths

 

[shmmeee]

The fact is, no one should be out protesting when there is a worldwide pandemic.

It might be uncomfortable to hear, but some protests have received an 'allow it' status. It pisses me off because when I stick to the rules, others clearly haven't bothered. This particular protest I don't agree with either (just for the record).

Eh, there’s no evidence any of the previous outdoor protests caused any increase in infections, and our case numbers are pretty low, I’m not massively bothered.

 

[chiefdave]

With yesterdays cup final being a test event what are they actually testing? The process of getting people in and out of grounds safely, not crowding around F&B outlets etc or just the raw numbers of infections that show up in the next couple of weeks from people who attended?

If they're testing rule compliance then there will definitely be some flags raised. A condition of entry was masks being worn at all times but every shot of the crowd was full of people with no masks or masks around their chins.

Hope that doesn't count against football and move us down the queue of things waiting to be given the green light.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

With yesterdays cup final being a test event what are they actually testing? The process of getting people in and out of grounds safely, not crowding around F&B outlets etc or just the raw numbers of infections that show up in the next couple of weeks from people who attended?

If they're testing rule compliance then there will definitely be some flags raised. A condition of entry was masks being worn at all times but every shot of the crowd was full of people with no masks or masks around their chins.

Hope that doesn't count against football and move us down the queue of things waiting to be given the green light.

I imagine they will now look to trace everyone’s subsequent infection status

 

[Skybluefaz]

The fact is, no one should be out protesting when there is a worldwide pandemic.

It might be uncomfortable to hear, but some protests have received an 'allow it' status. It pisses me off because when I stick to the rules, others clearly haven't bothered. This particular protest I don't agree with either (just for the record).

It is still a different point.

 

[clint van damme]

The fact is, no one should be out protesting when there is a worldwide pandemic.

It might be uncomfortable to hear, but some protests have received an 'allow it' status. It pisses me off because when I stick to the rules, others clearly haven't bothered. This particular protest I don't agree with either (just for the record).

Its not some protests its pretty much all of them, and that includes gatherings by football supporters like when we all went to Broadgate to celebrate.
The Sarah Everard vigil and the nurses protesting were the only one where they seemed to decide they were going to enforce the rules.
Some of those nurses have 10k fineshanging over them.