Brighton Sky Blue
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They’re slagging the government for about the only good thing they’ve been involved in
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They’re slagging the government for about the only good thing they’ve been involved in
Brighton Sky Blue
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I think it makes more sense to ensure adults across the world get their doses first. Once we’ve double jabbed all over 18 here we should then focus on getting the world caught up
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Agreed. Especially as we don't seem overly disposed to controlling borders efficiently.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s in all our interests to ensure places like Brazil and India aren’t written off as variant factories.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Decided economy was more important and it was under control enough to open up. Only a few weeks ago 50k people watched the cricket. When I watched that and given the population density my immediate thought was "it's going to get bad". But not to this extent as I thought the heat might help.
Just goes to show how quickly things can change and how we need to be vigilant. Only reason I think we can be a bit more open is the vaccination programme reducing deaths. Outside my local pub yesterday there were dozens of people crowded round the front seating area because it was in the sun. Loads of space around the rest of the outside of the pub but everyone packed into there.
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep need to be cautiously optimistic. Was gobsmacked India let 50000 into the cricket
Saddlebrains
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"UK 'to hit herd immunity next week' as vaccines break the link between cases and deaths | The National" UK 'to hit herd immunity next week' as vaccines break the link between cases and deaths
Thoughts? Its a few weeks old like but hard to argue considering our numbers
Thoughts? Its a few weeks old like but hard to argue considering our numbers
Brighton Sky Blue
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I think when even Nicola Sturgeon is recognising how well the UK has executed the vaccination programme we're most probably doing something right. I would still say though that with a 1.5% chance of being hospitalised in the under 50s we aren't there yet. Close though.
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep it’s hard to argue I can’t believe 50% not a given for football by next season
chiefdave
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Would be nice but other experts saying the claims of imminent herd immunity don’t stack up.
Experts dismiss UCL model claiming herd immunity is imminent for UK
Health secretary Matt Hancock resists calls to accelerate reopening of society following research published by University College London
www.independent.co.uk
skybluetony176
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Realistically the proof will be in the pudding. Be at least 12 months before we understand when herd immunity can/has been reached.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I didn't realise Covid-19 could differentiate between mass gatherings depending on the causes they support or oppose.
fernandopartridge
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Actions and words aligning perfectly
Skybluefaz
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Hard to believe that is a legit headline from the Mail. Absolutely going after Johnson.Actions and words aligning perfectly
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And yet despite that, this is also a headline article on their website.Actions and words aligning perfectly
ANGUS DALGLEISH: Now free us from this crazy dogma
PROFESSOR ANGUS DALGLEISH: Data not dates, the Prime Minister famously said when he announced our 'roadmap' out of lockdown. It turns out that there was no road out and no map.
Skybluefaz
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That clearly isn't the point.
clint van damme
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Its almost as if the man working against him in the background has a wife who is a senior journalist on the paper!
Skybluefaz
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Ah, Cummings wife is writing for them? I wasn't aware. The Mail will be dismissed as woke nonsense now. Or will it? Be interesting to see how this one plays out.
skybluetony176
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Me neither. When was this announced?
skybluetony176
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Think he’s referring to Goves wife.
Skybluefaz
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Didn’t even know she was a journo. Fair enough, makes sense. Going to get pretty awkward in the Tory ranks.
shmmeee
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Point isn’t the protest, point is they were protesting to say COVID isn’t harmful while tens of thousands die each day in India.
Skybluefaz
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Thought the Johnson headline would be big news on LBC but Nick Ferrari is talking about vans being broken into.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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The fact is, no one should be out protesting when there is a worldwide pandemic.
It might be uncomfortable to hear, but some protests have received an 'allow it' status. It pisses me off because when I stick to the rules, others clearly haven't bothered. This particular protest I don't agree with either (just for the record).
On the India front, cricket was only the tip of the iceberg, the Indian president has allowed mass political rallies ready for elections, and there was a festival to do with bathing in the Mother Ganges that attracted masses, they're now up to approx 300 to 400 thousand new infections a day, would hate to think what this will end up relating to in deaths
shmmeee
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Eh, there’s no evidence any of the previous outdoor protests caused any increase in infections, and our case numbers are pretty low, I’m not massively bothered.
chiefdave
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With yesterdays cup final being a test event what are they actually testing? The process of getting people in and out of grounds safely, not crowding around F&B outlets etc or just the raw numbers of infections that show up in the next couple of weeks from people who attended?
If they're testing rule compliance then there will definitely be some flags raised. A condition of entry was masks being worn at all times but every shot of the crowd was full of people with no masks or masks around their chins.
Hope that doesn't count against football and move us down the queue of things waiting to be given the green light.
If they're testing rule compliance then there will definitely be some flags raised. A condition of entry was masks being worn at all times but every shot of the crowd was full of people with no masks or masks around their chins.
Hope that doesn't count against football and move us down the queue of things waiting to be given the green light.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I imagine they will now look to trace everyone’s subsequent infection status
Skybluefaz
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It is still a different point.
clint van damme
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Its not some protests its pretty much all of them, and that includes gatherings by football supporters like when we all went to Broadgate to celebrate.
The Sarah Everard vigil and the nurses protesting were the only one where they seemed to decide they were going to enforce the rules.
Some of those nurses have 10k fineshanging over them.
chiefdave
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There is, or at least was at one point, an exemption for protests in the rules. However the protests are supposed to be organised and enforce social distancing & mask wearing which a lot have attempted, to varying degrees of success.
At the risk of opening a can of worms this was a very different thing with zero social distancing or mask wearing. There's even footage online of protesters trying to rip masks off people wearing them.
What I can't get my head around is the police response. Whatever you think of things like BLM or the Sarah Everard vigil the police response was very different to what was seen here. Footage online of the police being attacked by protesters and running away being chased yet the Met puts out a tweet saying 'thank you to everyone', very bizarre.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Agree with most of the points both of you make.
There have been different approaches and different acceptance levels for different protests. Some from the establishment and police, others from the public.
I couldn't really give a fuck what the protest is about to be honest. There is a pandemic. Should be zero tolerance on everything in my opinion. After that, sure, do your protest as long as it is peaceful.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Yep. The coup is on.
David O'Day
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yeah they are to test show large scale sporting events can effect the spread of the virus.